Cingular roaming in Colombia

Miguel_Clavo says on Jun 13, 2006, 23:03:

Why not just get a Colombian SIM card when you are in COL? Its just swapping the SIM card, after buying it from Moviestar, Ola, or Comcel,etc...all GSM technology....also, the 650 had a software upgrade recently so make sure yours is up-to-date...and if all else fails, pay the bill!! jejejeje...just kidding...the GSM version of the 700 is supposed to be out in August, which is what i am waiting for..i just hope the OS is Windows Mobile 5.0....and confirm your 650 is the unlocked version, right? or does it have the Cingular branding on it? I read something from the Colombian website of treo or palmone which mentioned that the Treo 650 should be 100% compatible with the Colombian GSM and ISP companies as well..

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo...faltan 19 días...Colombia es pasión!

"F.A.R.C..S.U.C.K.S"

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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blakester says on Jun 14, 2006, 07:59:

Cingular I brought my Cingular Notorola RAZR Black to MEdellin a month ago, and it only worked on OLA. And I used it about 29 minutes, and spend $242 dollars!! UGH!

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alexis33015 says on Jun 14, 2006, 08:44:

ok i have a cingular razer
if i take it and switch my sim card i could make local calls in colombia??
im confused?

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Gomezman5 says on Jun 14, 2006, 08:52:

Miguel Clavo.... If he has a Cingualar GSM phone, they are locked and they will only work on the Cingular network, or other networks that Cingular has contractual agreements with for the use of their towers. Using a GSM sim card in Colombia will will NOT work unless the phone is unlocked. That is why if you look on Ebay, you will note that all of the GSM phones that they have for sale, all state that the phone is unlocked. The phone is worthless unless the phone is unlocked. Sure, you can use it in Colombia while it is locked....big deal! So what? What good is it if you get charged these rediculous fees like $2.40 a minute? I'll tell ya. You end up like the guy in the post above me with a $242 bill for 29 minutes of talk time. So tell me, how great GSM is. Who cares if you can use the phone around the world? This guy would have been MUCH MUCH better off if he would have left his phone at home and rented a phone in Colombia with one of their local carriers. OR he HAS TO GET THE PHONE UNLOCKED. Only then will he be able to buy a sim card from a Colombian carrier while in Colombia. If it is not unlocked, he will not be able to put in any other sim card but the one that is programmed for that carrier. You can bet on what I just wrote.

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jun 14, 2006, 09:25:

I dont bet on anything you write, Gman, and you can bet on that! lI know about the SIM card swapping as all of my phones have been unlocked, thank you very mucyh! (with the exception of a satellite phone i was issued)...my "unlocked/unbranded" razr using cingular and gsm technology workd just fine. He can simply send the phone into to cingular for them to "unlock" it, +/- $40 or, he can purchase the software and instruction on "how to do it yourself" also on ebay if you type in "treo 650" and scroll near the end of the hits...it will be there......Being locked means that while in the US he can only use the Cingular Network, but internationally he can use any GSM network......i used to have 8 separate phone for all over the world, now i only use GSM quad phones, as the satellite phone gets returned in 18 days!!!! jejejeje.....BTW, G5, "Using a GSM sim card in Colombia will will NOT work unless the phone is unlocked"..mentiras...i suggested buying a separate SIM cards from a Colombian company such as OLA, Moviestar/Telefonica, or Comcel.(umm, in non-legal language this means that he would be paying Colombian rates, much cheaper, and would not be paying for incoming calls)......not using the SAME card he uses in the US from Cingular...the US card will work like the OP mentioned, "contrary to your truths" but his rates will be ridiculously high.........Tell you how great the GSM is? Hmmm...do your homework, please before spouting from the wrong blowhole....less than 10% of the countries use CDMA or TDMA technology....the rest of civilization uses GSM.....you are right, what good is GSM? no good unless you like to leave you house every now and then to visit your foreign neighbors...=) BTW, the Education was free, and you are welcome! (the complimentary first visit!) jejejeje...
Just my opinion
Miguel_Clavo...faltan 18 días...Colombia es pasión!

