Channel Sky One (UK): Ross Kemp on Gangs

LA_MONA says on Nov 7, 2007, 14:06:

Let me know if you watch it too.

Para volar, es preciso tener resistencia. -M.Lin

Morrongo says on Nov 7, 2007, 14:37:

mona, did you see the programme about Buenaventura, Friday on channel 5 ?

LA_MONA says on Nov 7, 2007, 15:04:

As usual it'd put the fear of God into you, the worst possible barrios of Medellin and Cartagena..

He was trying to find out if the paramilitaries really have demobilised in Medellin or not and found out that the paramilitaries are the ones mostly employing the services of the sicarios, doing their social cleansing for them.

The interview with the sicario Andres was sad, and he only managed to speak to one of the paramilitary leaders in Cartagena..

Para volar, es preciso tener resistencia. -M.Lin

LA_MONA says on Nov 7, 2007, 15:05:

Morrongo no I didn't see it, I would have liked to though, are you here in UK or in Cali?
This is why we need to let each other know what's on ;-)

Para volar, es preciso tener resistencia. -M.Lin

Man Tequila says on Nov 7, 2007, 15:06:

I saw this on YouTube, knowing nothing about Ross Kemp. I was ultimately unimpressed, but of course it was compelling enough that I watched the whole thing.

Despite the patter, the people he interviewed seemed like very low-level sicarios and gang members. They told him nothing. He drew the conclusions he wanted anyway ("I felt he was holding back"...), supporting his preformed hypotheses, which are not exactly groundbreaking (Have all the guerilla groups disbanded?). I really hope he did not get that Mother of La Candeleria killed... since THOSE are brave individuals. Mr. Kemp puts on a brave face taking the cable car to the barrio but looked less comfortable when those who had suffered terribly broke down telling them their sad and tragic stories.

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

LA_MONA says on Nov 7, 2007, 15:10:

I agree Man T he did draw hs own conclusions from alot of what was said and he couldn't get the leads he wanted to the big guys.

He was due to meet Judith una madre de La Candelaria and she got shot the day before he got to meet her and hear what she had to say, that was really sad.

Para volar, es preciso tener resistencia. -M.Lin

gabolicious says on Nov 7, 2007, 15:10:

uy Monita let us know how it was... will you?


seems like interesting....

besos
espera, vos estàs en Colombia ahora?
=)

"The new land of opportunities: Colombia!" ----- Mr Miguel_Clavo on PBH

LA_MONA says on Nov 7, 2007, 15:12:

Quiubo, no Gabito estoy todavia en UK pero ya casi me voy ;-)

Bueno ManT ya lo vio en Youtube, por si lo quieres ver, solo puedo decir que me alegra que mi mamá no ve estos programas de Colombia...no me dejaria ir porque ponen lo peor de lo peor..

Para volar, es preciso tener resistencia. -M.Lin

Man Tequila says on Nov 7, 2007, 15:15:

The videos are no longer on YouTube due to a copyright claim by SKY. Possibly elsewhere on the web though?

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

Morrongo says on Nov 7, 2007, 15:33:

Cali :)

gabolicious says on Nov 7, 2007, 15:34:

ah bueno hágame un favor señorita... como muchas arepas por mi bueno? oye no te he podido escribir mi correo está jodido...

=(

Pero me cuando tengas tiempito me cuentas como te ha ido aunque sea en mi profile, bueno?

Te quiere

Gabo

"The new land of opportunities: Colombia!" ----- Mr Miguel_Clavo on PBH

la campiña says on Nov 7, 2007, 23:25:

why give the time of day to an eastenders thug, if you live here in colombia you want to leave that crap behind you

kalder says on Nov 8, 2007, 00:23:

I knew a bloke who went to drama school with him. He told me that Kemp is quite posh, quite the gentleman and a gifted actor.

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

LA_MONA says on Nov 8, 2007, 01:16:

Gabo OK fresco no pasa nada, despues cuando lo tengas arrgelado nos hablamos listo?

Y arepas? Bueno cuando estoy en Pereira los comere pero cuando estoy en Cali voy a comerme cuanta fritanga pueda y tamales jajaa

Para volar, es preciso tener resistencia. -M.Lin

LA_MONA says on Nov 8, 2007, 01:16:

Kalder yeah I noticed he was alot posher than in Eastenders!

