Colombia Is...it's

la campiña says on Apr 15, 2008, 23:21:

well chibchombiano continue your life in uruguay and I'll continue my life here in a beautiful country.

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Lowell says on Apr 16, 2008, 06:37:

Yep, PBH has become the pits.

Alfred E. Newman. "What. Me Worry?"

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vicshere says on Apr 16, 2008, 08:33:

the pits you mean pure hell

listo

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CatGirl says on Apr 16, 2008, 13:55:

I have found there are some posters that present as if they know all about Colombia, visit Colombia often (not!) or are actually living IN Colombia and post on this board from Colombia (pleeze!).

Per the CIA fact book (yes they are numbers, but better than a sharp stick in the eye): The population of Colombia is over 45,000, 000. So what would it take for PBH to be a small sample size example of that? and with so many subcultures and sub-sub-cultures..hmmm?

I am sorry El Torcido....I am going to derail from your post a bit (hope you are Ok with this my dear), as Kitty was curious and looked up the numbers BECAUSE I keep seeing posts
about how many women there are per men in Colombia, as if the ratio is so much higher than men. Sounds like a smorgasborg or a Morman fantasy gone wild. A free for all....So come on down and find yourself a wife, we got lots to choose from! They all treat you like a King and wait on you hand and foot, no matter how bad your attitude, nasty you look and smell. ....OK ....I am not "beating up" these posters, only challenging the actual truth and perception. Too much like a sales pitch - so I looked and compared Colombia with the USA. Please keep in mind I did not collect or analyze this data so I am not endorsing it....only food for thought in regards to what you actually get on PBH.?

1) Average mean age in
Colombia 26.8 years
US 36.7 years
10 years!
These numbers do support the accuracy of the information given to me regarding what is considered "old" in Colombia is still Young and kicking in the US. Infact, a Colombiano/a over 30 (considered getting old) might benefit from moving North to get the respect they deserve ;)

2) Male/Female ratios ages 15-64
Colombia .95male/1female
USA 1male/1female

Ok so, after looking

World average.... 1.02male/1female

Ok - so - why do you think there are so many reports that the streets of Colombia are swarming with women? Double vision? Personal Agendas? Are these posts reflections of the REAL Colombia? Seen through a Colombiano/as eyes? What do you think?

Kitty is curious ...Purrr

Love and Time: the only two things that cannot be bought, but only spent

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el torcido says on Apr 16, 2008, 14:26:

Now, more than ever. Confusado. I've seen many cats on this site, but sounds more like it's full of pit bulls,... not the pits. What's with the Sleep Drug ads right in the middle of the OP's post?

don't know much about phlebotomy

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CatGirl says on Apr 16, 2008, 16:32:

El Torc. Arrepentido....no offense intended. No preoccupacion.....kitty was feeling frisky after her brief sabbatical from PBH. Only tired of the misinformation on the board that comes in clusters at times.

Sleep Drug? Now I am confused ;).

Ok - I'll be good (for now, jeje)

Love and Time: the only two things that cannot be bought, but only spent

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Robert Jorge says on Apr 16, 2008, 17:56:

sorry

BEWARE of gold diggers.

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Catfish35 says on Apr 16, 2008, 21:28:

It was sunny in Sun Valley, Idaho today.....

"So many guns, and so few brains". sam spade

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Apr 16, 2008, 21:54:

Welocme back, CatGirl:)

Yes, double vision. I've presented those demographic statistics on Colombia's male/female ratio before, but our members here believe that they are wrong. Some guys here believe firmly that he official Colombian male/female ratio is 1 cheating, short, ugly, poor, ignorant Colombian man to 10 hot, tall, sexy, smart, warm, personable, faithful, honest, hard-working, god-fearing, man-adoring, virginal pre-pago grilla on her first assignment.

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Apr 17, 2008, 01:49:

jijij Desi

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goin_south says on Apr 17, 2008, 05:16:

that's right torcido.. Colombia is a Palatable Mystery!
that's the fun.

Where do we go from here?

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lpdiver says on Apr 18, 2008, 03:45:

Desi...I would say it is more like one in eight.

Seriously, there is a broad range of what can be found. Depending on where you look and what you are looking for. Personally, I don't find Colombia has anymore beautiful women than the rest of the world. However, I don't haunt the discos and touristy areas.

I do find some truth in the infidelity generalization that have been made; especially in the lower strata populations. The other side of that coin is that all those men that are running around have to be doing so with someone.

From my personal experiences you can find what ever you want in Colombia. I am happy with my find; but, I took it slow (2 1/2 years) and approached with open eyes. By taking that long it eleiminated the green card seekers (I hope!).

As to the OP's statement about the PBH barrio...you can find what you are looking for here as well.

t

"cook some rice!"

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aztec says on Apr 18, 2008, 04:24:

Welcome back CatGirl. We missed you. Were you on an extended vacation?

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goin_south says on Apr 18, 2008, 05:46:

Extended......milkbath.jaj

Where do we go from here?

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Rikito says on Apr 18, 2008, 06:36:

Then why do you bother to be here? If you are a Colombian as you indicate then why are you in Uruguay? Don’t give me, "there are no jobs in Colombia" excuse because that is BS.

