Colombia is not good enough to.....

manINred says on Oct 13, 2008, 06:32:

The sooner the Colombian football federation realizes this, the better. Believe me, it is worse to go on deluding oneself when it comes to the ability of the current squad. A complete overhaul is needed, the sooner, the better.

As an example: England. They were always a joke under Steve McClaren. They, on the other hand, seemed to have the talent to qualify for the euros but the coaching staff were such a bunch of blundering buffoons that they finished 3rd in their qualifying group behind Croatia and Russia. As a result of the English FA and fans having delusional faith in the team, they didn't qualify. When they realized how rubbish they were, they got rid of the manager, have a new (adept) coach and seem to be on the right path.

I do believe, in Colombia's case, it is as simple as bringing in someone who has the ability to bring out the best in the players, someone who is objective and wil make squad selections based on certain necessary criteria rather than on nostalgia or baseless hope.

While the current pool of Colombian players leaves a lot to be desired, their is no reason that they should be finishing anything less than fifth place in the group.

However, I leave you this to weep over: http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/preliminaries/southamerica/standings/inde...

Team MP W D L GF GA Pts
Paraguay Paraguay 9 6 2 1 17 6 20
Brazil Brazil 9 4 4 1 15 4 16
Argentina Argentina 9 4 4 1 13 6 16
Chile Chile 9 4 1 4 13 13 13
Uruguay Uruguay 9 3 3 3 17 8 12
Ecuador Ecuador 9 3 3 3 11 14 12
Colombia Colombia 9 2 4 3 4 8 10
Bolivia Bolivia 9 2 2 5 11 20 8
Venezuela Venezuela 9 2 1 6 9 17 7
Peru Peru 9 1 4 4 5 19 7

Enough with the delusional and boring football... !!!

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webmanco says on Oct 13, 2008, 06:57:

Sad but true.

Lastimosamente siempre debemos esperar un milagro.

...A yo, déjenme queto y no me jodan má! ...

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feldz0084 says on Oct 13, 2008, 08:21:

yerr tough one to swallow..some of the games have been pitiful. watched the ecuador game last night and those buggers played with some serious purpose. also saw the 4-0 A-beating the Brazilians put on the Venez...i hope colombia can keep it competitive with them on wednesday, cuz although venezuela is crap, that was the most boring, toyyy game ever

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Mononoke28 says on Oct 13, 2008, 10:08:

I don't understand why they don't spend the money on a really good coach that will get them at the very least to the World Cup. At this point who care about how well they would do there, but at least get there and play the first round, lose and go back home. Geez.

Diana

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Oct 13, 2008, 10:29:

I remember i received and email from a Colombian friend saying " (los doce mas malos)


1) Osama bin laden



2) La Seleccion Colombia




jejeje

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webmanco says on Oct 13, 2008, 10:32:

Hasta el Centauros le gana a la Seleccion Colombia.

...A yo, déjenme queto y no me jodan má! ...

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Oct 13, 2008, 10:33:

Hasta el equipo de barrio mas bien.

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webmanco says on Oct 13, 2008, 10:35:

hasta el equipo de PBH liderado por Elmo, Rambo, Mompy, un par de mujeres etc

...A yo, déjenme queto y no me jodan má! ...

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Mononoke28 says on Oct 13, 2008, 14:15:

No se le olvide Simon como arquero.

Diana

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Noelito40 says on Oct 13, 2008, 14:29:

Good article on Colombia's plight at http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/timvickery/2008/10/the_boy_from_bolivia_sho...

Noelito

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manINred says on Oct 13, 2008, 16:06:

That is an extremely good article.

""Our old style of possession football is criticised heavily here," he said. "People say you have to be more direct, get the ball forward quickly, you shouldn't pass the ball around so much - and because of this the joy and the talent have finished.""

This sums it up. Possession-oriented football is what dominates the international game, for the most part. Especially in the heat of South Africa, if you pay a more direct, attacking (English midtable premiership for example) style game you will be beaten by teams who are able to play the whole 90 minutes as yours tires after 60.

As the article reminds us, Colombia's golden-era of football used the possession football that teams like Argentina and Brazil and even Spain nowadays use to delight crowds worldwide, there is nothing wrong with it and is more conducive to players with lots of technical ability.

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Mononoke28 says on Oct 14, 2008, 13:17:

We need more Pibe's, Asprilla's or young Higuita's to get to the World Cup. So I'm definitely not holding my breath for that one.

Diana

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webmanco says on Oct 15, 2008, 20:35:

I guess Brasil is not that good either. !



Colombia empató 0-0 con Brasil en el Maracaná y terminó el año con once puntos en la Eliminatoria

...A yo, déjenme queto y no me jodan má! ...

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johnny2008 says on Oct 15, 2008, 20:43:

So on a night like this when the football is on, where is the guy that says he has just been released from prison in Bogota and is saving up for his bus fare back to Medellin? Where is the guy that walks the streets perpetually looking for medicine for his baby? Where is the guy pretending to be Italian that says he has been mugged by Taxistas and wants $1500 to get to the embassy in Calle 93?

Odd that they should all disappear at the same time isn´t it?

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manINred says on Oct 16, 2008, 04:07:

Damn, I was about to watch this match which I thought was on in two hours! I guess I was incorrect.

I am not incorrect about Brazil, which relatively speaking is a joke. Dunga has taken a team that should be playing a los dioses to a team that draws 0-0 with the current Colombian squad.

The manager of Colombia and Dunga should get together and be expelled from football for life.

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Mononoke28 says on Oct 16, 2008, 13:39:

Is it possible that they just "assume" they will win a match just because they're known to be one of the best teams in America and don't perform that well? I'm just wondering because they made the Colombia team look like they played really well, which they did.

Diana

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manINred says on Oct 16, 2008, 16:46:

Mononoke28, you are absolutely correct. Brazillians are the most arrogant, bar not even the Germans, when it comes to football. They think that just based on the fact that they are Brazil, they will win everything they play. Often they are correct, but I am glad that Dunga is proving them wrong, and trust me, Dunga won't be around much longer.

I am glad Colombia didn't lose, but I am still afraid that I do not see them making the world cup, unless they change managers.

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