"F.A.R.C..S.U.C.K.S"

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jun 14, 2006, 09:36:

BTW, again... "If it is not unlocked, he will not be able to put in any other sim card but the one that is programmed for that carrier. You can bet on what I just wrote.".....Treo 600 and 650 and the Razr are quadbands and can be GSM techology if purchased that way....no need to unlock them to use the other cards....read the OP, his worked fine in the International mode...and it is simply a matter of swapping the Sim cards out even with a locked phone, or at worst some simple reprogramming at the Colombian service center where you buy the sim card (,,locked means while in the US you have to use the service branded on the phone...BTW, i hate taking money from people so easily..there is no challenge to it! jejejeje

Blakester, that is because you used the US CIngular simm card to call the US....so, in effect, if you wanted to call locally while in Colombia, your call travels through Colombian networks to reach the US, gets rerouted from the US back to Colombia, to the local network and then on to the person you called. Expensive? you bet...its like flying from one part of Medellin to the other part via the US!! Expensive, ya think??

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo...faltan 19 días...Colombia es pasión!

"F.A.R.C..S.U.C.K.S"

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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ACBlessing says on Jun 14, 2006, 11:02:

Unlock You can buy an unlocked Treo 650 but not the 700 since that one is unlockable from Verizon. Perhaps the new Motorola Q is unclockable? Not sure.
I use my Cingular/Motorola Sliver L7 in Bogota with a Comcel prepago card. When I first got the phone here in the states, I took it down to the local cellular reseller (Alert Cellular) that sells all the cellular services and it cost me $20 to unlock it on the spot... a lot faster than ordering a kit to do it myself.
Incidentally, I had T-Mobile when I deployed to the sand and T Mobile actually emailed me back the unlock code for free. I don't think Cingular does that.

Alex Blessing, Spokane, WA USA
alex at acblessing.com
http://www.colombia.acblessing.com

Just plain poor

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Mike from Chicago says on Jun 14, 2006, 12:35:

Clarify the question OK, Thanks for the replys, but let me restate the question.
I know all about unlocking phones and using Colombian SIM cards.
The question is, I want to recieve US calls on my US phone.
I have Colombian phones for all my local calls and Vonage to call the US. But I want my US contacts to be able to call me when I am traveling on my US phone as if I haven't left. As of last Aug, it stopped working after working for 2 years. Anyone have any experience in this specific area?
Many thanks,
Mike

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jun 14, 2006, 14:26:

MFC..sounds like it is your phone..hope its under warranty.... and have you upgraded to the newest Treo 650 software.....you can download it for free on the website....if your phone is that old (2 years) there is an upgrade which may fix it....or, post an email to the Treo forum geeks who will probably have an answer for ya. it is amazing that for some people, PDAs are their whole life, it seems!...

ACG....the GSM version of the Treo 700 is "supposedly" to be released in Aug 2006, according to some friends that work on that project...


Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo...faltan 17 días...Colombia es pasión!

"F.A.R.C..S.U.C.K.S"

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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Gomezman5 says on Jun 14, 2006, 18:27:

Clavo...I couldn't Give a damn whether you would bet on anything I write or not. You make so many posts here, most of which is a bunch of nonsense, a lot of which has about as much validity as what the preecher pontificates on a street corner. In the case of cingular, since I am a cingular customer of 8 years, when I speak about the damn company, I know what the hell I am talking about. You just pontificate a bunch of nonsense, that may or may not have some validity.

If this guy wants to sift through your borscht, good luck to him. By the way Mr. know it all, if the phone is a Cingular GSM phone, I don't care what make or model it is, is locked, and it must be unlocked to change SIM cards. If you don't know that, then you are quite misinformed. Sure you can use the phone with a Cingular SIM card, but you will pay big time, as that guy above pointed out.

Clavo, one of these days you will attempt to discuss a point, instead writing in circles making few if any valid points while doing so.

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jun 14, 2006, 18:44:

Gomez..all that to say you dont like my posts? dont read them... and continue living in your fantasy world that you have created for yourself....i congratulate you about being a cingular customer, you must make them reallly happy.....but to the rest of the knowledgeable people in the world, excluding yourself, that amounts to really nothing...and to claim to be "in the know", "trust me", and " you can take that to the bank"...only proves my point...you seriously are delusional...and take everything personal..but read my post, if you know how to, and you will see what i suggested as to unlock your beloved phone....unlocking is a software fix, there is no lock inside of you phone that needs a key....yeah, you know alot about it, i can tell...like most of your posts, you show us that you do not really know alot about alot of things despite your claims, but you do show that you know nothing about alot of things....you just dont like anyone posting anything contrary to your position...and you call me a know-it-all..and i really apologize if you have a really hard time understanding me..and that i have you going in circles.....i will try to write in simpler terms for you, so you can finally use your Blacks dictionary...jejejejjejejeje...now, dont let the door hit ya on your way out...=)

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo...faltan 17 días...Colombia es pasión!