People in here say what they feel because of the honest passion that Colombians naturally have. They feel they have a certain freedom of expression just like the people of Uruguay have.

It is not life that matters, but the journey.

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CatGirl says on Apr 18, 2008, 11:57:

Desi - thanks ;) I strongly agree with your comment BTW jajaja

Aztec & GS - Thanks for the welcome. I like my milk bath "hot" BTW

Love and Time: the only two things that cannot be bought, but only spent

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Apr 18, 2008, 12:13:

I'm not going to make any friends with this but the truth is that I don't think Colombian women are any more beautiful than any other women, in any given country. Colombian women consider beauty such an important asset that they are raised up from the very first to think of themselves as being beautiful, to make themselves beautiful and pleasing to the male eye, but honestly, there are surely as many homely girls in Colombia as there are in Sweden or Ireland or the Philippines. With notable exceptions, the tropical hothouse flowers also wilt early and require high maintenance in their mature years in form of beauty treatments and surgery to conserve their physical beauty.

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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MitchAlvarez says on Apr 18, 2008, 12:14:

blah blah blah... viva colombia hp.

cat girl you were surely missed. :)

"Ingrid callate la jeta!! Stay in France"

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goin_south says on Apr 18, 2008, 12:26:

Desi: "I'm not going to make any friends with this"

Let's then REFRASE THE CASE, Desi... I think most of the guys who post here are of the opinion that... THE 'beautiful' Colombian ladies are ... PREFERRABLE, TO OUR TASTE... than are the 'beautiful women of Burma, China, Nigeria, Russia, and so on.... where ever. Although that Korean Chic I posted in the basement HAD ME LOOKING STRONGLY TO THE WEST... SECOND-GUESSIN MYSELF.

There's a few other differences, that I won't mention here. (The answers fall into the category of the "20 Questions" from the Basement)... ja

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Catgirl, you like 'hot milk baths'????
Good, we'll not forget to throw in a bunch of HABANEROS the next session... jajjaajajjahabaneros....

Where do we go from here?

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Apr 18, 2008, 12:40:

I think our preferences are strongly influenced by almost random encounters we have had with the opposite sex. There's nothing objective about them. They're just personal preferences. Say, for example myself; I have never had any interest in the tall, blue-eyed, muscular, easy going Vikings; I think of them as brothers, neighbours, classmates. However, the Colombian girls that stray this far north will not date another Colombian man in their lives after laying eyes on one of these blond boys up here....

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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lpdiver says on Apr 18, 2008, 12:43:

Hmmmm perk...where exactly are you? Being tall and blonde myself!


t

t

"cook some rice!"

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Alma del Norte says on Apr 18, 2008, 12:46:

Beauty comes from within. No joke.

La vida es una rutina

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Apr 18, 2008, 12:52:

So, Alma, would you say that Colombian women are more beautiful...inside?

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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slguy says on Apr 18, 2008, 13:05:

D&D ( desi and duck) are both correct.

there're plenty of homely colombianas.

but drop me on any colombian street, and within 10-15 minutes i'll have a spotted a woman who is (to my tastes!) beautiful.

drop me in manilla or tibet? not so much.

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

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Saltador says on Apr 18, 2008, 13:07:

Sorry to disagree with the premise here, but I can't help myself. In my opinion, and the opinion of many other American men, there are much better looking women per capita in Colombia than the USA. Sorry, it may seem like a generalization, but to me it's an indisputable fact. It may be partially because of the "presentation" (nobody wraps the present better than a colombiana).
Sorry, just my sexist opinion. And I have been to Colombia enough to know.

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CatGirl says on Apr 18, 2008, 13:19:

Mitch: Gracias Amor....nice pic BTW ;)

Desi: I think there are women that are raised to believe the only attribute they have are their looks...in all countries. Whether it is more common for Colombianas I dunno. I know a few Colombianos like that BTW, jaja.. If you have ever been to the Los Angeles EEUU area, many women there are similar to what you just described, an accepted subculture. So many women want to be "discovered". Interesting discussions with these types of gals can be limited...yawn...... or even worse - problematic. Hey, some guys like the shallow gorgeous type and some guys have low self esteem and prefer abusive and demanding beautiful women. Desi - I do agree- Over the years it comes out in the wash and eventually looks fade and if you are ugly inside, good luck.

GS - Did Desi hit a sensitivity? Never seen you react that way? Hmmm also never knew you were PBH spokesman for the romantic interests of other male PBHers? You Ok Amigo?

Alma - Yes, beauty does come from within ;).

Love and Time: the only two things that cannot be bought, but only spent

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Alma del Norte says on Apr 18, 2008, 13:22:

DESI: "So, Alma, would you say that Colombian women are more beautiful...inside?"

Yes Desi, I do think that is by and large, true. God forbid I should contradict one of Rubito's earlier posts, (not worth the earache), but I'm not exclusively, (even), here for the women, but it's a perk. A smile goes a long, long way.

La vida es una rutina

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CatGirl says on Apr 18, 2008, 13:28:

Saltador: Clarification on my part .. .....my comment above on the ratios? Not meant to indicate or insinuate beauty. Only commenting on the posts I see of comments of visits to Colombia and "wow" there are Sooo many women to choose from....jajaja.

