Bogota's Born In Miami Mayor Eyes Presidency

tejasmarcos says on Jan 31, 2008, 05:34:

he sounds like he may turn out to be a good mayor, but he makes me nervous as a candidate for president.

*** fajardo para presidente en 2011!

trying to walk a straight line on sour mash and cheap wine...

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Mononoke28 says on Jan 31, 2008, 10:34:

Wasn't Barco another guy born in the States who ended president?

Diana

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Rob77 says on Jan 31, 2008, 10:47:

Barco studied in the states. I think it was MIT.


Tejas, don't you mean 2010? . . . Agreed, FAJARDO FOR PRESIDENT 2010,

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chester says on Jan 31, 2008, 10:50:

I thought the mayor of Medellin was a favorite?

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Rob77 says on Jan 31, 2008, 11:00:

Fajardo was mayor of Medellin. He recently finished his term. He was selected as one of Colombia's best mayors. His assistant was elected to replace him.

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ColombianoGringo says on Jan 31, 2008, 11:10:

As a "footnote"...

Many people in Colombia feel that Rojas Pinilla had his reelection bid in 1970 fraudulently stolen from him. Many of his disgruntled supporters formed a political movement that eventually gave birth to the M-19 guerilla.

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Rob77 says on Jan 31, 2008, 11:23:

And some of them are now in congress, including Navarro.

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adrimm says on Jan 31, 2008, 11:26:

I still am very sad that they didn't elect Penalosa for Bogota mayor.

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Sr Tertius says on Jan 31, 2008, 11:40:

Virigilio Barco was cucuteño. I think his daughter, the current ambassador in the US, was born in the US while her father was in MIT.

"When the finger points to the moon, the fool looks at the finger" (Chinese proverb)

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juancegomez says on Jan 31, 2008, 15:53:

Way too early for Samuel Moreno to have anything resembling a realistic chance at the presidency...he's just started his term as mayor, which could be a success, a failure or something in between. Too soon to tell.

As for General Rojas Pinilla...I think the myth is larger than the man, as tends to happen in these cases.

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Mononoke28 says on Feb 1, 2008, 07:54:

True. He just became Bogotá's mayor and I wouldn't want to have a guy to start thinking about being president when he's barely the mayor. Concentrate on your job first, show what you "can" do or others "will do" for you and then think about doing something else.

Diana

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tejasmarcos says on Feb 1, 2008, 07:58:

rob77 - is it 2010? it think moreno needs two terms to prove he's got what it takes to even be a candidate.

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Sr Tertius says on Feb 1, 2008, 17:15:

Fortunately, the PDA is the only semi-serious political party (emphasize "semi") in Colombia that is not based on individual achievements but on political platform--although not completely. Lucho Garzón's approval ratings were readily transferred to Samuel Moreno, something that, for instance, Uribe will have a lot of difficulty doing. Most likely, if Moreno does a good job, those points will count for the PDA's next presidential candidate, which may be Lucho, Petro, Navarro, or Carlos Gaviria, but not for Moreno himself--maybe later, but that's looking way too far into the future.

"When the finger points to the moon, the fool looks at the finger" (Chinese proverb)

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Rikito says on Feb 2, 2008, 07:28:

Help me here. If POLO, the political party that Moreno belongs to only gets 2%-3% of the vote in national elections how on earth can they get one of thier candidates elected President?

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Sr Tertius says on Feb 2, 2008, 07:36:

2-3%? Where the hell did you get those numbers from? (seriously, where?)

PDA obtained 22% of the presidential votes in 2006, second only to Uribe's "party"

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Rikito says on Feb 2, 2008, 10:50:

maybe in bogota, but not nationally.

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Sr Tertius says on Feb 2, 2008, 11:01:

Nationally, 22%. Bogota, 23%. Check with Registraduria if you don't believe me.

Thanks for letting me know where you got data that is wrong by an order of magnitude.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Feb 2, 2008, 11:02:

Resultados [editar]Boletín 32 (28.05.2006 23:27 - 04:14 UTC -, 99,86% de las mesas escrutadas)

Candidato Partido Votos %
�lvaro Uribe Vélez Primero Colombia 7.363.421 62,20%
Carlos Gaviria Díaz Polo Democrático Alternativo 2.609.412 22,04%
Horacio Serpa Uribe Partido Liberal Colombiano 1.401.173 11,84%
Antanas Mockus Alianza Social Indígena 146.540 1,24%
Enrique Parejo González Reconstrucción Democrática Nacional 44.610 0,38%
�lvaro Leyva Movimiento Nacional de Reconciliación 22.039 0,19%
Carlos Rincón Movimiento Comunal y Comunitario 20.477 0,17%
Votos blancos 230.749 1,95%
Total de votos válidos 12.058.788
Votos nulos 136.326
Tarjetas no marcadas 84.041
Total de votos escrutados 12.058.788
Total de votantes habilitados 26.731.700 (abstención de 54,89%)

Fuente: http://www.registraduria.gov.co/ ([1])

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Rikito says on Feb 2, 2008, 11:06:

Mea Culpa...don't know where the 2% came from. But, a 22% amount with a 45% turnout really makes the 22% considerabl less. I read somewhere that nationally only about 2%-3% of people identified with POLO.

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Sr Tertius says on Feb 2, 2008, 11:25:

Abstention affects all candidates by the same factor.

Party affiliation in Colombia is extremely low. According to the last Gallup poll, 66% consider that they don't have a party, 14% are Liberal, 7% Conservative, 7% La U, 2% PDA, 1% Cambio Radical, and 1% Other. Maybe that's where you got that number, but by that count, Uribe's official party, "Primero Colombia" didn't even make it above 1%. There's no correlation between party affiliation and presidential potential.

"When the finger points to the moon, the fool looks at the finger" (Chinese proverb)

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Rikito says on Feb 2, 2008, 11:35:

Ok...you know more about this stuff than I do.

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