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Car Taxes in Bogotá

I have a 2007 Chevy Vivant...nothing special just a car. Actually a Japanese car. The car has Bogotá license plates Last year I paid around $200 for my auto tax which I thought was a complete rip off from what I paid in the U.S.

This year we just got our bill that says within three weeks I have to pay $400. What is this crap all about? Am I paying for Transmillenio by myself?

Does anyone know about this or have similar problems? Is there any appeal process which I am sure is a joke. This is one more explanation why Colombia is considered a Third World Country and will continue to be viewed that way. But then again Colombia doesn’t have AIG and Tim Gietner handing out millions of bonuses to people who failed in their jobs.

By Rikito on Mar 18, 2009, 05:54 in Friendly Talkzone.


webmanco says on Mar 18, 2009, 07:06:

Colombia is a third world country, happy watching soap operas, soccer games, beauty contest, the love affair between illegal groups and the Government, one can´t not live without the other, we are happy failing into the game of votes, love for a country, a flag, a religion, meanwhile the Goverment is raising costs to the working class.


The Goverment offering $15.000.000 pesos to anyone with information over whoever killed two priests over maybe $3.000.000 milion pesos.

If the money we pay in taxes and fines were used wisely we would have better pay jobs, we would be more educate and less prone to be victims of illegal acts.

Yes owners of private cars in a way do help massifing the public transportation system, the idea is to make expensier to own a car in order to force you to use public transportation, part of the money is suppose to be use to enhance the public transportation service.

No hay extremo cierto o verdadero, porque los extremos opacan, enruedan, (lavan cerebros) verdades. Yotas

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miamimike says on Mar 18, 2009, 07:42:

Tim Gietner handing out millions of bonuses to people who failed in their jobs.
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Don't forget this arrangement(if you are talking about AIG) was preconcocted under the auspices of the Bush Administration. Not to mention billions were already handed out to merril lynch as well as to other financial insitutions prior to Jan 20, 2009. Under the guidance of whose administration(bush v. obama) do we find ourselves in our(usa) current financial jam?

No hay Peor Ciego que el que no quiere Ver o Sordo que el que no quiera Oir--Soy Yo, Sarah Palin, Wasilla Alaska.

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Gator says on Mar 18, 2009, 07:47:

Did you fill out the forms correctly? here is a site you can fill in the blanks and determine the tax you owe http://impuestos.shd.gov.co/liquidadorvehiculos/lvehiculos.html .
As to the tax rate for your Chevrolet in Bogota sounds about right. The base to pay this tax is the commercial value of the vehicle that is fixed annually by the Ministry of Transportation through a Resolution. It will be more expensive that when you lived in Arminia.

Best be would be to contact the Alcaldía Mayor de Bogota, office of the Secretaría Distrital de Hacienda

"Bene, cum Latine nescias, nolo manus meas in te maculare" .

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ujay says on Mar 18, 2009, 08:17:

in the uk ,
Under 1549cc - £120 a year, Over 1549cc and it's £185 a year.
so 400 in colombia is really cheap.

http://www.jukelightning.com

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Rikito says on Mar 18, 2009, 08:17:

Why would it be more expensive in Armenia? And the public transportation in Colombia is dismal at best but certanily not the worst in the world over Greece and Cairo. Actuallly it won't have any impact on Public Transportation. The Pico/Placa idiocy doesn't nor will Pub Trans. You know it and the government knows this. The only way and I mean the only way is not to allow people to drive cars period. The only people it will hurt are people like my brother in law who owns a beater so he can go to work at a factory that has no Public Transportation within five miles. He gets up at 4 am to go to work everyday.

Anyway, I am not going to change anything here. Thanks for letting me vent. I just wanted to know if the amount was correct and it looks like it was. I would still like to know why it is more expensive in Armenia other than transferring the plates?

...and so it goes

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miamimike says on Mar 18, 2009, 08:30:

The Highly Sucesssful Bogota Transmilenio Rapid Bus system(public transportation) while in Colombia, is far from 3rd world. And it has removed a lot of cars from the streets in Bogota. Miami is studying the Transmilenio as an economically viable alternative to light rail here in Miami. Anything to get all these cars off our streets and reduce noise and pollution.And Stress,,,

No hay Peor Ciego que el que no quiere Ver o Sordo que el que no quiera Oir--Soy Yo, Sarah Palin, Wasilla Alaska.

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webmanco says on Mar 18, 2009, 08:32:

The older the car the cheaper.

No hay extremo cierto o verdadero, porque los extremos opacan, enruedan, (lavan cerebros) verdades. Yotas

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pavo says on Mar 18, 2009, 08:39:

What is the value of the car? I have one that is valued at 33 million and the tax came at 483,000

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ujay says on Mar 18, 2009, 08:41:

well here its no good having a car ,you cant park any where....

Insiders Only

And the town does its best to enforce that privacy. "There is no parking on any street in Brookville," said Mayor Caroline Bazzini. "So in order to come and be here in Brookville, you need to know the people."

http://www.jukelightning.com

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mranderson says on Mar 18, 2009, 08:42:

Rikito, your bill is for 400 dollars??

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ujay says on Mar 18, 2009, 08:45:

well now he knows how much to charge for his english classes,ja ja ja .................

http://www.jukelightning.com

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Gator says on Mar 18, 2009, 08:46:

Rikio, Didn't you recently post about getting ripped off by insurance also.

"Bene, cum Latine nescias, nolo manus meas in te maculare" .

