Colombia: 3 Israelis escape bus-torching

esanch36 says on Sep 2, 2008, 12:34:

There goes the Coast,,damn elmo what are you going to do??

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spy1983 says on Sep 2, 2008, 12:48:

Care to defend Tasco? This happens all the time in the states you say?

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jonas says on Sep 2, 2008, 12:50:

Pooooooor Isralis. And when they get to Cartagena they won´t even have a place to stay since police there raided the narco hotels in Getsemaní....
http://www.eltiempo.com/colombia/caribe/2008-09-02/50-allanamientos-y-...

there goes the coast....

Mi alma se la dejo al diablo

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johnny2008 says on Sep 2, 2008, 13:55:

"My daughter and a friend who was with her on the bus saved for this trip for a long time following their release from the army,"

KARMA! How many buses did the IDF torch in Lebanon 2 years ago?

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PBHjon says on Sep 2, 2008, 13:56:

are you implying the israelis deserved to get their bus torched because some israeli backpackers buy hallucinogens? or did i misread your post. i do that a lot.

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esanch36 says on Sep 2, 2008, 14:41:

wow john you are a piece of $$% at for saying that

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pedro says on Sep 2, 2008, 14:46:

Johnny,

Let me try this as a social experiment. Drop me a line with your home address. I'll show up with a rocket launcher and start launching explosives at your house. Let's see how long you can put up with that before you want to take some action.

The Israelis genuinely want to live in peace. They just have some unpleasant neighbours.

que nota!

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PBHjon says on Sep 2, 2008, 14:48:

johnny2008 is pure scum, the lowest quality of human being. That kind of post he just made isnt interesting or funny, rather it reveals the thought processes of a demented individual.

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johnny2008 says on Sep 2, 2008, 14:53:

Apologies and you are right, this isn't the right place for such comments

Sometimes I forget which side of the Atlantic I am on

It won't happen again

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rocinante says on Sep 2, 2008, 20:06:

Yeah but you can't help but wonder why there were only 3 people on the bus. I didn't think they made trips if they couldn't fill it to like 90% capacity.

"World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Not that the US president actually runs the US." Feb 5, 2008

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PBHjon says on Sep 2, 2008, 21:38:

the thought processes of unintelligent and irrational people seldom make interesting topics.

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jonas says on Sep 2, 2008, 23:02:

truthseeker: It is not about religion, it is about how a bunch of kids act when they go travel after serving 3 years in the military.... traveling in groups and behaving like they owned the world...
If you want to know what I mean just go spend a week in Taganga during August or go to Cuzco where I even met a dope dealer that wouldn´t sell to them---and believe me they would have bought a lot.... So now try to understand how come he wouldn´t deal with them.
I have met some really nice ones, but they didn´t travel in groups. And they actually taught me a lot about these guys traveling in groups if you know what I mean.

Mi alma se la dejo al diablo

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papiChulo says on Sep 2, 2008, 23:48:

jonas... I have had the same experiences.

some of the rudest people I know don't smoke

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johnny2008 says on Sep 3, 2008, 01:10:

rocinante, I don't think there were only 3 people on the bus, but yes it does read like that. I think it is just written from an israeli perspective.

"all those aboard the bus fled the scene after it was pulled over and set on fire by guerillas"

implies a few more people fleeing. if you check the website link and search for the Cali bombing it isn't there, it only focuses on the israelis. Not another jibe at israel from me, all countries' media do the same.

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viajero123 (☼Travelguide writer) says on Sep 3, 2008, 01:32:

brano says on Sep 3, 2008, 02:12:

i would never wish anyone experiencing such violence like those 3 guys. it dosnt matter where they are from. on the other hand, i also have to agree with jonas. wanna experience some crazy-right-after-military-service young israelis? start with south east asia - anywhere from bangkok to hanoi and back, through cambodia, laos and india. they do act like they are someone special and when you ask them why they tell you you cant understand them as you are not jewish. the best isrealis ive ever met never traveled i groups and were not right after the military service. when i asked them why they dont hang out with the others they started to tell me stories after which i felt even more disgusted.

anyways, i didnt really get the story. why and who exactly pulled the bus over and set it on fire? and how do we know they were guerillas? did they try to attack the bus 'cause they knew there were some foreigners onboard? from the article one cant figure out what has actually happened in details.

