Cheap Chinese shoes coming to Colombia

scotty says on Oct 18, 2007, 13:20:

Colombians have pretty good shoes, i wonder if they are going to except the crap shoes that Payless sells?

Get Rhythm, when you got the blues. Johnny Cash

RAAAY says on Oct 18, 2007, 13:51:

scotty says on Thursday October 18th, 2007 13:20:

............ "Colombians have pretty good shoes,"


s**t.........I must be going to the wrong places............where can you get good mens shoes here....??

.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

vicshere says on Oct 18, 2007, 13:55:

their are some good shoes in Colombia but they are far and in between.....the normal shoes is made with the shitiest material.....and glue sniffing drug induced shoemakers

listo

Tinto (Moderator) says on Oct 18, 2007, 14:06:

FWIW, I looked up Samuel Azout's name. He's the mover and shaker that revived Vivero, managed the Vivero/Carulla combination and probably made a lot of money when it was sold to Exito. He was also mentioned as having an interest in opening Starbucks stores in Colombia but that story didn't pan out. Onward to the next best thing - cheap shoes!

Grateful Dead says on Oct 18, 2007, 14:52:

A good burger , Hot Dog , chili cheese fry joint would do good to in Medellin,

vicshere says on Oct 18, 2007, 15:24:

i agree GIB bought myself some 80K tennis shoes didnt last 2 months...completly blew up under my feet

listo

scotty says on Oct 18, 2007, 16:33:

Payless, bottom of the barrel

Get Rhythm, when you got the blues. Johnny Cash

dwmte7 says on Oct 18, 2007, 18:43:

just out of curiosity, tinto, not out of any particular interest.....where do you come upon these 'just out' morsels of the latest economic news?

it already seems like vic, scotty and gib are doin a little dooms day soothsaying.

dwmte

Tinto (Moderator) says on Oct 18, 2007, 19:19:

Right here:

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=colombia&btnG=Search+News

I guess it's what you'd call one of them new-fangled 'news aggregators'

capitan_centella says on Oct 18, 2007, 20:12:

Where to buy nice shoes? take transmilleno and go to "barrio restrepo" in bogotá. In there, ask for ORPAR (it´s a store. I don´t remenbe if they have stores in the north. You have to find in the yellow pages). They made EXCELENT SHOES.

"When you open your eyes, you turn around with the world, But it can change, if you only close it, and see a dream to yourself." Me.

miamimike says on Oct 19, 2007, 01:39:

And Colombian Shoemakers, like its domestic Textile Industry, will not be able to compete due to the fact China has its currency frozen at artifically low rates(china claims to be floating its currency these days but ts hardly budged since its claim). Wait 'til they crank up their Cut Flower export trade to Europe and the USA. China is the 800 lb Gorilla in Colombia's future,,,

Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." GW Bush

scotty says on Oct 19, 2007, 03:16:

China wants to do it all, and they are!

Get Rhythm, when you got the blues. Johnny Cash

dwmte7 says on Oct 19, 2007, 04:48:

china's business and export policies give real meaning to the phrase, 'product dumping'. the way it looks, it's the largest govt. supported economy in the world, underwriting the losses they encur while trying to dominate markets.

dwmte

capitan_centella says on Oct 19, 2007, 08:36:

Hum. In some point people will prefer pay "a little bit extra" than buying "made in china". You can see it now. In textile, "coltejer" made way better fabric than most of chinese factories. Even our "ruanas" (like the mexican ponchos, but made of whool and much heavier) are better made than chinese poliester.

"When you open your eyes, you turn around with the world, But it can change, if you only close it, and see a dream to yourself." Me.

dwmte7 says on Oct 19, 2007, 08:50:

how many jobs were lost with the demise of coltejer?

dwmte

morphus says on Oct 19, 2007, 08:54:

Why not? Let the Colombian consumer decide if they want Chinese or Colombian.

I think Colombian products are associated with having good quality. Most likely due to cocain and coffee. They should try to export more of their products.

capitan_centella says on Oct 19, 2007, 09:29:

I think . . .(just a tought, sorry I don´t have any stats. . .) coltejer was founded in the 50´s. Maybe 2000 o 3000.