Para volar, es preciso tener resistencia. -M.Lin

manINred says on Nov 8, 2007, 07:53:

I would find it hard to take anybody who starred in Eastenders seriously in a documentary setting!

How can I view this online,? this is very very useful for me, potentially.

kalder says on Nov 8, 2007, 08:09:

He comes over well.

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

LA_MONA says on Nov 8, 2007, 08:48:

ManlNred (you have a really fiddly name by the way lol) it probably wouldn't be that useful but I'll have a look on youtube and see, athough Man T said they've taken it off youtube...if I come up with anything I'll post it on your profile, bueno?

Para volar, es preciso tener resistencia. -M.Lin

kat1 (Moderator) says on Nov 8, 2007, 09:18:

mona i did a thread with this subject huh! hehehe go into my threads and someone post a video from youtube about this program

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Nov 8, 2007, 09:19:

opps sorry the video is not longer available.. copyrights maybe hummm

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Tinto (Moderator) says on Nov 8, 2007, 09:19:

Help me out here. I think of a "posh" hotel as upscale, refined, in good taste, high quality, expensive. Do my friends across the pond also use "posh" to describe a person? In that case does it mean well educated, polite and refined, but not necessarily wealthy?

LA_MONA says on Nov 8, 2007, 09:28:

Usually wealth is implicated. But yes it can describe a person too, it doesn't have much to do with being polite though, it's more to do with their class and money.

Para volar, es preciso tener resistencia. -M.Lin

LA_MONA says on Nov 8, 2007, 09:29:

A posh person is everything "posh" spice isn't except for the rich part, usually a posh person speaks with an upper class english accent.

Kalder what do you think?

Para volar, es preciso tener resistencia. -M.Lin

kat1 (Moderator) says on Nov 8, 2007, 09:32:

I will say mona is more for educated people, look at how many people here is rich but many said they are not posh, like Victoria Beckham, while someone that speak well, have been well educated and polite is considered Posh, like Hugh Grant (forget about his money) and I think family history plays a big part too.

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Monpirri says on Nov 8, 2007, 09:39:

Hola Mona,
Jajajajaj "Y arepas? Bueno cuando estoy en Pereira los comere pero cuando estoy en Cali voy a comerme cuanta fritanga pueda y tamales jajaa"

Que chistosa eres Mona Suprema jajajaja

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

LA_MONA says on Nov 8, 2007, 09:42:

Yeah Kat you're right about that, Hugh Grant is the epitome of posh.

Para volar, es preciso tener resistencia. -M.Lin

LA_MONA says on Nov 8, 2007, 09:42:

Monpi pues eso le dicen "picapulmon" jaja "vamos a pegarle al picapulmon?"

Que mas pelado?

Para volar, es preciso tener resistencia. -M.Lin

LA_MONA says on Nov 8, 2007, 09:45:

Kat but I know plenty of educated people, as a good education is relatively easy to get here.

But I'd say posh has more to do with being brought up in a well to do family, middle class. I've met some positively rude posh people, an ex boss comes to mind, bitch.

Para volar, es preciso tener resistencia. -M.Lin

Monpirri says on Nov 8, 2007, 09:48:

Oye pelaa, como sabes tantas cosas de Colombia. Que barbarida!!

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

kat1 (Moderator) says on Nov 8, 2007, 09:49:

lol Mona yes I agree but not necessarily have to be rich.

you don't have to be rich to be posh hehe sound like the advert

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LA_MONA says on Nov 8, 2007, 09:50:

Hay que estar atento y hay que grabar todos los dichos, cuando escucho algo nuevo mi esposo me mira y me dice "ya lo grabó?" jajaja

Para volar, es preciso tener resistencia. -M.Lin

Tinto (Moderator) says on Nov 8, 2007, 09:51:

Thanks. We use the word here, but to describe things or places, not people. I always smile when I hear it because I think of Simon and Minty on the BBC's "Posh Nosh."

Monpirri says on Nov 8, 2007, 09:52:

Jajjajaaja que verraquera de persona!
Cuidate Mona.

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

LA_MONA says on Nov 8, 2007, 10:02:

Tinto I do hope that's not where you get your recipe's from, daaahhhling.

