Cockfighting

scotty says on Jul 7, 2007, 05:35:

Does Colombia have cock fighting? about 5 or 6 trips back my pane landed in Cali, I went outside and got in a cab, as we were driving out of the airport parking lot i looked over at some loud activity and there right in the airport parking area is a cockfight, guys betting money, unbelievable.

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kalder says on Jul 7, 2007, 05:39:

I've been in that car park many times. There was a cockfight in it!!!!!!

I'm just trying to imagine that happening at Heathrow...

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jaramillo says on Jul 7, 2007, 06:49:

I grew up in Antioquia and never saw or heard of a cockfight. I always heard about it happening in la costa (as Elmo would say, north of Montería).

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kalder says on Jul 7, 2007, 07:10:

I've been googling and am surprised to learn that it's still legal in parts of France and the US.

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LA_MONA says on Jul 7, 2007, 08:10:

Disgusting if you ask me, damn right it should be illegal....

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Timba says on Jul 7, 2007, 08:17:

It is illegal, but it happens everywhere because of the gambling. I've seen cockfights in NYC.

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LA_MONA says on Jul 7, 2007, 08:26:

Poor animals! Mas animales son los que apuestan viendo sufrir a un animalito indefenso....I just don't trust people who like that kind of thing, I think they may have been deprived of love as babies or something...no offence meant!!

Para volar, es preciso tener resistencia. -M.Lin

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jul 7, 2007, 08:35:

There's a lot of animal cruelty in Colombia. At least what we see as cruelty to animals. Colombians don't place lots of value on animal life, having enough human life issues to worry about, I suppose.

Cockfights, feria horse parades where the hungry, thirsty, beaten animal is just abandoned somewhere after the drunk rider has sauntered off somewhere to continue partying, neighbours feeding broken and ground glass to unwanted dogs, monkeys held on a leash that chafes around the tiny waist are just some examples.

Cheers,
Desi

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LA_MONA says on Jul 7, 2007, 09:07:

Malditos....

me da rabia eso

There is here too, I have heard some disturbing stuff too on the news, I wish they would prepare you and give you the option of switching off before you hear that kind of thing, that's why I have stopped watching the spanish chanel TVE cos the other day I saw a girl being stoned to death by a bunch of middle aged men as she comitted the "sin" of falling in love with a guy from a different religious group, it was horrific they were all standing around recording it on their mobiles.....and I wasn't able to sleep that night, I couldn't get it out of my mind..

Oh well sorry I think I went off the subject there...

People are so cruel to animals and others, it's sad .......**sigh**

Mona

Para volar, es preciso tener resistencia. -M.Lin

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Robert Jorge says on Jul 7, 2007, 09:10:

Cockfighting is also popular in the Meta (interior of Colombia). I never saw a cockfight, but I saw lots of the roosters used for the fights in people's yards or patios.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jul 7, 2007, 09:10:

There are lots of people who don't even stop if they run over a dog when driving. Animal life is way down in the list of priorities of your average Colombian...

Cheers,
Desi

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LA_MONA says on Jul 7, 2007, 09:17:

Desidera - I am not being funny but I wouldn't stop either!!!!!

Only if the dog was dead of course - if it was alive I would panic and ask for help, but there would be tears even though I am much of a fan of animals, as in having pets etc but I HATE the idea of any living thing suffering or causing it to suffer on purpose?

Over here there are also people who treat animals as they would their own offspring! They even let them sleep in their bed and stuff...eew! No offence to anyone who does that!

jajajaj hay de todo en este mundo tan patas arriba

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LA_MONA says on Jul 7, 2007, 09:18:

Sorry I meant to say:

Only if the dog was dead of course - if it was alive I would panic and ask for help, but there would be tears even though I am NOT much of a fan of animals, as in having pets etc but I HATE the idea of any living thing suffering or causing it to suffer on purpose?

Para volar, es preciso tener resistencia. -M.Lin

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bueno_pues says on Jul 7, 2007, 09:27:

Las galleras son muy popular en la costa. Acerca del aeropuerto de Monteria ellos lo tienen. Es un cielo para los corronchos.

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kalder says on Jul 7, 2007, 09:49:

I'm wondering if many Colombians are opposed to the 'sport'?

My cockfighting enthusiast father-in-law is a man of intense decency and kindness. But he's been around so much violence and horror in his life, I think the idea of 'rights' for animals (especially birds) would just puzzle him.

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LA_MONA says on Jul 7, 2007, 10:01:

Kalder -

I am sure he is, it's just the way I see things - I am just too sensitive when it comes to any kind of violence, I dont mean to insult anyone and maybe I should keep my views to myself in future ;-)

Mona

Para volar, es preciso tener resistencia. -M.Lin

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goin_south says on Jul 7, 2007, 10:02:

They are putting an end to that event (I wouldn't call it sport) in the Banana Republic (Louisiana), and ....... so I imagine... they will also put an end to it, or attempt to, in the not-so-distant future.

Ciao! Gustav. Bienvenitos, Ike.

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goin_south says on Jul 7, 2007, 10:03:

And, I bet even 'Puta-Maya', the PBh Parrot thinks that is a good idea :)

Ciao! Gustav. Bienvenitos, Ike.

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kalder says on Jul 7, 2007, 10:22:

Oh God don't do that La Mona! You're not insulting anyone. :)

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kalder says on Jul 7, 2007, 10:28:

G- I gather Louisiana is a world of its own. Is it true that, of all the states, its legal system is based on the Code Napoleon?

