Bogota Video Request

miamimike says on Apr 26, 2007, 04:43:

Miami Dade County Transit Authority May Be using the Transmilenio as a Concept for reducing congestion so I don't know if they might have a clip or not. I know its being studied,,,

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JMCana says on Apr 26, 2007, 05:09:

The transportation in Bogota and surrounding areas is interesting. Talking about it brings as many opinions and emotions as discussing religion or politics. And much is due to each person's experience. Rubito for instance loves the TM. IMO the TM is good but there is much room for improvement.

Now to point you in the direction of what you want. The People Mover in Detroit uses the same system of the TM (multiple doors, etc), but the stations are much nicer. http://www.thepeoplemover.com/WE-LL-TAKE-YOU-THERE!.id.2.htm

And they put it above ground so that there were more road space for the cars. Well what do you expect from the Motor City. But I do not know if they have a video showing it.

Possibly you might find what you want at the TM web site.

http://www.surumbo.com/index2.php3?domain=www.surumbo.com&alias=&frames=0&referer=http://www.transmilenio.gov.co/transmilenio/nvaentrada.htm

Which I believe is an excellent model since you can easily find what bus to take to get where. Kudos to the TM for their web site.

Also note that the stairs of the TM system do not meet the qualifications of the USA for the handicapped wheelchair bound people. And I believe they would have a lawsuit going immediately if you built the structure identical to that of the TM.

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LUISTOVAR says on Apr 26, 2007, 06:19:

thiswebpage well if you go to this webpage you can find some info about the transmilenium. http://www.gobrt.org/Transmilenio.html

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JMCana says on Apr 26, 2007, 06:30:

Good website Luistovar - thanks for providing that website. I is one I was not aware of and for those people in English speaking countries, the site is in English.

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kentuckygreg says on Apr 26, 2007, 06:53:

The mass transit system in Miami-Dade county is horrible. End of story.

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adrimm says on Apr 26, 2007, 07:49:

I 've found one good link to a short video but it only shows the loading platform:

Goungzhou in China is modelling their BRT after the TM. The boarding time differences (0.3 seconds vs 2-5 seconds) that a proper station can have are astonishing.. and essential if it will still be abiding by traffic lights.

video link: http://www.gzbrt.org/videos/on-off.swf
http://www.gzbrt.org/en/stations.asp

The intro and page 11 are good: http://www.nctr.usf.edu/jpt/pdf/JPT%209-3S%20Kantor.pdf

JMCana, Elevated roads would be nice, but since BRT is often the *much* cheaper alternative to LRT (light rail transit) (becuse is is ground based), I imagine that the cost of building it on elevated roadways might make it just as or more expensive than a rail-based LRT.

As for BRTs, there is little debate, TM is currently the world's highest use BRT. They're trying it in Asia as well, and are discovering that systems with deviations (ie no proper stations, or not fully separate lanes) are achieving far less ridership, and slower speeds. TM somehow hits all the right spots, and even manages to be a victim of it's own success.

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adrimm says on Apr 26, 2007, 07:57:

JMcana The people mover is rail or bus?

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adrimm says on Apr 26, 2007, 07:59:

PS Video request still stands.

Pictures are great (I have a tidy collection from several years of surfing BRT stuff), but a video is even better.

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thur says on Apr 26, 2007, 09:18:

Spanish? Recently there was a comparison between the bussystem in Santiago (Chile) and Bogotá posted on YouTube from Chilean television.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oc-HZGkotgw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLcHLj0SzUs

Especially video #2 shows the buslanes and bus stations and from second 50 with Spanish explanation about the "zona paga".
Greetings,

edit: What's wrong with using this photo collection? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxiKXgcrgjs

~ UPDATE ~
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adrimm says on Apr 29, 2007, 15:44:

Thanks Thur Thur, they're perfect but are in *Spanish*, I need English..How can I download them and add subtitles? Can I only get them from the posters?

I'd seen the third one, it's perfect but needs narration - if I could get a copy of it I'd be happy to narrate and repost it...

Hmm maybe I'll write the poster add some narration and send it back to them to repost. Thanks for the inspiration.

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