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Well I just got back from Cali and it was a very interesting and enjoyable trip to say the least. I would like to brag about how dangerous it was and how I bearly made it out alive but the only thing that got stolen was my heart.
I do think I met one of Desi's friends. I didn't really think that they existed but sure enough I found one. I met this forty something year old woman while I was sitting having a beer at Regge y Pop. She asked me to move over one stool so she and her nephew could sit together at the bar. She spoke good english and her nephew was a 22 year old guy who hadn't been to Colombia in 14 years. He is about to graduate from college and believe it or not was looking for a colombian girlfriend to meet and eventually get married. It appears even well to do Colombianos come back to Cali to find a bride.
Anyway I told the guy that he was in the right place. I told him that I hadn't been in town a week and had found myself a new 19 year old girlfriend. Desi's friend seemed shocked. She says " you mean you met a girl that is a friend" and I told her that, that wasn't exactly how I would describe her. I told her that she was my girlfriend in every sense of the word. She told me that I didn't know what I was doing and that I should know a girls family and where she lives before you get involved with a girl. She also told me that since I was forty two and she was nineteen that the relationship didn't have a chance to last. I told her I'm not worried about it. I told her I'm american and we believe in serial monogamy. Both of my parents where married five times believe it or not.
She asked me why don't you at least go out with a woman that is 25 so the relationship has a chance. I told her that I'm not looking to increase my odds on longevity in a relationship. I told her that I plan on bring one more caleña to the states before I start living part time in Cali and I think that young beautiful women have so much more to gain by coming to the states than an older woman.
Well that is the way I justify it to myself anyway. I'm sure some of you will still think of me as a dirty old geezer. hehehe!!
Well you should have heard the crap that she was laying on her nephew. About how he should met a girl from an up scale barrio and that comes from a good and respected family. She was worried about him going to a concert that only had 40,000 peso admission fee because she thought there might be some trouble with low class people. So she had bougth him tickets to a concert that cost 100,000 pesos.
I couldn't believe it. I told her that I went to the free concerts that they have on Colombia's independence day and met a hell of a lot of nice people there. I told the young guy that if he listens to his aunt he is probably going to have trouble finding a grilfriend in the month that he planned on spending in Cali. I told him that he comes from a relatively classless society in the States compared to Colomibia and that he should take advantage of it. I told him to concentrate on the person and not on what economic level they are at.
I told him that poorer colombians are different and that they have diffent view of the world. They feel grateful instead of intitled for everything they recieve in life. Then his aunt chimmed in "you know if I feel like going out and having shrimp, I just go and do it; I don't have to wait for a guy to take me out". Bing Go! This is when I knew I was talking to Desi's friend. I told her but surely you realize that 80% of the female population in Cali is waiting for a guy to ask them out to dinner.
I'm going to try and explain the differences between americans and the average colombian in a very analytical and over simplified way that really is an insult to colombianos but it is probably the only way some of you are going to get it.
I had a conversation with my caleña wife at the time. I asked her if she really believed that she loved her mother more than I loved mine because she called her mother everyday and I only called mine once or twice a week and visted her about once a month eventhough we lived in the same city. She told me "yes" that she believed she loved not only her mother more but her entire family more. She told me that she didn't believe that americans loved their families as much because they don't take the time to spend every chance they can together.
I told her she was crazy that amercians do love thier families just as much as Colombianos. They just don't need them as much. I told her that in Colombia your family is your social net and that in the States we don't need each others help as much. I told her that spending every holiday with your family was really a survival mechanism. Well she told me that I was crazy. I think I'm rigth but I do believe that my ex-wife really does believe she loves here family more.
Where the hell am I going with all this? Well I tell you that with the social and economic make up of colombia, that women really, really do need a man in their lives more that american women do. But, if you ask (almost) any caleña they will tell you that they love men more than americanas and you know they might be right.
I have posted a couple of photos of my last trip to Cali. Go to www.picturetrail.com, type in member name calipro and then go to the album titled: Calbagata and friends.
Considering the shutter speed this is about a two second look into the like of Calipro. What does your's look like?
By calipro on Dec 28, 2004, 13:20 in Friendly Talkzone.
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Greg444 says on Dec 28, 2004, 14:03: Nice photos
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utopiacowboy says on Dec 28, 2004, 14:04: That was when he had her fully inflated. Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Greg444 says on Dec 28, 2004, 14:12: Yes , Cali the girls are extroverted and more exotic then Medellin.
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thundernco says on Dec 28, 2004, 14:50: Classic, I would have loved to witness that conversation. As always, great pics CP. It was rough, watching coverage of the feria on TV Colombia and not being able to participate. Take care, and as usual, send me an email for access on the rest. -TNC
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calipro says on Dec 28, 2004, 15:26: Sorry guys..... There are some unhappy campers out there. I had to password protect the album. If you send me a private message I will send it to you if I recognize the name.