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vicshere says on Mar 18, 2009, 10:01:

hahahaha i am paying 1,800 per year on my motorbike
my car about 130,000 per year

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vicshere says on Mar 18, 2009, 10:02:

another advantage of having older autos

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Rikito says on Mar 18, 2009, 15:42:

yes...$400USD..and no I did not write anything about insurance rip off. I am very happy with mine. The price is fair and my agent a neighbor is hot, very hot.

My car was taxed at $200USD last year and this year it is a year older and the rate is doubled. So the rule that the older the car the cheaper the rate is a myth.

Yes Transmillenio is a great thing for Bogotá but why double the rate? Isn't TransM the only government provided mass transit in Bogotá?

...and so it goes

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webmanco says on Mar 19, 2009, 09:25:

The older the cheaper, it can even be free



carro esferado o de balineras

No hay extremo cierto o verdadero, porque los extremos opacan, enruedan, (lavan cerebros) verdades. Yotas

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poco says on Mar 19, 2009, 11:22:

Quote: Don't forget this arrangement(if you are talking about AIG) was preconcocted under the auspices of the Bush Administration
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Sorry, but Tim Geithner (Turbo Tax Tim) was in on the deal when he was President of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. He was a tax evader until Obama nominated him. Actually,, Obamas nominations have resulted in the collection of 150,000 dollars in back taxes from his nominees.

Need links ?

Colombian Chickens are crowing about the new President of the U.S. who will assure that From each according to their ability to each according to their need.

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poco says on Mar 19, 2009, 13:53:

Quote: Tim Geithner (Turbo Tax Tim) was in on the deal when he was President of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.
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News Flash !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! just a few minutes ago,, Turbo Tax Tim admitted he was the one who said it was OK for AIG to give bonuses and got Senator Dodd to but the "protection" in the NEW,, porked up stimulus package. !!!!

http://www.courant.com/business/hc-aig-dodd-bonus-0319.artmar19,0,2281...
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Dodd, chairman of the Senate Banking Committee, also acknowledged Wednesday his role in controversy, after previously denying having anything to do with crafting language that permitted the bonuses.
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Previously Denying? Oh,, who told him he was probably caught.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/03/19/aig.bonuses.congress/index.html...
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Damn,, looks like shit happens,, as usual
http://community.livejournal.com/ontd_political/2584008.html

Colombian Chickens are crowing about the new President of the U.S. who will assure that From each according to their ability to each according to their need.

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miamimike says on Mar 19, 2009, 15:07:

Poco--for your eyes, carefully read and note the Sept 17, 2008 date, The AIG Bailout occurred on Bush's watch. You may choose not to believe that your choice, the facts cannot be disputed. Suggest you consult the Congressional record if you are so moved to do so;

http://www.upi.com/news/issueoftheday/2008/09/17/Analysis_After_AIG_wh..."> WASHINGTON, Sept. 17 (UPI) -- The Bush administration faced another High Noon on Wall Street and backed down again Tuesday: *****It has bailed out the gigantic American International Group (NYSE:AFF) to the tune of $85 billion.******

The unprecedented intervention came only two days after Black Sunday, when the 158-year-old Lehman Brothers and Merrill Lynch (NYSE:MER), two of the most venerated names in Wall Street finance, both disappeared from the global scene. Lehman went belly up and Merrill Lynch had to be swallowed by the Bank of America. And as we predicted in these columns Monday, more giants are falling fast.

The AIG deal leaves the U.S. government owning 79.9 percent of the company's equity -- and it is not even a government-sponsored enterprise like Fannie Mae (NYSE:FNM) and Freddie Mac (NYSE:FRE), the two mortgage giants that financed 70 percent of the U.S. housing market. In this Black September, the conservative, supposedly free-market Bush administration already has bailed them out, too.




Bush, for all his professed admiration of President Ronald Reagan, has never shown the slightest awareness that Reagan and his legendary Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker broke the back of the great inflation of the 1970s by allowing interest rates to soar sky high, restoring international investor confidence in the U.S. economy and government.

By contrast, the succession of panic-driven gigantic bailouts that Bush and his Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson have pushed through are bound to have the opposite effect: They raise the infinitely worse specter of a collapse of investor confidence in the U.S. government itself.

The AIG bailout also begs the question of who is going to get more bailouts and who won't. ******Effectively, Bush has put the U.S. government in the position where it now decides which companies are essential and which are not. ******De facto socialism on the British and Swedish model has now taken control of what economic analyst and historian Daniel Yergin called "the commanding heights" of the U.S. economy.

No hay Peor Ciego que el que no quiere Ver o Sordo que el que no quiera Oir--Soy Yo, Sarah Palin, Wasilla Alaska.

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adrimm (Moderator) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Mar 19, 2009, 17:56:

Bogota has much less road-space per person and much less road-space per business than anywhere in North America. The idea is make driving as difficult as possible while providing alternatives (ie TransMilenio) so that as the population booms a significant portion moves by public transit and commercial traffic can still function. Bogota had a population of 1 million in 1950 and something like 7 million today.

Unfortunately they need to finish TransMilenio - the idea is sound (it is international best-practices easily world class) but the network is only about 1/3 complete and at that, perhaps suck it up and add even more line density. They also need to start focusing on creating more walkable communities and establish traditional-form mini downtowns (but with wide sidewalks) and clean-industrial areas around the newer districts in the western plateau. Right now it appears that the brunt of the workforce has to commute to the spine that runs N-S in the east-most part of the city.

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