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Bogota Police advises of a new scam targeted at gringos

This may not be useful for the ones already living there but for tourists as that is a hotel zone. This is how it works:
Thugs on the streets with fake police IDs stop foreign looking people, aske them for their passport and then ask for their money (dollars of Euro is their preference) in order to "verify its authenticity". After that they just take out...



http://www.eltiempo.com/bogota/2008-05-08/ARTICULO-WEB-NOTA_INTERIOR-4...

Con engaños hurtan a extranjeros en la 116

Los delincuentes se hacen pasar por funcionarios oficiales para atracar a los extranjeros que se alojan en los hoteles de la 116. La modalidad tiene sosprendidas a las autoridades.

"Salí a dar una vuelta por los alrededores del hotel y dos tipos me pidieron mi pasaporte. Después me dijeron que tenía que darles los dólares que portaba porque debían verificar su autenticidad. Me llevaron a un lugar apartado y huyeron con mi dinero".


El anterior es el testimonio de un ciudadano argentino, víctima de esta nueva modalidad y quien pidió mantener su identidad en reserva. Casos como estos fueron denunciados ante las autoridades por 10 extranjeros en lo que va corrido del año.


Los vecinos del barrio Santa Bárbara, le dijeron a ZONA que no solo los extranjeros son las víctimas. "La esquina de la 116 con 15, al frente del supermercado, es un verdadero atracadero. Señores en carro disminuyen la velocidad para robarlo a uno. Es tal la situación que hasta tuvieron que cerrar una de las puertas de ese supermercado", explicó una residente del sector.


Los delincuentes muestran a sus víctimas carnés falsos de la Policía, la Fiscalía y el DAS y se aprovechan de la ingenuidad de los extranjeros para pedirles sus dólares para, según ellos, verificar su autenticidad. Después huyen con el botín en taxis y en vehículos particulares.


La Policía de Usaquén, consciente de la situación, ha implementado un plan que el pasado martes ya obtuvo sus primeros frutos con la captura en la calle 116 con 15 de un hombre de 50 años sindicado de ser integrante de una importante banda que tiene azotada esta zona de la ciudad. En el 2008 la policía ha capturado a 4 delincuentes dedicados a esta modalidad.


Los hombres pertenecientes a estas bandas saben distinguir a los extranjeros por su forma de vestir y hasta les hacen un seguimiento previo. Las autoridades han notado, según la denuncias de las víctimas, que solo le caen a los dólares y a los euros según el caso. La Policía Metropolitana de Bogotá hizo algunas recomendaciones para prevenir el hurto a personas:


*Evite llevar grandes cantidades de dinero ni tarjetas de crédito o débito. Lleve solo lo necesario.

*Verifique siempre que lleva su cartera cerrada.
*Transite por lugares concurridos.
*Asegure sus objetos personales y llévelos en un sitio poco visible a los delincuentes.
*Camine atento y no lleve joyas, celulares u objetos de valor a la vista.

By jorgegdiaz on May 8, 2008, 05:44 in Travel tips. AddThis Social Bookmark Button


gorgonabob says on May 8, 2008, 06:53:

you'd have to be pretty naive to fall for that one

rhydewithdis says on May 8, 2008, 07:03:

I had some guy try to run this scam on me back in 2003. Nothing new. They ask for money, jewelry, anything of value. No one should fall for it.

They said I couldn't play football I was too small / They say I couldn't play basketball I wasn't tall / They say I couldn't play baseball at all / And now everyday of my life I ball.

jonas says on May 8, 2008, 07:05:

people have been falling for this one for many years. Should any of you be approached by "police" in such manner always assume they are not. Keep walking. If they are insistent and threatening tell them you will only show documents in a CAI. Don´t get into a car with them, insist on walking. When you see a uniformed official, make a move to call his attention. This scam happens a lot in the centro, too. Caracas, Venezuela is another famous spot for this scam.

What I have, I do not want to lose, but Where I am I do not want to stay, but those I love, I do not want to leave, but those I know I no longer want to see, but Where I die, I do not want to go;I want to stay where I have never been

tomtom33 says on May 8, 2008, 12:22:

A good friend of mine had this successfully pulled on him in Laureles in Medellín. He is an experienced traveler but speaks virtually no Spanish. He was alone walking from my apartment to Spanish classes at UPB.

jonas says on May 8, 2008, 12:46:

The trick they apparently use a lot is that when you hesitate to hand over your passport and money they will stop another "foreigner" who speaks perfect Spanish and hands over his passport and money which they will promptly return to him. The other foreigner works with the gang. Now most tourist will be convinced that this is all legitimate. Always ask to walk to the next CAI.