Para volar, es preciso tener resistencia. -M.Lin

kat1 (Moderator) says on Nov 8, 2007, 10:03:

Tinto here is also use to describe places.

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Tinto (Moderator) says on Nov 8, 2007, 10:16:

Mona, Of course I do, but only when the Lear Jet is available for an overnight trip to Italy to pick up the essential ingredient - a special bottle of Tuscan cold pressed, extra virgin, unfiltered, organic olive oil, purchased three days after a full moon, from a deaf farmer with a three-legged dog.

;-)

LA_MONA says on Nov 8, 2007, 10:28:

Jajaja don't forget the air distilled water and the homeschooled chickens ;-)

Para volar, es preciso tener resistencia. -M.Lin

kalder says on Nov 8, 2007, 11:09:

Yes, I agree with you Mona.

You've summed it up succinctly.

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

LA_MONA says on Nov 8, 2007, 11:25:

Why thank you, old chap ;-)

Para volar, es preciso tener resistencia. -M.Lin

Cerealkiller says on Nov 8, 2007, 13:01:

Mona I saw the cartagena bit. You know whats funny though? If you go to YouTube and type Pirry Cartagena, you will find a really shocking documentary that was aired this past summer. And one of the gang members Ross kemp interviewed, is the same guy Pirry interviewed. However, on Kemp's interview he was an active gang member, fearless of paras and in the interview with Pirry he is part of a reinsertation program and works at a panaderia or something of the sort...It was very odd.

Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives -John Stuart Mill

Morrongo says on Nov 8, 2007, 13:14:

Why thank you,old bean:)

kat1 (Moderator) says on Nov 8, 2007, 13:15:

I heard about the pirry documentary, he showed the other face of Cartagena, that inclusive the major of cartagena considered him person non grata (SP):)) I think his camera was stolen but was recover by the police, I can't believe he is the same guy jajaa I also has my suspicious about the main para boss Ross Kemp interviewed , i don't think he is any boss.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Nov 8, 2007, 13:19:

Cronica de Pirry: LA REALIDAD DE CARTAGENA DE INDIA



this is part 1 you can see all parts in you tube

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LA_MONA says on Nov 8, 2007, 13:26:

Morrongo is it true what La Campiña said about you when you went to his get together? Apparently you're an important guy in Cali??

Para volar, es preciso tener resistencia. -M.Lin

LA_MONA says on Nov 8, 2007, 13:27:

That's strange indeed, CK I'll see if I can recognise him in the vid Kat's posted, you know I'm not well today and the TV is crap, not even anything to watch on Sky.

Para volar, es preciso tener resistencia. -M.Lin

kat1 (Moderator) says on Nov 8, 2007, 13:35:

Mona part three is shocking! hope you feel better soon :(

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manINred says on Nov 8, 2007, 21:32:

thanks LA_MONA, sounds good. Don't mind my name, you can call me whatever you feel like, I don't know what i was thinking when i came up with it, probably my footie teams

Actually Kalder, i shouldn't demean eastenders. I get semi-hooked everytime I'm in England. I watch it on the beeb with my grandparents who for some reason love it, even though they are the classical type. It was funny i was in Cornwall a few years ago for the first time and i loved it. One beautiful Cornish evening i was at a caravan park and i was outside... all of the caravans were occupied and in every window you would see people watching eastenders!!!

kalder says on Nov 9, 2007, 00:42:

15 years ago I was quite the avid watcher of Brookside and Emmerdale.

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

LA_MONA says on Nov 9, 2007, 01:28:

Eastenders? My sister in law loves it, I can't stand it!

Talk about depressing...I much prefer Pedro el Escamoso and Betty la fea ;-)

Para volar, es preciso tener resistencia. -M.Lin

kalder says on Nov 9, 2007, 02:24:

We've had 'El Clon' on in our house for weeks now. It's driving me round the bend.

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

Morrongo says on Nov 9, 2007, 06:39:

Mona dont know what la Campiña said..But I deny it anyway..Us Cornish are not famous for Eastenders ..problably trippers....although hearing about my County, I do miss a pasty...oggy.....trying to reproduce it Colombian style...Still working on it ! Ingredients have to be stop on.......