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elmodefoque says on Dec 29, 2004, 05:04: hey calipro, let's see the colombian broads. over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one. CURRAMBA, EL MEJOR VIVIDERO DEL MUNDO! 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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elmodefoque says on Dec 29, 2004, 05:39: Calipro, thanks!! Those mafia princesses are not bad and that’s a great picture of your girl in bed, I could almost see her liver, it looks like you hit a home run with bases loaded, congrats! over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one. CURRAMBA, EL MEJOR VIVIDERO DEL MUNDO! 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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calipro says on Dec 29, 2004, 07:01: elmodefoque I was reading some of the posts made while I was in Cali and I think the hairy armpit feminist burn themselves out with statements like this:
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Greg444 says on Dec 29, 2004, 07:29: Who are the unhappy campers?? nice fotos, although a couple kind of provocative.
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Desideria (Moderator) says on Dec 29, 2004, 08:45: hey calipro with all those young girls in Cali not giving you a moment's rest and all you could think about was Desi and her friends...;)... "I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Lauthra says on Dec 29, 2004, 10:00: Damn! Too bad we didn't see you, I wanted to see your face, but with all the old ugly leering americans, it was hard to know which one was you. Nato (='.'=) 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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oldbongo says on Dec 29, 2004, 10:14: estimado senora... that was plain nasty....
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elmodefoque says on Dec 29, 2004, 11:07: calipro, i think we spoke to soon, get ready to have another asshole, i got 3 already, how many do you have? must be a lot by now. over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one. CURRAMBA, EL MEJOR VIVIDERO DEL MUNDO! 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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calipro says on Dec 29, 2004, 17:59: Wow !! Lauthra
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utopiacowboy says on Dec 29, 2004, 18:30: Your comments about having three assholes reminds me of an old joke. Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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greenday says on Dec 30, 2004, 05:58: Lauthra I've seen pictures of your man......now, he ain't all that and a bag of chips.......
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Lauthra says on Dec 30, 2004, 08:10: 'Where does all your hate for americans come from?' Nato (='.'=) 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Lauthra says on Dec 30, 2004, 08:11: Greenday What a cheap shot. How about you post some pictures of yourself and let the competition begin... Nato (='.'=) 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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greenday says on Dec 30, 2004, 08:18: lauthra cheap shot?? why heavens no..not any more than the ones you made above.........just an opinion.......sorry......never said I was good looking, in fact, I'm quite ugly, but that doesn't mean no one else can be judged ugly by me.
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Desideria (Moderator) says on Dec 30, 2004, 11:10: hey nato good to hear from you guys! Please post pictures when you get back to B/tá. Hope you're enjoying yourselves, "I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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calipro says on Dec 30, 2004, 12:01: Lauthra "Accusing me of generalising and then doing the same yourself isn't going to win you any awards for brains, not to mention we've already established that there's plenty of Americans on here who don't want anything to do with you. Best if you only speak for yourself in future."
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caslug says on Dec 30, 2004, 12:44: Old..Ugly..Leering..Americans??? Hey I take offense to that. I met young good looking leering americans in COL, so there not all old & ugly. LOL. Seriously, have you checked out Mr. Babillas in Zona Rosa on the weekends? It's fully of young & old, good looking, average, & ugly, leering, Americans, Colombians, AND other foreigners. So don't say Americans are the dominate leering people here.
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Desideria (Moderator) says on Dec 30, 2004, 13:03: nah, you're dead wrong caslug. Only old, fat gringos leer. Young, handsome Colombianos check out the girls, flirt but they don't leer. "I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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utopiacowboy says on Dec 30, 2004, 13:08: Those old, fat gringos. Damm, they're disgusting. They're much worse than the old, skinny ones or the young fat ones. Or the young, skinny ones. Is there anyone I left out? Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Lauthra says on Dec 31, 2004, 08:45: Blah I will not get into this tedious 'debate' again. Calipro has proven to contradict himself in every other line (See Aura and Calipro). I also have far more entertaining things to do while in the nice weather of Cali. Nato (='.'=) 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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utopiacowboy says on Dec 31, 2004, 09:22: Come on, Nato, don't hold back. Admit it, you'd like to castrate all of us and feed our cajones to the dogs. Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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calipro says on Dec 31, 2004, 12:23: Why Lauthra?? "Nevertheless, to set the record straigh, when I said 'fat ugly leering americans', I didn't mean ALL americans (U.S.) are, just that Calipro (sorry truth hurts) falls into that category."