What I have, I do not want to lose, but Where I am I do not want to stay, but those I love, I do not want to leave, but those I know I no longer want to see, but Where I die, I do not want to go;I want to stay where I have never been

robi666 says on May 8, 2008, 12:52:

People should also look if they wear "botas pantaneras" in Bogotà... that's the famous scam called "happy trip on the mountains"... que miedo, what a terrible city...

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

Mr. Hollywood says on May 8, 2008, 13:00:

Nothing new about this scam. I've had a couple people try that one on me in different locations in BOG.

Just walk away.

Cheers Terry says on May 8, 2008, 13:13:

On two occasions last January I had fake cops approach me, in the Candelaria district in Bogota. I was really pissed off because I hate being mistaken for a dumb tourist but it was interesting to finally see this old scam happening face-to-face.

One of them was easy to run off, the other was quite persistent and just couldn't get it through his head that I knew what was happening. When I started taking video of him he freaked out though and finally ran away.

Cheers,
Terry

Mr. Hollywood says on May 8, 2008, 13:49:

Probably time this board forms its own paramilitary group: Aguilas Blancas Calcetines Con Chanclas and starts taking down a few of these scumbags.

kat1 (Moderator) says on May 8, 2008, 13:50:

Calcetines Con Chanclas JAJAJAJJAJ

Rubito says on May 8, 2008, 23:04:

LOLOLLOLOLOL! Good one! I owe you a beer now!!

---Violence is the price of freedom.---

el flaco says on May 9, 2008, 01:19:

I carry a photocopy of my passport in my pocket which has been acceptable to the military checkpoints and hotels, much better than using the real thing.

These scams seem obvious however remember with the heat and tiredness of travel you make silly mistakes.

webmanco says on May 9, 2008, 04:31:

Robi666
that's the famous scam called "happy trip on the mountains"... que miedo, what a terrible city...


I thought you were an outdoor man Robi666

But, I'm going to start making some assumptions here.... Which means I might actually end up making an ass out of myself ..........Thu 04 17, 2008 11:34 am

elmodefoque says on May 9, 2008, 08:36:

GRINGO TARGETED IN BOGOTA???????
NOOOOOOOOO!!!
NO NOT IN BOGOTA!!!!
THEM FOKIN INJUNS ARE DANGEROUS, PLEASE BE CAREFUL!!

robi666 says on May 9, 2008, 08:41:

I was just reading for the first time Toneloc story on CBlog. Scaring...

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

elmodefoque says on May 9, 2008, 08:47:

scary chit!!
if they don't kill you, they kidnap you or burundanga your ass and leave you with out your eye balls or kidney

elmodefoque says on May 9, 2008, 08:49:

imagine one minute you're walking around checking out all them flat ass injun grils in bogota medellin or cali and next minuute you aint got no fokin eyes

elmodefoque says on May 9, 2008, 08:50:

your pretty blue eyes are hanging in a bogota market for sale

robi666 says on May 9, 2008, 08:52:

Imagine you are so happy after a couple of days staying in Bogotà because you did not get drugged touching an ATM keypad and all of a sudden a fokin granizada and a bola de hielo puts a fokin hole in your head.

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

Rubito says on May 9, 2008, 08:53:

They have burundaga in the coast too you freaks!

---Violence is the price of freedom.---

elmodefoque says on May 9, 2008, 09:02:

i have NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER HEARD of a friend or family member getting burundanga in barranquilla BUT i 've heard of a few getting burundanga in bogota
THANK YOU!!

elmodefoque says on May 9, 2008, 09:04:

the closest thing to burundanga is buying bad aguardiente.
you wake up with the worst fokin headache ever, and you wanna fight everybody

webmanco says on May 9, 2008, 09:09:

Elmo
fokin headache ever, and you wanna fight everybody

Then they got burundanga all over the world, most pbh want to fight everybody

But, I'm going to start making some assumptions here.... Which means I might actually end up making an ass out of myself ..........Thu 04 17, 2008 11:34 am

elmodefoque says on May 9, 2008, 09:12:

i have to repeat this story
There i was in bogota with my cousin, she lives in los cedritos.
they took me out to la zona rosa and chit, but before that i had to get money.
'we drive around the atm machine like ten times.
I asked, "what the fok are we doing, we're going around and around this damn bank.
they said. "this is not barranquilla we're in bogota, you have to be VERY CAREFULL"
But i told them
them injuns look small and fragile, i could fok them up with no problem.
they say. not if they pull a gun
let's circle around some more please