"F.A.R.C..S.U.C.K.S"

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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Gomezman5 says on Jun 14, 2006, 19:50:

Clavo I would be glad not to read your gibberish on the condition that you leave the personal insults about what I write out of your posts. Your "I don't bet on anything yor write" comment was what prompted me to go off on you. If you are going to provoke something, expect something back. All, I did was inform you of your misinforming people. You make these silly jokes, and nutty comments on these extended thread that appear in chains, and I or nobody says a damn thing about what you write, but because I make a comment like, "bet on it", or "you can bank on it" you construe that as if I am playing God. You're the only one that seems to be so hypersensitive. Or, is it that you really can't deal with the fact that sometimes, someone might actually no more than you about something? Maybe huh? And by the way, Mr. lock and key, I was not born yesterday, I understand that the phone is locked and unlocked with a programing change that can be done with the buttons on the phone, and not done by a locksmith, but thanks for enlightening me.

All I am saying is, keep your personal comments to yourself. Follow the rules, attach the subject, not the person and I'll do the same when it comes to you. Otherwise, if you're going to take shots at me, expect me to retaliate in kind.

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Mike from Chicago says on Jun 14, 2006, 20:43:

OK..truce! Thanks for the help, but can't you guys argue on somebody else's thread!!? jajaj, thanks anyway for trying though

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jun 14, 2006, 21:34:

Sorry, MFC, but you will get used to G5..... “I would be glad not to read your gibberish on the condition that you leave the personal insults about what I write out of your posts. Your "I don't bet on anything yor write" comment was what prompted me to go off on you.”

Where have I read this before? “You can bet on what I just wrote.”..i was simply informing you that I choose not to bet on what you just wrote…and you find offense in my choice not to do as you suggested? If you don’t like my post suggestions to the OP, why do you choose to read them and attack them? Anger management classes are in order here. Nobody is forcing you to read my posts, at least no real person.

“if you are going to provoke something, expect something back.”

Reminds me of the kindergarten mentality.

“ All, I did was inform you of your misinforming people.”
You are misinformed about misinformation. But I am not surprised here.

“You make these silly jokes, and nutty comments on these extended thread that appear in chains, and I or nobody says a damn thing about what you write, but because I make a comment like, "bet on it", or "you can bank on it" you construe that as if I am playing God.”

Humor is actually a good thing, and is rumored to extend one’s lifetime. Again, if another poster does not take your comments as Gospel or seriously, you get upset?

“You're the only one that seems to be so hypersensitive. Or, is it that you really can't deal with the fact that sometimes, someone might actually no more than you about something?

Before someone dumber than you points it out: no is know. But you claim to know everything about everything. Like i am the first PBHer to point this out or to notice it. Even “barristers” don’t know everything, Gman. Do you think that the OP might want to hear various thoughts and opinions on the subject, or do you feel that only your opinion is relevant? You can call me anything you want, just do not call me late to dinner……

“Maybe huh? And by the way, Mr. lock and key, I was not born yesterday, I understand that the phone is locked and unlocked with a programing change that can be done with the buttons on the phone, and not done by a locksmith, but thanks for enlightening me.

That was a test, and you successfully passed! Congratulations! And I know you were not born yesterday, as that would make you only 2 days old, and a quite mature 2 day old person.

"All I am saying is, keep your personal comments to yourself. Follow the rules, attach the subject, not the person and I'll do the same when it comes to you. Otherwise, if you're going to take shots at me, expect me to retaliate in kind. "

I am up for it….are you? And I will “attach the subject” once I figure out what you mean.

My aplogies to the OP, and other interested parties, but I hope my comments helped out. If you are interested, you can call Cingular Customer Service (phone number from their website), and once you get past the sales people and people who will just read from a prepared company script, ask to talk to the Technical Support people like I did, who gave me the information I passed on. Has worked fine for me for a couple of years now. Contrary to the claims to the contrary. =)

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo...faltan 17 días...Colombia es pasión!

"F.A.R.C..S.U.C.K.S"

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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Gomezman5 says on Jun 14, 2006, 22:15:

hey Clavo Do you have a life outside of posting on PBH 21 out of 24 hours in a day? Apparently not. Long and repititious threads with jokes that only you laugh at with your je je je. Well I guess someone has to see the humor since it does not appear that you have many fans on PBH that do. Oh, I forgot....je je je. Except I'm serious.

