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Can a Colombian with a U.S. Green Card Travel to Third Countries as a U.S. Citizen Would?

I did some searching in the ol' Search Box top right, but I couldn't quite find any past posts that addressed this directly enough. I'm in the K-1 visa gauntlet right now, well my fiancee is anyways, and we were wondering if, once we get married and she gets her green card, what her travel abilities will be. I guess she'd still be a Colombian citizen right (in the short term anyways)? So does that mean it won't be any easier for her to travel to third countries (e.g. Jamaica) even once we're married and she's got the green card?

By august on Jul 24, 2009, 17:32 in Visa & paperwork.


redwood22 says on Jul 24, 2009, 17:40:

Nope. My wife is colombian and she still needs the visa to travel abroad. You have to wait either 3 or 5 years until she can apply for citizenship. She still needs to use the Colombian passport. Also, I would advise against changing her last name or else you have to get some official slip that shows her change of last name to include in the passport. It can be a hassle.

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RAAAY says on Jul 24, 2009, 17:58:

If you are flying to Jamica and other Carribean islands, you " might " not have a problem. It seems that the airline is more interested in if you have a green card to return to the US, so maybe their immigration people will still accept it also. What redwood says seems correct, but it might be worth a call to the airline. Up until recently, you didn't even need a passport, if flying from the US to a lot of these places. You never know.........worth making a call.


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utopiacowboy says on Jul 24, 2009, 18:00:

No visa needed to Canada or Mexico for a Colombian citizen who is a US green card holder. How do I know? My wife has done it. I don't know about other countries but many of them have policies similar to that of Canada and Mexico.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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RAAAY says on Jul 24, 2009, 18:51:

UT..........That was due to be changed..............there was a date set where passports were to be required for Mexico etc..........but it was postponed..............I'm not sure if it has been enforced yet............


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ranaquajo (☼Travelguide writer) says on Jul 24, 2009, 19:18:

"Effective June 1, 2009, all U.S. citizens are now required to present a passport book, passport card, or WHTI-compliant document when entering the United States."

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cbpmc/cbpmc_2223.html

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Gator says on Jul 24, 2009, 19:44:

To cut to the chase: A Green Card is not an accepted travel document. She will need need a valid passport and/or visa.

1. Until she naturalizes and is eligible for a US passport she will have to travel on her Colombian passport.
2. In genera;l she will be subject to the visa rules of the countries visited.
3. The "short term" will be a minimum of three years until she can apply for US Citizenship and, being realistic, closer to fours years.
4. You need to check on Mexico and Canada travel-I understand there were changes effective 9 July
5. Last but NOT least do NOT attempted any travel out-of-country until; she has the green card in hand.

"Bene, cum Latine nescias, nolo manus meas in te maculare" .

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utopiacowboy says on Jul 24, 2009, 20:14:

So much misinformation. So little time. From the Canadian government website (http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/visit/visas.asp):

"Many people do not require a visa to visit Canada. These include:
* persons lawfully admitted to the United States for permanent residence who are in possession of their alien registration card (Green card) or can provide other evidence of permanent residence;"

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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utopiacowboy says on Jul 24, 2009, 20:29:

From the Mexican government website(http://portal.sre.gob.mx/was_eng/index.php?option=displaypage&Item...):

"Permanent legal residents of the US and Canada

All legal permanent residents of Canada and the United Sates, regardless of their nationality, if in possession of a so-called green card (now they are pink), or its Canadian equivalent, do not have to go through the process of applying to Mexico City for their entry permit nor do they need the stamp on their passports. They can be issued the tourist card on board the aircraft or at the port of entry to be able to travel to Mexico as tourists, in transit, or for short business trips.

THEY MUST CARRY WITH THEM THEIR VALID PASSPORT AND THEIR GREEN OR PINK PERMANENT RESIDENT CARD ISSUED BY THE U.S.A. GOVERNMENT OR THE CANADIAN EQUIVALENT."

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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Robert Jorge says on Jul 24, 2009, 23:08:

I know more than one Colombian who came to the US on a valid / current US tourist visa, and with that (in their passport) were able to go on Carribean cruises out of Miami including stops in Cancun. They had no Mexican visa. No problems. As recent as 9 months ago.

"You can not take the barrio out of the girl you really can't." Oneforamillion

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lpdiver says on Jul 24, 2009, 23:42:

Well the times they are a changin...to quote Bob.

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Cheers Terry says on Jul 25, 2009, 02:39:

I've never done it with a Colombian but I bring other foreign nationals into Canada all the time with their Passports and Green Cards, no problems. If they didn't have a Green Card they couldn't enter Canada.

Cheers,
Terry

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winsurfer says on Jul 25, 2009, 11:42:

My wife and I were married for 16 years before she became a US citizen. (Pre 9/11, thank God.)
We took many vacations to Jamaica, me on my US passport, her on her Colombian passport (with
green card), and made all of our kids there.

Jamaica...where reentry is no problem. Try the goat's head soup.

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jc22ny says on Jul 25, 2009, 21:05:

Hey....
Yes she would still Need a Visa for Many Countries
along with Canada and Mexico
With a Valid Greencard she will be able to Travel Visa Free to
Aruba
Bahamas
Bonaire
Curacao
Cayman islands
Costa Rica
Dominican Republic
El Salvador
Guatemala
Honduras
Jamaica
Nicaragua
Turks and Caicos
British Virgin islands

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august says on Jul 26, 2009, 00:16:

Quality info there folks - much appreciated!

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