THANK YOU!!

webmanco says on May 9, 2008, 09:25:

Corronchos paranoicos :-) y exagerados IMHO

But, I'm going to start making some assumptions here.... Which means I might actually end up making an ass out of myself ..........Thu 04 17, 2008 11:34 am

kat1 (Moderator) says on May 9, 2008, 09:27:

jajaj webmanco, muchos corronchos, me imagino que 5 se fueron a sacar 10 mil miserables pesos jejeje

kat1 (Moderator) says on May 9, 2008, 09:28:

of course one stayed in the car, as the getaway car you know in case of trouble...

webmanco says on May 9, 2008, 09:31:

con una botella jartando ron y con otra botella rota en caso que haya que pelear

But, I'm going to start making some assumptions here.... Which means I might actually end up making an ass out of myself ..........Thu 04 17, 2008 11:34 am

robi666 says on May 9, 2008, 09:31:

Now, apart from being Colombian and having a business or work there, give me one reason to live in Bogotà. Give me just one reason.
Weather?
Culture?
Safety?
Prices?
Women?

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

webmanco says on May 9, 2008, 09:32:

All of the above, and more

But, I'm going to start making some assumptions here.... Which means I might actually end up making an ass out of myself ..........Thu 04 17, 2008 11:34 am

kat1 (Moderator) says on May 9, 2008, 09:34:

After being in the UK the weather in Bogota is perfect
culture? come on robie666 the best in Colombia
safety well common sense here and everywhere in Colombia but because it is abigger city you will find a bit more crime
prices actually cheaper than in some places, like Villavicencio and cartagena
women, Bogotá is a city where you will find people from everywhere, you ask anyone in Bogotá and is from somewhere in Colombia but Bogotá.

robi666 says on May 9, 2008, 09:36:

Weather? Yes, if you're a freaking white bear.
Culture? Ok, I'd stay in Rome or Florence then.
Safety? See above, plus the stories about GIB and Toneloc.
Prices? Bogotà is expensive.
Women? Have you ever been to the coast or Medellin?

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

kat1 (Moderator) says on May 9, 2008, 09:36:

webmanco si la botella todavia esta llena, olvidalo, esos costeños prefieren que se riegue sangre pero no alcohol!!! :)))

CatGirl says on May 9, 2008, 09:43:

Faking the identity of a law enforcement figure.....unfortunately happens everywhere.

Once I was pulled over by a "Drunk" undercover police officer. She was in a beat up Thunderbird and wearing street clothes. She was on a power hungry trip. She tried to play chicken with me on a one lane backroad in CA, almost causing a head on collision!! I thought she was a wack job until she put on her siren....I kept driving....she blundered about in her car (swerving all over the road) and found her light - put that in the window and i finally pulled over for her. She walked up to my window and demanded my ID and Registration etc... I said "First! I want Your ID!" she went back to her car and could not produce her badge. She was such a b**ch. She demanded I wait until she could get an officer out to deal with whatever she was pulling me over for. I told her "By law, you have 15 minutes to produce local law enforcement that has authority to do this, otherwise - I am leaving". (I left after 15)
I would not do that in another country, but in my neighborhood - different.

Too many imposters out there.

ooops! ....Did I say that?

elmodefoque says on May 9, 2008, 09:43:

SANGRE PERO NO EL TRAGO JAJAJAJJIJIJI
LA SANGRE EL CUERPO LA RECUPERA PERO EL ALCOHOL NO

webmanco says on May 9, 2008, 09:47:

Robbi666 you asked about Colombia not Rome or Florence, but in Bogotá we got Ciudad Roma so don´t need to got that far and pay expensive tickets. :-)

Safety, don´t get me started. Bogotá it is not cheap but it is where the wages are better.
Women we got all kinds nothing to envy oher cities.

I had been all over, la Costa, Medellín, Cali, etc It seems you had no gone pass the el Dorado Airport. I can find prettiest girls in rural Colombia than in the cities.

But, I'm going to start making some assumptions here.... Which means I might actually end up making an ass out of myself ..........Thu 04 17, 2008 11:34 am

robi666 says on May 9, 2008, 09:48:

ESTAS LOCO? Walking out the airport in Burungotà?

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

kat1 (Moderator) says on May 9, 2008, 09:51:

Elmo, hiba un costeño por la calle con su botella de Ron debajo de la chaqueta y va cubriendola con el brazo, de repente tropieza con algo, se cae al suelo, se rompe la botella y el Ron sale empapando la chaqueta y el suelo.elcosteño desesperado grita:que sea sangre!!! que sea sangre!!!

robi666 says on May 9, 2008, 09:52:

Web... me encanta mamar gallo a los cachacos... todo lo cogen así en serio... ;)
Permalosos!