I also don't think your comment is at all sexist, we all have our preferences. I'll respect yours, if you respect mine ;)) - Purrr

Love and Time: the only two things that cannot be bought, but only spent

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nueva york bombero says on Apr 18, 2008, 13:35:

Cat girl, you're on to something.....the quantity of women seems outrageous!
It seems as though it's 6 to 1 chicas to hombres.
I don't know if it's an illusion, but if it's true, competition for a good mate might be raising
the bar. This making any sense???

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slguy says on Apr 18, 2008, 13:36:

yea, yea, yea. beauty's only skin deep. when's the last time you guys saying that crapola said to yourselves "now there's a really homely guy/gal - I think I'll die if I don't go strike up a conversatiion!"? ;)

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

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MaFe says on Apr 18, 2008, 13:40:

Desideria says on Friday April 18th, 2008 12:13:

I'm not going to make any friends with this but the truth is that I don't think Colombian women are any more beautiful than any other women, in any given country. Colombian women consider beauty such an important asset that they are raised up from the very first to think of themselves as being beautiful, to make themselves beautiful and pleasing to the male eye, but honestly, there are surely as many homely girls in Colombia as there are in Sweden or Ireland or the Philippines. With notable exceptions, the tropical hothouse flowers also wilt early and require high maintenance in their mature years in form of beauty treatments and surgery to conserve their physical beauty.


Desi and Lpdiver...I will make enemies too because I agree 100%!
I think every country has it's share of beautifula nd not so beautiful people..
I do think Colombianas are prettier then some other Latino countries, but there is so much beauty everywhere...

and I am so opposed to the plastic surgery!
Anyone can look great with plastic surgery, put some fake boobs, fake butt, lipo, rib bla bla...that's not beauty...

Beauty is women who are 100% natural...nada falso!

"All human actions have one or more of these seven causes: chance, nature, compulsions, habit, reason, passion, desire. "-Aristotle

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Apr 18, 2008, 13:41:

I've stared at he picture of my daughter and her Caleña cousin at their fifteen-year-old -party in Cali and never there was two cousins who look less like each other. Both are pretty, I suppose, in the bloom of their youth. I wish I had the picture scanned to show you the difference between two cousins, a Scandinavian-raised and a Cali raised, in body language. It's like night and day. The Caleña cousin looks at the camera with a lowered head, posing, looking sexy and sultry. She's wearing a low-cut, skimpy top, plenty of eye make up and looks older than her years. The Swedish cousin is as blonde and blue-eyed as her cousinis dark and black-eyed. She looks at the camera with hear head tilted slightly upwards, with a happy, open smile on her face, showing a row of good, white teeth. She's wearing a button-up shirt and almost no make up. She looks younger than what she really is.

What I'm trying to say that ...I don't even know what I'm trying to say. Both girls are young and lovely. In a very different ways. My daughter sropped the traffic on the streets of Cali at fifteen; her cousin would have broken plenty of hearts if she had ever come here.

I see a much greater average of traditionally beautiful girls per square meter in downtown Stockholm than in Bogotá or Medellin or Cali. Girs walking tall and slim, careless, laughing, long shiny hair, chiselled features, long legs up to heaven, perfect teeth.

Oh well, I don't know about the North American women, I think weight might be an issue to many (my brother from Utah reports "oh yeah, there are some BIG GIRLS up here...); unfortunately the traditionally sporty and slim Scandinavians have been putting on some extra pounds (kilos) lately too...they ought to prohibit all those Mc Donalds and Burger Kings here.

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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lpdiver says on Apr 18, 2008, 13:44:

I have seen just as many overweight ( altohough not to the extreme) women in Colombia as anywhere. Of course they won't be at the discos. But look around you on the street next time you are in El Centro.

t

"cook some rice!"

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nueva york bombero says on Apr 18, 2008, 13:46:

This is getting a little controversial.....I like it!
So, Desi, North american girls are fat slobs?? lol

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CatGirl says on Apr 18, 2008, 13:55:

You guys are cracking me up now, jajaja. Hey - we are all "wired" differently. Of course chemistry and attraction are important. Personally speaking, "drop down gorgeous hunks" with horrific personalities, completly inept, problematic in everyway - yuk.

NYB - "make sense", jajajajajajaja - got it

Love and Time: the only two things that cannot be bought, but only spent

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Apr 18, 2008, 13:57:

I haven't been in the States for many years, at least four or five. I've been watching some TV shows with lots of overweight people in them, not just a little overweight but very much overweight. Perhaps that's not at all representative of how the streets of any major city in USA look like. My gringa friends are NOT overweight and I believe that the average of good-looking gringa girls would be just about the same as for the rest of the western world, the UK, France, Germany etc.

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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nueva york bombero says on Apr 18, 2008, 14:02:

I know in the mid-west, there are quite a lot of overweight girls as there are everywhere.
Here in NY, as soon as you leave the city and go outwards 40 or 50 miles, they get bigger and bigger!!! Sorry, but it's true!

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CatGirl says on Apr 18, 2008, 14:04:

Obesity is becoming a world wide epidemic. Period.