...and cheers to all nice israelis who act normal and dont mind meeting new people from different countries and treat them like their friends!!!

over and out!

"I can remember when the air was clean and sex was dirty."

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PBHjon says on Sep 3, 2008, 03:06:

I was amused how that whatshisface a couple posts up apologized and then said that he was on the "wrong side of the Atlantic", as if people in europe would somehow think that it was OK to terrorize or murder Israeli packbackers because their government did something the poster didnt agree with. That is truly moronic thinking, LMAO. Only the most intellectually bankrupt would go along with that line of thought.

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papiChulo says on Sep 3, 2008, 13:50:

truthseeker are you refering to the isrealito hostel in medallo?

some of the rudest people I know don't smoke

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jonas says on Sep 3, 2008, 15:11:

I guess they also shut down "their" hostel (casa Ifta) in Bogota for the same reasons after the septimo dia TV report "Caminos del Vicio" on narcoturismo.

Mi alma se la dejo al diablo

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Titofijo says on Sep 3, 2008, 15:15:

Israelis in Medellin ------RUN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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papiChulo says on Sep 3, 2008, 17:53:

I met a palistine dude in medellin... he was a kool guy... rather intense tho... ;)

some of the rudest people I know don't smoke

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nbenjamin says on Sep 4, 2008, 08:30:

johnny 2008 says:

"My daughter and a friend who was with her on the bus saved for this trip for a long time following their release from the army,"

KARMA! How many buses did the IDF torch in Lebanon 2 years ago?

Then he goes on to say:

"Sorry thought forgot I was on the other side of the atlantic"

Europeans always forget that they ran the world for 800 plus years and completely brutalized the entire world. (Without taking a side on Israel and Palestine) Karma? Hey doode - you are from England - Karma - that country raped and pillaged the world in a manner far worst and for much longer than Israel.

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tasco66 says on Sep 4, 2008, 11:10:

Colombia is still way safer than Israel.

That's because Farc are too chicken to blow themselves up...Farc don't want to die for their "cause"...they only want to kill for their “cause�…

Not being bound to swear to the dogmas of any master

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PBHjon says on Sep 4, 2008, 20:16:

While i was amused, and agree with, your comments about FARC cowardice, I am not sure that Colombia is safer than Israel. Someone would have to dig through the statistics to see.

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joelg says on Sep 4, 2008, 20:46:

good point PBHjon

Israel ranks in the top 10 SAFEST countries in the world

Colombian in the 10 most dangerous

do what you like, take risks, build something

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tasco66 says on Sep 6, 2008, 10:13:

"Israel ranks in the top 10 SAFEST countries in the world"

Yeah right:

http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/terrorism/terrisrael.html

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pobrecito says on Sep 6, 2008, 14:42:

Israel is certainly safer than Colombia: see the number of homicides in each country.
Terrorism is not the only reason of insecurity. It is evident for all people, except one.
God bless him, he is a "task(o) of God".

De que vale la vida si cuando la tenemos parece muerta. La vida es para sentirla, para vibrar, para luchar, para combatir. Eso justifica nuestro paso por la tierra........Jaime Pardo Leal

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tasco66 says on Sep 8, 2008, 10:02:

Yep, I am more concerned about some guy blowing himself up next to me than someone stealing my wallet. That is why I go to Colombia. Now pobre tell us why you also prefer Colombia, since you hate so much Uribe that has made it safe for you to move there.

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pobrecito says on Sep 8, 2008, 13:01:

(yawn)

De que vale la vida si cuando la tenemos parece muerta. La vida es para sentirla, para vibrar, para luchar, para combatir. Eso justifica nuestro paso por la tierra........Jaime Pardo Leal

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