Coltejer exports jeans. . many of the "luxury" jeans are made of coltejer´s fabric. (Diesel, marithé francoisé girbaud. . . you named).

Coletjer exports almost all his products. To domestics, its just "algodón perchado" (t-shirts material).

"When you open your eyes, you turn around with the world, But it can change, if you only close it, and see a dream to yourself." Me.

kat1 (Moderator) says on Oct 19, 2007, 09:36:

Chinese shoes = disposable shoes

Lo barato sale caro!

vicshere says on Oct 19, 2007, 09:51:

kat I disagree...when I lived in Canada I bought many a pair of Chinese dress shoes and found them very comfortable and much cheaper than Italian shoes or Canadian shoes...actually I still have 2 pair which I brought down with me..but don't use much (since the daily style is tennis shoes).....shine em up and off we go

listo

webmanco says on Oct 19, 2007, 11:22:

China, can do high, medium and low quality merchandise. But most people can not afford the high quality.

But, I'm going to start making some assumptions here.... Which means I might actually end up making an ass out of myself ..........Thu 04 17, 2008 11:34 am

morphus says on Oct 19, 2007, 11:25:

How about some decent Chinese food in Colombia? So far no good.

kat1 (Moderator) says on Oct 19, 2007, 11:45:

I would like to know what high quality products China does?

Tinto (Moderator) says on Oct 19, 2007, 11:53:

They are becoming significant players in telecommunications equipment and personal computers, although much of the technology was purchased, stolen or copied. One of these days they'll develop higher end things on their own and that, finally, is supposed to make them take intellectual property seriously. That's the theory, anyway.

Man Tequila says on Oct 19, 2007, 11:53:

Already plenty of cheap Chinese shoes in Colombia.

pues se me antoja que sus cantares son de una tierra desconocida, y yo le dije si a usted le inspira, saber la tierra de donde soy... con mucho gusto y a mucho honor...

webmanco says on Oct 19, 2007, 11:57:

You could find from laptops to toys. You request for high grade materials and they would do it.

It is like Colombian textiles, we got best quality, it is sent abroad, they put a label like Nike or Lacosse and all of a sudden becomes high quality.

But, I'm going to start making some assumptions here.... Which means I might actually end up making an ass out of myself ..........Thu 04 17, 2008 11:34 am

kat1 (Moderator) says on Oct 19, 2007, 12:16:

well here is some Chinese translation for you in case you all need it for the future

Are you harboring a Fugitive? HU YU HAI DING?

Approach me KUM HIA

Stupid fellow DUM GAI

Small horse TAI NI PO NI

Prices are too high here NO BAI DAM TING

I bumped into a coffee table AI BANG MAI NI

Have you considered a face lift? CHIN TU FAT

You trying to save electricity? WAI SO DIM?

Inquiry to determine if bus is due HAO LONG WEI TING?

Unauthorized execution LIN CHING

You're blowing your diet WAI YU MUN CHING?

Keep out of pond NOH WEI DING

Tow-Away zone NO PAH KING

Don't you know anything by Cole Porter? WAI YU SING DUM SONG?

You are not very bright YU SO DUM

I have a press pass AI NO PEI

I do not deserve the death penalty WAI HANG MI?

How about staying awhile? WAI GO NAO?

Our meeting was for next Thursday WAI YU KUM NAO?

You're suffering from chronic halitosis YU BAI SEN SEN NAO

They are approaching HIA DEI KUM

Remain out of sight LEI LO

Cleaning automobile WA SHING KAH

Premature infant TAI NI BEI BI

Cigarettes are hazardous to health NO TSMO KING

Did someone fertilize the field? HU FLUNG DUNG?