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greenday says on Dec 31, 2004, 13:57: lauthra seems Lauthra is just an unhappy person.....maybe she's just not satisfied with a few things in her life, so when she sees someone enjoying life to the fullest, she lashes out.......what is it you're unhappy with Lauthra??? Hopefully it's not your "man".......
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Save the Wildcats says on Dec 31, 2004, 15:48: Hi Calipro.... Welcome back! I'm glad you had a good time. Did you take any scenery pics? Would love to see them. I'm kind of nervous about looking about the people pics due to someone's comment about the liver, but would love to see any other pics you took!
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Lauthra says on Jan 1, 2005, 16:44: Funny how everyone is doing what they've accused me of doing, generalising, and making random and absurd statements about me. It goes without saying that I hate stupid people, and that I'm opiniated. I'm sorry I came across as insulting, but I was just stating the obvious. Nato (='.'=) 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Lionheart says on Jan 1, 2005, 16:52: Nato Think about my New Year's resolution I started over a week ago:
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utopiacowboy says on Jan 1, 2005, 18:21: Nice comeback, Nato. Maybe you should feed them our assholes - then they'd really be well-fed!!!!!!!! Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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greenday says on Jan 2, 2005, 06:46: Lauthra is your "man" writing your posts for you?? just curious........
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Save the Wildcats says on Jan 2, 2005, 08:03: Lionheart... what a great resolution! That is mine too and so far it's working well.
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utopiacowboy says on Jan 2, 2005, 09:27: But, Lionheart, 98% of the stuff on the board is absurd, stupid and senseless. Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Greg444 says on Jan 2, 2005, 15:23: Nice photos Calipro,
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Lauthra says on Jan 3, 2005, 09:13: Why? Can't handle an intelligent and eloquent woman? Besides, if he was writting my posts, they'd be 5 times as long and winded...oh and insulting of course! Nato (='.'=) 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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greenday says on Jan 3, 2005, 09:25: Lauthra I just called my 5 year old nephew, he told me to tell you that the word "writing" only has one "t", not two..........
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elmodefoque says on Jan 3, 2005, 11:05: Damn greenday, very nice come back, but can I give a little advice. Please don’t get a Colombian native girl mad at you. Walking around with an extra asshole will be the least of your problem. Have you seen what FARC girls do to prisoners? I have personally not witness any of their doings but my young male relatives, present and ex Colombians soldiers have told me shit that made me pissed my pants from fear. Lots of Colombianas carry that Indian blood buried deep inside but when it comes out, look out. over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one. CURRAMBA, EL MEJOR VIVIDERO DEL MUNDO! 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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elmodefoque says on Jan 3, 2005, 11:08: damn, i forgot why i'm here. calipro, my buddy wants to see your pics. can i have your password once again, thanks!! you are very popular with most of my horny gringo buddies. so you know, i also show them pics of my grils. over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one. CURRAMBA, EL MEJOR VIVIDERO DEL MUNDO! 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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greenday says on Jan 3, 2005, 11:37: elmo I hear ya!!!!! why do you think I bust her chops over the internet??, I'd NEVER do it in person, I'm too afraid of the latin temper.........hey I've got an ex who's Caleña, and about 15 girlfriends, Costeñas, Caleñas and Paisas.....believe me, I never get them mad, nor give them a reason to get mad. Only problem is one day I'm gonna have to settle down and choose one, then the shit is gonna hit the fan!
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elmodefoque says on Jan 3, 2005, 11:41: not only shit, but pieces of flesh, jajajajajaj over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one. CURRAMBA, EL MEJOR VIVIDERO DEL MUNDO! 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Lauthra says on Jan 3, 2005, 13:15: If you’re falling that low, I might as well follow you. Good, you’ve proven to have a smart nephew, probably adopted. But tell your nephew to try and speak 2 languages fluently, maybe he’ll ask you “There are other languages?� Nato (='.'=) 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jan 4, 2005, 03:26: found'em! http://elpais-cali.terra.com.co/paisonline/feria/cal.php "I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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stevens says on Jan 4, 2005, 04:29: Calipro My new year's resolution was to swear off Internet porn and so far so good, well mostly. So if you'd please give me the entry code I won't be tempted to break my vow. It'll be social research. Thank you very much. They must be pretty: otherwise, the "ladies" wouldn't be so pissed.