Love and Time: the only two things that cannot be bought, but only spent

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nueva york bombero says on Apr 18, 2008, 14:06:

True.
I work with a guy who is thin like me. Eats and drinks anything without gaining a pound.
Where we differ is he has a "thing" for heavy girls....
Needless to say, there's some abuse flying around!!!

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Apr 18, 2008, 14:30:

MaFe, I'm glad you didn't take my opinion as an offense.
I believe Colombian, Latin American women in general are raised to think that vanity is a virtue, while North European women think it is just silly and superficial. Colombian have something in common with Russian. East European and Thai girls; I believe it's because these are male-dominated societies and women are raised to cater to male needs. Don't take me wrong onthis issue; I'm no hard-core femisnist; I believe in loving and sharing and taking care of each other is important, but some things for us women inthe north have been self-evident now for the longest time one of them being that we don't need depend on on our looks to survive here in this world.

I have plenty of female Colombian friends and we discuss these issues often when we get together. I think it's a shame my Caleña sister-in-law has to wear something I consider evening or party make- up to work every day, because her bosses demand that she, at her age of early fifties, must look youthful and "representative". This emphasis on looks is something that I find really bothering in Colombia. Every time I'm there people celebrate my "whiteness" , my good skin, my "youthful" looks like it was some kind of trophy of war and not just a product of my good genes.

Alma, thank you for your answer. I think you have found a special person in your life with that beauty within and you base your opinion on your personal experience. Don't we all. I just happen to think that Colombians are not more beautiful inside either than the average. They have more courage, though.

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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CatGirl says on Apr 18, 2008, 14:32:

NYB; OK, OK....you gotta point (in a way). There are some guys out there that prefer BIG Gals in a really BIG way, jejej

ON the FLIP SIDE - Not too any gals out there have a fetish for pot bellied men, jejeje (gag)

Love and Time: the only two things that cannot be bought, but only spent

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nueva york bombero says on Apr 18, 2008, 14:48:

No? The beer gut with 5 chins doesn't do it for you, huh?

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nueva york bombero says on Apr 18, 2008, 14:49:

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MitchAlvarez says on Apr 18, 2008, 15:13:

there is a reason why some guys dont mind heavy set women?

ask most guys they will tell you why....

i actually dont follow that rule and actually havent even tried being with a fat girl. chill!!

"Ingrid callate la jeta!! Stay in France"

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CatGirl says on Apr 18, 2008, 16:23:

I'm not into those Simpson's bellies, but I do like my man with some meat on him, jjeje
I prefer a man with little padding holding me, than a bunch o' bones....wirey is ok too.
But if when looking down he can't see his manlihood....turn off (at least for me.)

I'm starting to get carried away here, I'd better stop.jeje

Love and Time: the only two things that cannot be bought, but only spent

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Apr 18, 2008, 16:27:

LOL catgirl...that just made me remember some very old joke about texas longhorns...

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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nueva york bombero says on Apr 18, 2008, 16:29:

No, this is good! I'm learning all about the mysterious Feline Queen!!
You threw that "wirey" crap in there to make me feel better didn't you?
It's a nice way of saying Flaco!!!!

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durito says on Apr 18, 2008, 16:43:

Much like with everything, people tend to exagerate based on personal experience.

There are beautiful women in every country in the world (and beautiful can mean many things from physical to internal,etc)

I think a lot of it is finding people that are different from what you see at home.

Scandinavian women have a reputation for being amongst the most beautiful in the world. I went to spanish school in Guatemala for 3 months a few years ago, and my school had some contact in Denmark that sent a ton of danish people to study there. They were mostly 20 somethings, doing a gap year or whatever. A lot of very pretty girls, but nothing I'd consider unusual. Going anywhere, you'd see Guatemalan guys falling themselves to talk to all of them/ask them to dance, whatever.

Around town everyday here in Colombia I see tons of beautiful women -- i think it's more so than in the US, but I really couldn't say. It's a different lifestyle. Whereas here I walk around all day, and run into/meet people, etc -- at home I was either in the office or in my car going home. I'm sure there were lots of pretty women driving along the highway, but it's pretty hard to notice them in those conditions.

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nueva york bombero says on Apr 18, 2008, 16:55:

I think it's beyond coincidence that there happens to be more beautiful women in Colombia per capita than anywhere else. It's not just me!!!

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billyb says on Apr 18, 2008, 17:13:

La colombiana Martha Lucía Ortiz fue la ganadora del concurso Señora Belleza Internacional


Foto: Archivo particular

http://www.eltiempo.com/vidadehoy/18deabrilde2008/ARTICULO-WEB-NOTA_IN...

Martha Lucía triunfó en República Dominicana. Fue virreina el año pasado en Señora Colombia 2007, lo que le permitió representar a Colombia en el certamen, que se realizó del 4 al 9 de marzo en República Dominicana.

Si el Concurso Nacional de Belleza en Cartagena permitiera ser madre, tener 39 años, y haber desfilado prendas de ropa íntima, seguramente, Martha Lucía Ortiz podría representar al Tolima sin ningún problema.

Tiene 92 de busto, 62 de cintura y 93 de cadera; pesa 52 kilos; mide 1.72 metros y una figura bastante tonificada.