Your body odor is offensive SHU MAN GO

Midnight television program LEI TSHO

webmanco says on Oct 19, 2007, 12:22:

Náufrago - Shin Su Lan Cha

Divorcio - Chao-cho chin
Xao Xio Xin

But, I'm going to start making some assumptions here.... Which means I might actually end up making an ass out of myself ..........Thu 04 17, 2008 11:34 am

kat1 (Moderator) says on Oct 19, 2007, 12:37:

Webmanco, I though divorcio was chao chichi jiji

Man Tequila says on Oct 19, 2007, 12:54:

Why does this remind me of Chong Ki Fu?

http://www.cri-cri.net/Canciones/chongkifu.html

I have been to China, and in the markets you can buy knock-off Armani or anything else. About half the knock-off stuff is of dismal quality and falls apart. But much of the knock off stuff seems to be as good as the genuine items.

There are a lot of Chinese items of higher quality that one would not find here, in virtually any category. Lots of gorgeous things made of wood, lacquer, marble and jade too.

pues se me antoja que sus cantares son de una tierra desconocida, y yo le dije si a usted le inspira, saber la tierra de donde soy... con mucho gusto y a mucho honor...

dwmte7 says on Oct 19, 2007, 15:02:

are they making tequila and rum yet?

the fine items produced by china's real artists and craftspeople, have always been around. they are NOT cheap. they are priced at world market prices and if you want it, you have to buy your ticket to take the ride. they work in gold, diamonds, illegal ivory, illegal rinocerous horn, illegal tiger products, illegal bear kidneys and other body parts...apparently these aren't illegal in china, but in most countries around the world, they are. there's very very little cooperation on the part of the chinese govt to protect wildlife and the invironment.

dwmte

capitan_centella says on Oct 20, 2007, 15:23:

jajajajaj kat. . .

but "chao chi chi" it´s japanese i guess. . ;-)

And about quality in chinese products, im in the middle. That depends on the brand who is the owner of the designing rights. For example, almost any NIKE shoe come from a chinese factory. And they are really well made. . . but, if you own and industry and all you want is flood some country with cheap and bad products, china is your place too. . . becouse they produce "generic" too. . . for example "simply" (simply it´s a named brand from electric appliances imported by EXITO here in colombia) it´s just an example of "re-branding". They made all in china, and in here they came up with the name and the marketing strategy.

They are not so expensive appliances, but not good too. Just a way to sell us "cheapy" products. And almost everything on sympli´s catalog are analog stuff. (Tv´s, stereos with cassettes. . .)

"When you open your eyes, you turn around with the world, But it can change, if you only close it, and see a dream to yourself." Me.

Cerealkiller says on Oct 20, 2007, 15:39:

Well if colombians are anything like my mother, then those chinese shoes are going to rot in some warehouse. She always read the tags carefully and if anything says "made in china" you bet your ass she won't buy it.

Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives -John Stuart Mill

vladimiro says on Oct 20, 2007, 18:36:

If it makes you feel better, those cheap shoes made in China are most likely made by an *American* company in China, not a Chinese company:)

webmanco says on Oct 20, 2007, 18:43:

Well a friend of mine buys anything that says Discount, not matter where the item is from.

But, I'm going to start making some assumptions here.... Which means I might actually end up making an ass out of myself ..........Thu 04 17, 2008 11:34 am

Colombiche says on Oct 20, 2007, 18:47:

Chinese shoes are cheap.

You find much better quality shoes in Colombia, especially leather.

No me den trago extranjero, que es caro y no sabe a bueno.... (Rafael Godoy)

Mr. Hollywood says on Oct 20, 2007, 19:46:

A huge portion of the computers and electronics sold are built in China.

Man Tequila says on Oct 20, 2007, 19:52:

At the Colombian Bata. I saw "North Star" shoes. Haven't seen those in Canada in years.

pues se me antoja que sus cantares son de una tierra desconocida, y yo le dije si a usted le inspira, saber la tierra de donde soy... con mucho gusto y a mucho honor...