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kalder says on Jul 7, 2007, 10:42:

I've just been discussing cockfighting over dinner with my wife. She says the mafia guys bet heavily on it- so that answers that question. Interestingly, she has no concept that the 'sport' may be immoral or cruel. She just shrugged and said: 'If you're so interested, I'll take you next time we're there.'

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Robert Jorge says on Jul 7, 2007, 10:43:

Kalder, I heard the same thing about the legal system being based on the Napoleon code.

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kalder says on Jul 7, 2007, 10:46:

Hi Robert.

I've also heard it has levels of institutional corruption unheard of in the rest of the US.

Ever since I read James Lee Burke's crime novels set there, I've been fascinated by the place.

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Tinto (Moderator) says on Jul 7, 2007, 10:58:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana#Law_and_government

The above summarizes some of the peculiarities.

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Robert Jorge says on Jul 7, 2007, 11:10:

Yep, the corruption and good-ole-boy system in New Orleans and southern Louisiana is legendary. I have several friends that lived there or grew up there. Some of the stories I have heard .... scary.

--"I believe in making the world safe for our children. But not for our children's children, because I don't think that children should be having sex." - Jack Handy

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miamimike says on Jul 7, 2007, 12:22:

The Police and Animal Control regularly catch the Cock Fight Organizers in West Miami near Okechobee. Seems as soon as one group gets shut down, another starts up but their Days are numbered...

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goin_south says on Jul 7, 2007, 12:58:

you both are correct, about the Napoleanonic code.
La? It's catching up. Everyone....everywhere, lives 'by code', now. Even the Banana Republic.

But, you could/would likely appreciate the way things were here 20 years ago, .... alot (more than any other state) like 'the rest of the Caribbean states'. Less government interference. Like Colombia. And, A WHOLE LOT OF REVELRY.... SIEMPRE.... Like Colombia.

I remember a friend who went to Minnesota and after being told he couldn't carry his shotgun in the inside back of the truck, across the window, in a holder, and that he couldn't fish in the river with one of those big nets.... he told em he was going back home cause they got too many f*qn laws up there!

Ciao! Gustav. Bienvenitos, Ike.

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goin_south says on Jul 7, 2007, 13:00:

jorge.... give me a break, now.... there is slime from the local prisons walking the halls all over that Florida panhandle.... YOU'RE STILL IN THE SOUTH, THERE....BOY! jejee

Ciao! Gustav. Bienvenitos, Ike.

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goin_south says on Jul 7, 2007, 13:05:

Actually, Kalder.... no other place, probably, other than maybe Puerto Rico (from what I have heard) resembles the culture of Colombia, like that of Southern Louisiana... Cajun Country, if I may. (No, I am not one, ..... solo...honery...honorary? probably not.... you know how I am) But, it is heavily Catholic, work hard, party harder,....very similar indigenous sorts of music, alot based on or around the sound of the accordion. One speaks (spoke) french; the other spanish.....many times otherwise, you wouldn't know the difference.

Ciao! Gustav. Bienvenitos, Ike.

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scotty says on Jul 7, 2007, 16:03:

Desi's right there is alot of animal cruelty in Colombia they have cock fights and dog fights bull fighting and others. I have seen the cock fights and the dog fights, pretty bad, no one seems to care its very common.

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goin_south says on Jul 7, 2007, 18:00:

sometimes there's cockfights right here on pbh.... ;)

Ciao! Gustav. Bienvenitos, Ike.

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bueno_pues says on Jul 7, 2007, 20:20:

Por supuesto hay muchos de gallos.

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Monpirri says on Jul 7, 2007, 20:23:

funny cock fight

Check this video out.

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goin_south says on Jul 7, 2007, 23:04:

C what I mean, monpirri? there's even cockfighting here on pbh - virtual... cockfighting! jeja

Ciao! Gustav. Bienvenitos, Ike.

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Miguel says on Jul 8, 2007, 00:32:

There are activists in the State of New Mexico in the USA who are petitioning the courts to re-instate the legality of cockfights based on a treaty signed by the USA and Mexico over a hundred years ago.

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Cockney Colombian says on Jul 8, 2007, 07:52:

The only animal sport I have seen was bull fighting and I didn't particularly want to but it was a bank holiday and the whole village was there so we went there. It wasn't as bad as I expected, there was no flashy costumes and poking the bulls with sticks and hurting them, just flag waving and dodging, and with many cheers of support when the bull actually knocked somebody down!

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LA_MONA says on Jul 8, 2007, 08:15:

Good for the bull ;-)

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Robert Jorge says on Jul 8, 2007, 11:08:

In Villavicencio, they actually ride up next to the bulls on a horse, and then while the horse is running next to the bull, the llanero grabs the bull's tail and actually trips up the bull by pulling the tail. Besides the bull tumbling, he doesn't get hurt. No spears or swords. I can't remember the name of the activity, but I loved watching it. And talk about skilled horsemanship.

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miamimike says on Jul 8, 2007, 23:10:

Killing such a Magnificient Animal is defies reason; why not allow The Bull to live, entertain and fight another day?

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Robert Jorge says on Jul 8, 2007, 23:22:

My wife says the sport of tripping up cattle by pulling their tails while riding a horse is called coleo.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jul 9, 2007, 01:13:

There was a thread about it before.

my grandmother used to live by the side of a cockfight breeding place in Monteria.

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