Lo curioso es que esta ibaguereña ya no la trasnocha el sueño de participar en un reinado de belleza. Lo hizo el año pasado en Señora Colombia 2007, en el que quedó como virreina.

Gracias a este galardón representó a Colombia en el festival Señora Belleza Milenio Internacional 2008, en República Dominicana.

En el evento, que se realizó del 4 al 9 de marzo, alcanzó el primer puesto en la categoría Milenium de los 30 a 40 años. "Este concurso es más bonito que un reinado normal, porque no todas las señoras se atreven a desfilar en vestidos de baño. Si es difícil para las jovencitas para una señora lo es más. Eso lo hace más meritorio", explica.

Adicional al cetro y la corona, Martha Lucía obtuvo el primer lugar entre 68 candidatas de todo el mundo en las categorías de mejor modelo y mejor amiga.

Sin secretos de belleza

La Señora Milenio cuenta que nunca ha tenido secretos de belleza y menos ha sido una aficionada al ejercicio. Por el contrario, afirma que todo es un privilegio de la vida, gracias a que es una mujer de constitución delgada.

"Cada edad de la vida tiene su encanto. Lo importante es que uno se sienta bien y orgullosa de sus añitos", sostiene. Por eso, no le incomoda decir: "Llevo 18 años de casada, tengo dos hijos (uno de 17 y otro de 11) y quiero seguir trabajando".

Y es que su única profesión no es el hogar. También desfila y comparte pasarela con modelos más jóvenes. "Ellas me apoyan, además me motivan. Yo las molesto porque me siento como la mamá de todas. Igual cuando modelo no tengo problema en desfilar vestidos de baño o ropa íntima", insiste.

De hecho, confiesa que cuando sale a pasarela lo hace con un objetivo: "Busco resaltar que las mujeres de mi edad se sientan orgullosas. Se dice que por tener esta edad se nos acabó la vida y es todo lo contrario", dice.

Por ahora, y mientras sigue con su campaña de elevar la confianza y la dignidad de las señoras mayores, estudia la propuesta de participar en otro certamen internacional.

"Hay un concurso de belleza en los �?ngeles, pero es que mi prioridad no es el modelaje. Además, tengo que retomar las riendas de mi hogar", concluye.

MANUEL RINCÓN PRADA
CULTURA Y ENTRETENIMIENTO

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el torcido says on Apr 18, 2008, 17:13:

Well.. someWhere it is written, that Cali has the World's Nost Beautiful Women. How could they be wrong? Now, this desideriata character is really opinionated. about women, to say she is one. obestity and beaeuty. I can tell you as much, there's more greatre ratio of big, black, fat girls in the south usa than anything anywhere too much popeye's fried chicken and that is not racism. None of em move very fast. They're past fat. they're past obese. it's epidemic proportionism

don't know much about phlebotomy

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billyb says on Apr 18, 2008, 17:23:

I have to disagree with Desi, while scandinavian broads can be pretty hot when young, that pasty skin tends to age pretty quickly.

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adrimm says on Apr 18, 2008, 18:00:

Actually I'd say skin stays better preserved in more Northern places.. and I chalk it up to weaker sunlight.

Those of us living at high latitudes get the sun in a much more diffuse way since we get it at an oblique angle and it has to travel further through the atmosphere. After 60 degrees North, we get 60% of the sun that Colombia would recieve. and it is almost 10% less sun for every 10 degrees North you go.

For example at 68 my mother has far better skin than most of her classmates from university (even those who have had "work done), but then she has spent 40 years living away from direct sun.

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Lisa Zee says on Apr 18, 2008, 19:58:

I have not read the whole post but I say: we Colombians, take good care of our bodies, ( I try), we are proud and we take care of ourselves. Most woman my age are very large, here and in Europe, I am not petite, but I am not large! and I work on it.

Women in Colombia had been notorious for being beautiful, even before all this plastic surgery epidemic.

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el torcido says on Apr 18, 2008, 20:18:

and it is almost 10% less FUN for every 10 degrees North you go.
"Most women your age"... are large where? .be more specific, LZ

don't know much about phlebotomy

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goin_south says on Apr 18, 2008, 20:25:

si, torcido; 0 fun en la antarctica.
even if you're a polarbear, you can't find food... thanks to Al Gore's Global Warming Program.. jaj

Where do we go from here?

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BillBigD says on Apr 18, 2008, 20:34:

Saltador-I agree with you. Alot of pretty women in CLO and MDE. Not so much in BOG. IMO

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goin_south says on Apr 18, 2008, 20:57:

you musta kept yer eyes closed (in Bogota!), or.... you neva been there. IMHO.

Where do we go from here?

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Lisa Zee says on Apr 18, 2008, 21:25:

el torcido: las mujeres en Europa y USA som muy gordas,cuando pasan de los 30, 40 anos se engordan muy feo, en Colombia casi no.

Large= gordas.

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la campiña says on Apr 18, 2008, 22:34:

I love my pool when it chucks it down with rain around midnight the water is tepid and when your friends offer a home made burger and a tequila what more is there to want, distant thunder, warm rain , late night froliks, following day memories, you realy have to be here to get my reason and its just not weekends its any day you want, ok I sound like a roman emperor, am I not, please where are the grapes, I,m so tired of going to bed with virgen nubiles and my bronze tan is even irritating me .. vino clima por va.............