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jun 14, 2006, 22:21:

Thanks for your genuine concern for my well-being, Gman... Yes, i do thank you. But since i am independently wealthy, i dont need to work. Damn, no one told me there was an on-going popularity contest here on PBH!!! i hate when that happens....maybe i will join the Chicken Little Society here to become more popular, that will solve that issue....

Anyway,

Don’t like my posts or don’t agree to my suggestions?? Simple solution, really….don’t read them…..What is great about the USA, we have this “little thing” called Freedom of Choice……it allows a person to read or not read something……Exercise Your Right! And using PBH for therapy is just not right!!!!!

Oh, i almost forgot.....simple words....hahahahaha......(since i guess jejejeje annoys you for some reason)


Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo...faltan 17 días...Colombia es pasión!

"F.A.R.C..S.U.C.K.S"

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jun 14, 2006, 22:23:

I forgot, you are the "most popular PBHer from Chicago" Pardon me while i puke........blaaahhhhhhhhhhh!...sorry...

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo...faltan 17 días...Colombia es pasión!

"F.A.R.C..S.U.C.K.S"

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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Gomezman5 says on Jun 15, 2006, 07:42:

Typical Clavo.... You write a lot of bull, and you lie. You might want to check what I actually wrote (about myself and Chicago) But if you think that the only way you can make your point is by distorting what others write, then it only goes to show that you are one of those guys that when they can't argue with anything of substance, they try to change what other people say.....so be it.

Also, about your financial status. Do you really think that anyone is all that impressed by your self declared status of independent wealth?
Then that begs the question, given such wealth, why would you spend half you life on PBH? You can't take your wealth to your next life.

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jun 15, 2006, 09:02:

Typical Clavo....hmmm keeping track of me are you? =)

Good Morning, Sunshine! I am happy that your were thinking about me this morning!

You write a lot of bull, and you lie. You might want to check what I actually wrote (about myself and Chicago)

Oh, why do I bother?...the “popular” reference was to your comment about “popularity” on PBH which you brought up and obviously feel a need to be wanted by some people, at least…. .duhhhhh…..Bull,,,,,,huh?....i thought Chicago had the rights to that name? “Chicago Bulls”, meaning multiple Chicagoans speaking a dialect of bulllllll……….

But if you think that the only way you can make your point is by distorting what others write, then it only goes to show that you are one of those guys that when they can't argue with anything of substance, they try to change what other people say.....so be it.

You are like a broken Britanny Spears record…..irritating at best……again, I was poking fun at your reference to being anything noteworthy here on PBH or in Chicago…And btw, what was the topic of arguing? I wasn’t arguing anything, I was giving a poster some information about TREO smartphones using cingular service, and other “worldphones” like the Razr V3. And some simpleton wants to turn that into a debate? And you say I need to get a life??? If the shoes fits, then, I say, enjoy your new set of shoes….jejejeje…oopps, sorry, hahahahaha……the topic was not about cingular service with the free phones you get, but the quadband GSM phones used for international purposes……….

Also, about your financial status. Do you really think that anyone is all that impressed by your self declared status of independent wealth?

My statement about being “financially independent” was in response to your claim I have nothing to do….now, take note, barrister, I will type slower now, ….as if “I was independently wealthy” and that “I don’t even need to work”……I will explain for you in simple terms…..NO, I am not independently wealthy, I do have to work, well, at least for 16 more days, then my government pension kicks in..so I can work and kill time on the computer like everyone else …..get it? Or do I need The Big A to explain it for you?...…But, only if I had been able to convince Tio Pablo to kick down some money before he was killed…oh, well, that is a different story……(and please don’t take that one literal, also, …no, I am not related to Pablo Escobar……sheeeshhh…)..does the word “gullible” ring a bell???? Or, how about “Hook, Line, and Sinker”?? ..Not the brightest bulb on the porch?.....But I do recall a person gloating about how their lawyer/accounting office snagged a well-known account that everyone on PBH would recognize, and how you were going to financially benefit in a granddddddddddd way…….One guess as to who that person was? Only one, though, no cheating….

Then that begs the question, given such wealth, why would you spend half you life on PBH? You can't take your wealth to your next life…

……..Truer words never spoken, and I am impressed with your depth. But, given that I hit 50 in less than a week, that means you are suggesting that I have been on PBH for twentyfive years……hmmm…sound about right for Chicagoan math?....i think you can pull up how long I have been registered on PBH, more or less a year if that…..Had difficulties in math in school, Sr. Abogado? …Do the math, and then update your estimate of how much time I spend on PBH…..and btw, multi-tasking comes naturally, so its very easy to do….