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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jan 4, 2005, 04:44: stevens You can do plenty of "social research" in the address above, no need for password. I'm not pissed at all, ok, yes a little bit, but not because of calipro has published pictures of Cali girls (borrowed, rented or own), but rather on behalf of nato (lauthra) being under an infantile and petty personal attack. "I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Lauthra says on Jan 4, 2005, 08:24: Bah I didn't even get to see the pictures, but given Calipro's poor taste, I bet I didn't miss out on much. Nato (='.'=) 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jan 4, 2005, 08:38: I agree nato, you were doing just fine. That's why I didn't feel I had to jump in that fight at all, even if greenday's pettiness (spelling police of this board) did irritate me too. "I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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carlitos says on Jan 4, 2005, 08:40: curious Calipro,
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elmodefoque says on Jan 4, 2005, 08:54: get in line, i'm waiting for get on line, i'm waiting for the password too! over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one. CURRAMBA, EL MEJOR VIVIDERO DEL MUNDO! 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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elmodefoque says on Jan 4, 2005, 09:05: A quick correction, I’m not that interested in Calipro’s girls, I prefer white señoritas, but the guys here at work are into that Caleña type, or very ethnic looking broads. I told them that in my village they got tons of them, but you won’t see any skin; the girls are covered from head to toe. My colombianas gotta have that Barranquillera Sofia Vergara look. over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one. CURRAMBA, EL MEJOR VIVIDERO DEL MUNDO! 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Lionheart says on Jan 4, 2005, 13:56: Desi I visted Sweden several times for work and vacation, and Norway as well. I was surprised to see not more blonds than in any average German city. In Oslo the hair color majority was definitely brunette. Not saying Elmo wouldn't be able to find one ... he just needs to find an excuse to fly there.
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greenday says on Jan 4, 2005, 14:07: Lauthra own me??? Por favor mijita.......better start saving your money now. Let's just say you could work till your 90, and not spend a dime, and still you would not have enough money to own me.
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joesmoe says on Jan 4, 2005, 22:07: Where's the Beef? Calipro:
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Lauthra says on Jan 5, 2005, 11:53: Si I wish Colombian women would stick to their nature. Will be leaving soon, and must admit we're looking forward to the cold and grey Bogotá, we had our dose of sun and heat for 2005. Happy New Year to you too Desi :) Nato (='.'=) 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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utopiacowboy says on Jan 6, 2005, 17:57: What did you mean when you said, "I wish Colombian women would stick to their nature."? I wasn't at all sure what you meant by that. I'm not looking for an opportunity to slam you, just curious. Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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elmodefoque says on Jan 7, 2005, 04:33: calipro, it works!! i thank you and my buddies thank you too! over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one. CURRAMBA, EL MEJOR VIVIDERO DEL MUNDO! 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Lauthra says on Jan 7, 2005, 15:01: Utopia Maybe my english betrayed me. I meant they should keep their natural hair colour, brunette on most cases. Re-reading my message, you're right, it didn't make much sense. Nato (='.'=) 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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utopiacowboy says on Jan 7, 2005, 15:08: Since I love brunettes, I must agree with you, Nato. The guys who love blondes will probably disagree. Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jan 7, 2005, 15:15: I agree even if I don't have any preferences, I think people ought to be proud of what they are. These Cali brunettes would probably be a big hit here in the North, or what d'ya think yep? "I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Lauthra says on Jan 7, 2005, 15:22: Brunettes rock! Some try so hard, and it still ends up looking so god-damn fake! I don't mind blondes, I just hate fake blondes! Especially the ones that blonde just doesn't suit them. Nato (='.'=) 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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greenday says on Jan 7, 2005, 17:31: Lauthra I hope you don't consider me part of your "hate" club......I actually think you are very chevere.....I'd like to see you as a blond, I think you'd be very hot......kind of like Shakira.....you can't say she doesn't look good as a "fake" blond. Also please excuse me if I used too many dots between phrases....it's just my lack of formal education, God I wish I had stayed in school........
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YEP says on Jan 7, 2005, 17:51: Des .... I'll investigate that "brunette" matter closely when I get to the "scene of crime" ;-) ------------------------------------------------------------------- Just another scandinavian getting ready to explore South America 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Lauthra says on Jan 7, 2005, 18:55: HA! Shakira doesn't look like a fake blonde? Dear God beans and caramel go better together! I would never ever ever dye my lovely long black hair any colour, at laest until grey hairs start showing... Still a few years away. Nato (='.'=) 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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YEP says on Jan 7, 2005, 21:08: Please ... what happend to the concept of aging with graze ------------------------------------------------------------------- Just another scandinavian getting ready to explore South America 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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greenday says on Jan 8, 2005, 03:28: Lauthra You are struggling with your english again. I said
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Lauthra says on Jan 8, 2005, 07:14: Ah! I get it now. Damn it, I spoke to much spanish in Cali, I have to go back to my 'only english policy', or just read more carefuly :P Nato (='.'=) 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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calipro says on Jan 9, 2005, 17:44: Lauthra I'm not so sure you get it. So here's a little test:
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