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Apr 19, 2008, 00:52:

Billy why do you put your food in the fridge? So that it would age rapidly?

Low temps actually slow down aging process...didn't we all know that?
Healthy diets, not much junk food, exercise, not too much sunlight together with low temps keep skin young and fresh foor a long time.

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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Robert Jorge says on Apr 19, 2008, 00:53:

So Eskimos should be physically the hottest people on Earth.

BEWARE of gold diggers.

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Robert Jorge says on Apr 19, 2008, 00:55:

(Just for the record, that ain't a put-down towards native Americans) There are plenty of hot native Americans. But I have never seen a hot Eskimo.

BEWARE of gold diggers.

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Robert Jorge says on Apr 19, 2008, 00:56:

But, the chicks in Iceland ...... OK, Desi is on to something.

BEWARE of gold diggers.

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goin_south says on Apr 19, 2008, 01:19:

un Desi Quote: ...""not too much sunlight together with low temps keep skin young and fresh""
.. she doesn't get it: we like darker skin (it's plenty moist, in Colombia), darker a_e_l_s.....

""Low temps actually slow down aging process...didn't we all know that?""
b.s...b.s... b.s...... there are so many other factors influencing the 'aging process'.... genes, nutrition, exercise,

Now, some of the skin doc's are even admitting, the myth of 'too much sun'... jaja
They are mostly full of sh_t! the docs... for what they are or have been saying... their truth changes, from one year to the next. Live by principle. Principles don't change.

Low temps, plus.... malnutrition, no exercise, and bad genes = ... ... .... ?????

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billyb says on Apr 19, 2008, 01:23:

Iclandic chicks are some of the hottest. The way i heard it explained, was that when Eric the Red (desi, was that the one?) set out for Iceland, the king of Denmark authorized all the men who volunteered to go with him to choose any single woman the wanted to bring with them on the expedition, so naturally they chose the finest ones and, well, in an isolated society like that, them good genes just kept regenerating. BTW, good theory Desi, from now on I am lowering the temp when I have the fairer sex over to the humble abode.

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goin_south says on Apr 19, 2008, 01:25:

new thread, p.f.....HOT ICELANDIC CHIQUITAs !

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goin_south says on Apr 19, 2008, 01:26:

BETTER KNOWN AS: www.meltyourigloo.com
jaj

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Apr 19, 2008, 02:59:

Billy lowering the temp would have health benefits even for yourself. Ask any doctor about it; they all recommend keeping inside temps at no higher than 65F to strengthen your immunity system, the mucous membranes in your nose and throat, your respiratory system etc.

Icelandic girls are only different from Swedish or Norwegian girls in the way that there has been a small genetic pool to breed upon due to their isolation and they have preserved the original Viking looks longer. People in Scandinavian countries are a little bit more mixed; there are some Swedish girls with black hair (a Swedish king imported a Vallone community from Belgium to teach the Swedes about mining and smitheries back in 17 hundreds) and now there has been political and war refugees settling in Sweden changing the traditional city street scene forever, but it's mostly in the bigger cities. Out in the bush is just as white and blond, leggy and tall as it has always been.

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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goin_south says on Apr 19, 2008, 07:23:

and then .... la humididad?
some need more dry, others.....
and, has been said, ..... how much water/nurturing fluids you drink....
okay, Torcido... where's the Affinitive Book on Skin Care?

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Apr 19, 2008, 12:48:

"this desideriata character is really opinionated. about women, to say she is one"
(el torcido)
Yeah, twisted one, but i's Desideria, you make my handle sound like an Italian operetta.

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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nueva york bombero says on Apr 19, 2008, 15:33:

Torcido is someone's alter ego on here!
Multiple personality complex is in effect!!
But who's the schizo??

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Apr 19, 2008, 15:53:

You're right NYB...it's stinking of a bayou rat...or perhaps of a 'possum.

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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nueva york bombero says on Apr 19, 2008, 16:02:

Possum would be a complement for this guy.
He's warped whoever he/she/it is....

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billyb says on Apr 19, 2008, 17:05:

bayou rat? jaja, that would make him el patito.

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goin_south says on Apr 19, 2008, 19:30:

Jackie Gleason had multiple personalities, but....
I'm not Jackie Gleason.

And, since everyone has hi_jacked torcido's thread here anyway... Let me take it around another corner.
I just ran into an acquaintance/client I have not seen for about a year so,
at the Wing-Stop Restaurant. We started talkin..
he just got back from China, for a month, but is latino by heritage.
(If you're lucky, billyb.. I might take you to this particular wing restaurante..)
Anyway, after a long 'internationally oriented' conversation
about the virtues of so much of the rest of the world,
apart from the USA, of course,
much discussion about the fact that he probably
ought to brush up on his spanish...
he's goin to Colombia next year... and I gave him this website
HE'D LIKE TO LOG ON AND PARTICIPATE....... BUT.....
.........BUT....
..
..
...
BUT.... ISN'T IT ABOUT TIME, TO OPEN THE FORUM UP TO NEW MEMBERS???