Enjoy the rest of your day, and really, don’t try to think of me too much, Sunshine……..


Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo...faltan 16 días...Colombia es pasión!

"F.A.R.C..S.U.C.K.S"

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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Gomezman5 says on Jun 15, 2006, 09:07:

Clavo I think you are working for the FARC, and your antics here are just a cover for your real idenity.

BTW, your the only person than manages to consistently write longer posts tham me. Did you ever hear of Carpel Tunnel. If I were you, I would not waste your time on some well known (as opposed to popular) guy from Chicago.

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Miguel_Clavo says on Jun 15, 2006, 10:40:

I think that an"E" needs to be added to the FARC acronym...FARCE is so much more accurate......You may not believe this, Gman, but i have actually supported some of your posts....just not as adamantly as you do. But when writing my posts, i use voice recognition software for that very reason, so length, in this regard, is not a concern...=) But i agree that some of my posts seem lengthy, when written in word format, they are actually much smaller. It is the formatting style of PBH that squishes them into long and skinny columns.....But in all fairness, my comments are original, and not "cut and paste" exercises that i have seen here repeatedly...(and i am not referring to your posts, G)....So, as i dont harbor any animosity towards anyone, so lets bury the hatchet and go on fighting the important battles.....

Speaking of FARC, You might find this interesting: i saw a bumper sticker this morning while fighting the normal commute traffic that i thought was interesting: it was a Peace symbol with the following message: "Peace through Superior Firepower!"......think these will sell well in Colombia??? kind of has the same effect as "Colombia es pasión!", right?

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo...faltan 16 días...Colombia es pasión!

"F.A.R.C..S.U.C.K.S"

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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Gomezman5 says on Jun 15, 2006, 11:01:

Thanks Clavo....really You are a man indeed for taking the "high road" and calling for a truce. You did so like diplomat, and I will most certainly accept it graciously! I know your intentions are honest, because I do not have voice recognition software. Instead I type while I am doing something else (like watching the Cup) and the net result is my last post made me look like a goof. You did not mention it. You could have.

BTW, I have supported you in your posts too, especially the one on immigration. And I think you like FNC too.

Have a good day !

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Mike from Chicago says on Jun 15, 2006, 17:39:

Truce OK, now that you two have kissed and made up, is there anyone
out there that can answer my question? I have the latest treo 650 software, my cingular service is working fine in the US and UK, but the phone immediately locks up 3-5 seconds after I turn it on whenever I am in Colombia. Again, this is with my US SIM card and my intention is to recieve calls to my US phone while I am in Colombia. It worked until a Sunday morning last August or Sept. I
think it was a change in the Colombian network as I am in computers and changes normally go in on Sunday mornings, but what doesn't make sense in this theory is it locks up whether it is a Ola or Comcel.
service connection in US mode. Does anyone else out there try to turn on their US phone with Cingular service while in Colombia?

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Crazy4Cali says on Jun 15, 2006, 19:16:

DId you try calling Cingular? Maybe they turned off your roaming. I know that it has to be "enabled" or it won't work and as often as cellphone companies merge, change software, etc. maybe they just reset that feature in your account.

Just a thought.

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demarco says on Jun 15, 2006, 19:47:

Swap Cingular SIM into Unlocked GSM Phone Have you tried swapping your Cingular SIM card into a different unlocked GSM phone? This way you can determine if its the Phone or the service. If your Cingular SIM works in a different phone, then it's definately the Treo.

Also, make sure you have Roaming enabled on your Treo.

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money69 says on Aug 19, 2006, 23:41:

Website for you Let me suggest you guys head over to www.prepaidgsm.net, its an invalueable resource for prepaid solutions from across the world and will cover anything you need to know.

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Brians says on Aug 20, 2006, 09:55:

Cingular I used my Blackberry with Cingular under their International Travlers Plan. When I arrived three weeks ago it did not work like they said it would. I kept having it search for available networks. It finally found three networks one was Comcel and the other two were not named. Anyway I would manually set it to the various networks and it would then work for awhile. It would then seem that after a period of time it would no longer accept the networks as I would get a note at the top of the screen "Connection refused". I would then switch to the other network and it would work. I would suggest searching for a Netork manually like this but have really no idea how I got it working. I was able to recieve calls from the USA and get my emails until I would notice the message that I was no longer on the network. It was wierd as I would just reset it and it would work again. I don't know if this helps but that was my experience/.

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