miamimike says on Oct 20, 2007, 20:32:

dwmte7 says on Friday October 19th, 2007 15:02:

are they making tequila and rum yet?
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Not sure on Rum&Tequila but Chinese Wine has hit US Shores! I've examined Various Tools made in China and while they put out some low grade junk, they also are manufacturing Tools on Par with US/German Quality. Its a shocker to see how far they have come the last few years. I also had a oppurtunity to examine some Medical Products made in China and Quality wasn't bad,,,,While shopping at our Neighborhood Target a few nights ago I came across an out of Box Philips CD,Tape Deck/AM-FM Tuner minus speakers and cords, for $20 on the special rack. I bought it at that price and after hooking it up, am amazed at the Finish Quality, Operation and Reception. And I'm hard to please,,,Made in China-$20,,,

Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." GW Bush

webmanco says on Oct 21, 2007, 04:35:

China is also known as making anything you want, you take a laptop, digital cámera or anythig and they will make (copycat) one almost as good or better as the one you took as a sample.

I read somewhere that they do manufacture offshore, while on the ship.

Octubre 20 de 2007

Efectos por ola de productos chinos fueron analizados por EE.UU. y países latinoamericanos

http://www.eltiempo.com/economia/2007-10-21/ARTICULO-WEB-NOTA_INTERIOR...

But, I'm going to start making some assumptions here.... Which means I might actually end up making an ass out of myself ..........Thu 04 17, 2008 11:34 am

dwmte7 says on Oct 21, 2007, 06:22:

mike, asia, korea, taiwan, china, etc have been in the tool making business for years. what they did until 10-15 years ago was produce rubbish. then it dawned on them that they already had the tool and dye capacity, all they had to do was change the quality of the metals used and they'd be on par with tools produced anywhere. this they've done. you can buy high quality tools now equal to any.

dwmte

kat1 (Moderator) says on Oct 21, 2007, 08:22:

all they do is produce quantity but not quality.

miamimike says on Oct 21, 2007, 12:09:

Kat-Respectively I have to disagree with you. You canbuy Quanity if you want but pay a little more and you move way up in quality with Chinese Goods. The same night I picked up that $20 Stereo Unit, I was also looking at the Bicycles at the Target Store. They stock Schwinn Brand amongstohers and I looked over those Schwinns with a fine tooth comb and was amazed at the quality for the Price. Welds were seamless and smooth, Paint was smooth, uniform&shiny. When you say all they make is quanity not quality Kat, exactly what Goods are youreferring to?

Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." GW Bush

kat1 (Moderator) says on Oct 21, 2007, 12:20:

chinese shoes! hehe

clothes, household and electric stuff, toys.

Man Tequila says on Oct 21, 2007, 12:22:

China will make what you want. What Wal-Mart, Reebok and Polo want is low cost. Some companies want quality at a low price, some want shoddy goods at the lowest price. A lot of the cheap electric stuff does not meet minimal safety standards and can be dangerous. Sometimes corners are cut, e.g. melamine in dog food.

pues se me antoja que sus cantares son de una tierra desconocida, y yo le dije si a usted le inspira, saber la tierra de donde soy... con mucho gusto y a mucho honor...

miamimike says on Oct 21, 2007, 20:34:

Like I mentioned as well as others, China has maybe 5 grades from Junk to very well made. Shoes not well made, I am not surprised but as their Industry matures, Quality will go way up also. Same thing happened with Japanese made Goods in the 60s-we termed it "Jap Junk" back then and look at it now. Japanese items are now synonmous with Quality(Toyota for example)and in time, the same thing will occur with China, including Shoes.

Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." GW Bush

miamimike says on Oct 21, 2007, 20:37:

Like I mentioned as well as others, China has maybe 5 grades from Junk to very well made. Shoes not well made, I am not surprised but as their Industry matures, Quality will go way up also. Same thing happened with Japanese made Goods in the 60s-we termed it "Jap Junk" back then and look at it now. Japanese items are now synonmous with Quality(Toyota for example)and in time, the same thing will occur with China, including Shoes.

Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." GW Bush

capitan_centella says on Oct 22, 2007, 12:29:

Leather is one of the best things in colombian products. Just hit "boots and bags" on Unicentro mall and you will see . . .

"When you open your eyes, you turn around with the world, But it can change, if you only close it, and see a dream to yourself." Me.

static says on Oct 22, 2007, 16:20:

Miamimike has it nailed.