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goin_south says on Apr 19, 2008, 22:36:

ISN'T IT ABOUT TIME, TO OPEN THE FORUM UP TO NEW MEMBERS???

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lpdiver says on Apr 20, 2008, 03:38:

Hmm... a bayou rat. That would be a nutria. Which were imported to Louisiana from South America. A home coming perhaps?

t

"cook some rice!"

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Apr 20, 2008, 03:40:

I'm not calling anybody names here....but there's a wet trail this torcido creature is leaving behind him(?) and it leads to the bayou country :))). A duck? no, I don't think so....or?

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Apr 20, 2008, 06:04:

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Apr 20, 2008, 06:05:

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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lpdiver says on Apr 20, 2008, 06:10:

I am an official member of the polar bear club. However, I will continue with my hot showers.

t

"cook some rice!"

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slguy says on Apr 20, 2008, 06:30:

once i thought about Polar Bear Club membership, after having spent the afternoon emptying a bottle of rum.

a certain part of my anatomy promised me a lengthy absence, if i didn't come to my senses and forget that silliness.

in a rare flash of rationality, i listened, thank God.

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

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lpdiver says on Apr 20, 2008, 07:00:

Yeah slguy...those two knots over my eyebrows formally know as testicles DID take a while to descent to their proper locale. jejeje

t

"cook some rice!"

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goin_south says on Apr 20, 2008, 08:16:

Nutria?



Colombians, just like the Cajuns, I'm certain would be finding a way to make a delicacy of that thing.... did someone say 'Spanish Moss'? What about Spanish Lake? crawfish?

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goin_south says on Apr 20, 2008, 08:23:

Where do we go from here?

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nueva york bombero says on Apr 20, 2008, 12:54:

Now that's the life for me.... Fuck Colombia....
I'm retiring in the swamp!!!! yeah!
Big South American rat for breakfast, lunch and dinner!

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CatGirl says on Apr 20, 2008, 14:47:

I step away for un momento - leche caliente...and look at the thread - LOL

NYB "You threw that "wirey" crap in there to make me feel better didn't you?
It's a nice way of saying Flaco!!!!"

No, to me this means thin but "some" muscle - no flaco for me... Again, I prefer some padding on my man - just not too much, jejeje Wirey is good to, but wirey can have padding, espicially after I cook for him :)

Desi and BB's comments about Scandnavian women, age. skin etc.... Well just so ya know BB, my mother has only one grey hair on her head and looks about mid 50 and she's in her 70's.....baby butt soft skin. People are amazed, especially since she never really took great care back in the day ;) People comment on how great she looks all the time and about our genes. Dunno

Schizo....yeah I think we got one on the board guys, jeje. Psychotropics anyone?

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goin_south says on Apr 20, 2008, 16:45:

nyb, you could not survive, living down here;
wakin up with alligators and moccasins in yer bathtub is always a tough day

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SiV says on Apr 20, 2008, 18:29:

Nah, Rubito, nutrias are otters.

Stultórum númere infinitum est.

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Frank Rizzo says on Apr 20, 2008, 19:00:

what about those Quis (sp??)...they love those damn things in Pasto...

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nueva york bombero says on Apr 20, 2008, 19:53:

So Cat girl.... what's for dinner???!?!?!

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poco says on Apr 21, 2008, 02:20:

Quote: GS, Nutria IS a delicacy in Colombia, it's called CHIGUIRO, and most places that have a grill have it.

Wrong animal. A nutria is an aquatic rat. Rice farmers in Texas shoot them. They damage the levees. Eat a rat,, not me. I'd rather eat corn fed beef.

CHIGUIRO: http://nobcentral.blogspot.com/2007/07/chiguiro.html

NUTRIA: http://louisianahuntingtoday.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/nutri...

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Apr 21, 2008, 04:51:

Isn't chiguiro the same animal as capybara? Or related?

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Apr 21, 2008, 04:57:

Capybaras

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sloopskipper says on Apr 21, 2008, 07:02:

Is not cuya (guinea pig) that they eat in Perú and Ecuador?

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slguy says on Apr 21, 2008, 07:08:

yep. sure is.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Apr 21, 2008, 07:09:

Capybaras are a native American species. They can only be found in Central and South America.

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Albatross says on Apr 21, 2008, 08:11:

Cute little buggers... I wonder if they taste good ?

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sloopskipper says on Apr 21, 2008, 08:45:

I eat escargot, oysters, and calimari, but couldn't bring myself to try pets. I also have never eaten hare/rabbit, or horsemeat.

But they are very popular in Perú. They brought a raw one to the table in a restaurant, and I nearly lost my lunch.

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SiV says on Apr 21, 2008, 11:19:

Final word, with photos, latin names and everything. . .

Nutria= otter
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutria

Chiguiro= capybara (the world's largest rodent, I think)
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrochoerus_hydrochaeris

And, cuy/ conejillo de Indias= guinea pig
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavia_porcellus

Stultórum númere infinitum est.

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SiV says on Apr 21, 2008, 11:28:

No problem. Just don't eat otters, OK?

Stultórum númere infinitum est.

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Frank Rizzo says on Apr 21, 2008, 13:16:

ahhhhh cuy....thats the little buggers they throw down like potato chips in pasto.....

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Robert Jorge says on Apr 22, 2008, 02:36:

Nutria are in the Order "Rodentia". They are absolutely rodents. They are basically giant rats, just like people said above. They have huge front teeth that do not stop growing - like all rodents. The only rodent larger than a nutria is a beaver. The name "nutria" comes from a combination of Greek words meaning "mouse and beaver." The only thing nutria and otters have in common is that they are semi-aquatic and that they are mammals. That's it. Otters are weasels. Otters are 100% carnivorous - nutria are vegetarians.

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CatGirl says on Apr 22, 2008, 08:14:

RJ - thanks for the clarifiaction, jaja. Guess these guys prefer otters and guinea pigs to beavers - LOL

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CatGirl says on Apr 22, 2008, 10:23:

Rubito....I'll leave that to the experts...I am more of a sausage gal, jajaja

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CatGirl says on Apr 22, 2008, 10:27:

jejeje....you ARE a Bad boy arent you Rubito ;)

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aztec says on Apr 22, 2008, 18:53:

Damn this CatGirl certainly knows how to handle a man. She has an inherent feel for the male psyche. I wonder if she currently has someone on a leash?

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CatGirl says on Apr 22, 2008, 19:51:

Aztec...now there you go again, jaja. A leash? Oh my....

Got Leather? jajaja

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webmanco says on Apr 22, 2008, 19:59:

...A yo, déjenme queto y no me jodan má! ...

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CatGirl says on Apr 22, 2008, 20:03:

Only joking BTW, jajaja

Webmanco...what is that first pic? The second is a guinea pig...but the first...kind of ferral looking UNO?

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webmanco says on Apr 22, 2008, 20:06:

The first one is a Chiguiro, the second one is a Cuy

Now the first one was a Chiguiro





This one was a cuy
http://www.vivatravelguides.com/south-america/peru/lake-titicaca/puno/...

I'm a big believer in traveling globally and eating locally. But this poor little Cuy was served up whole, stripped of his fur, gutted, fried and splayed out on the plate looking up at me. I just couldn't do it. I couldn't bring a fork anywhere near this rodent. I couldn't eat my niece's pets.

...A yo, déjenme queto y no me jodan má! ...

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CatGirl says on Apr 22, 2008, 20:36:

Oh geeze Webmanco...I am so sorry I asked, jajaja. That is too weird for me. I think I´d have to try it sliced rather than whole. That´s too close to a pet that got too close to the electrical outlet...eeek

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MitchAlvarez says on Apr 22, 2008, 21:21:

yuck.........

"Ingrid callate la jeta!! Stay in France"

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MitchAlvarez says on Apr 22, 2008, 21:21:

time for emergency repair service!!!!!!!!

"Ingrid callate la jeta!! Stay in France"

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MitchAlvarez says on Apr 22, 2008, 21:21:

lets show what colombia really looks like

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MitchAlvarez says on Apr 22, 2008, 21:21:

mi bello pais hermoshhooo carajo!!!

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MitchAlvarez says on Apr 22, 2008, 21:22:

"Ingrid callate la jeta!! Stay in France"

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MitchAlvarez says on Apr 22, 2008, 21:36:

"Ingrid callate la jeta!! Stay in France"

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MitchAlvarez says on Apr 22, 2008, 21:36:

"Ingrid callate la jeta!! Stay in France"

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MitchAlvarez says on Apr 22, 2008, 21:37:

"Ingrid callate la jeta!! Stay in France"

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MitchAlvarez says on Apr 22, 2008, 21:38:

la ciudad de la hermosssshha lauthra:

Cali es cali y lo demas es loma... pues eso dicen ellos jaja

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MitchAlvarez says on Apr 22, 2008, 21:38:

y claro lo mas hermoso lo dejo pa que lo aprecien de ultimo...........jaja

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MitchAlvarez says on Apr 22, 2008, 21:39:

"Ingrid callate la jeta!! Stay in France"

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goin_south says on Apr 22, 2008, 22:52:

so easy to tell, ... a Colombian city... they jus have their own look... style.
nice photos M Alvarez.

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Robert Jorge says on Apr 23, 2008, 02:27:

Great pictures - I'll refrain from making a chorizo, leche, leather joke.

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Tinto (Moderator) says on Apr 23, 2008, 07:24:

Tonight we are featuring cuy completo, charred to a delightful crisp, presented legs up and nestled next to semi-peeled and boiled potatoes. Cuy is best paired with a lukewarm bottle of Inca Kola from the 2008 harvest.

We're sorry, but if you'd like a little green or some other color on your plate you'll have to go elsewhere.

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houstongal says on Apr 23, 2008, 08:23:

Tinto - I loved Inca Kola! Tastes like bubble gum to me!

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Frank Rizzo says on Apr 23, 2008, 23:34:

cool pics Mitch , thanks !!.......hey Desi...in that cali pic...you can see all of santa terrisita, santa rita, bella vista on to the torre and to the north..granada, santa monica..(just a bit)...(at least most of the north)...bet your house is there if you look close...no??

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