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

elmodefoque says on May 9, 2008, 10:05:

WEB, is correct, us costenos tend to be a little paranoid when traveling to Bogotá Medellin Cali, Pasto etc. But you gotta remember I was there during LA VIOLENCIA and saw mass exodus Of my cachaco brothers hurled in their ponchos arriving en la costa with only their lives.
I saw the fear in there eyes.
We welcomed them and asked them, my cachaco brothers, what’s going on down there???
Pues, a mi hermano le cortaron la cabesita y se la métieron en su barrigita con sus bolitas��?
Ave maria que cosa tan horrible.
Us costenos were shocked at the brutality and from that moment on we are always fearful of places south of Monteria.
Then came Farc and la Guerra. Again my cachaco brothers arrive in the coast fearing for their lives.
Then came burundanga and common criminals and son and so on ……
That’s why co stenos fear cachaco cities.

Rubito says on May 9, 2008, 10:47:

"Now, apart from being Colombian and having a business or work there, give me one reason to live in Bogotà. Give me just one reason.
Weather?
Culture?
Safety?
Prices?
Women?"

Weather- Bogota is just about the ONLY place in Colombia that i think has GOOD weather. Anything above 25 degrees is not pleasant for me.
Culture- I doubt Rome and Florence has better live music and theater than Bogota. I KNOW NYC and Miami don't.
Safety- MDE and BAQ BOTH have more violent crime thant Bogota does.
Prices- Plenty of ways to save a buck in BOG. You don't have to go to the ZR and the 93 there. You have 7 or 8 other NEIGHBORHOODS full of good options. You don't have to live in Estrato 6 either. Estrato 3 and 4 is plenty fine.
Women- Bogota has like 2 million paisas and a million and a half costeños. That's almost another Medellin and a whole other Barranquilla in the same city. Nowhere else in Colombia comes CLOSE for diversity. As a matter of fact nowhere else in Colombia even HAS much diversity.

---Violence is the price of freedom.---

jorgegdiaz says on May 9, 2008, 10:54:

preprepreprepreguntaaaaa!
Cuantos costeños se necesitan para sacar a otro costeño que se ha caido en un hueco?





10...





Por que ?




2 para sacar el costeño




y 8 para sacar tronco de grabadora "mi hed-dmano"

Man with hole in pocket feel cocky all day.

elmodefoque says on May 9, 2008, 11:04:

bogota, half a million costenos jajajajajijijjjjj
87 percent of bogota population left colombia and are now in queen and the rest are wating for their gringo visas.
the other 20 or 30 staying there are burandangin people to steal their mondonguito

elmodefoque says on May 9, 2008, 11:07:

we got more cachacos in barranquilla than costenos.
they went there during la violencia and now with this farc mess.
the only thing is that they're now calling each other costenos and refuse to admit they're cachacos

elmodefoque says on May 9, 2008, 11:14:

next i'll show you a marilyn mason concert in bogota

Now let's see who is more authentic

elmodefoque says on May 9, 2008, 11:17:

if i wanted to see marilyn mason i'll take my ass to wisconsin

Rubito says on May 9, 2008, 11:17:

I didn't say half a million bro. I said a million AND A HALF.

And it's the PAISAS more than anybody else who left.

---Violence is the price of freedom.---

kat1 (Moderator) says on May 9, 2008, 11:17:

don't like Marilyn mason anyway :P

kat1 (Moderator) says on May 9, 2008, 11:19:

but anyway Bogota has lots of Costeños, there is an area of Bogota called Casablanca and it's full of them :))

elmodefoque says on May 9, 2008, 11:26:

i remember meetin this old lady from bogota at my old job.
She heard i was costeno and was in charged of cleaning the toilets
Well, she looked at me up and down like i smelled like chit
of course i gave HER that
"why you piece of little injun chit, how dare you look at me that way. I'm from BARRANQUILLA, LA PUERTA DE ORO, EL MEJOR VIVIDERO DEL MUNDO, the reason why for every barranquillero you find 1000 bogotanos living in USA
THANK YOU

elmodefoque says on May 9, 2008, 11:28:

COSTENOS have to populate bogota cali medellin pasto etc because NEARLY ALL CACHACOS HAVE ABANDONED COLOMBIA

jonas says on May 9, 2008, 11:30:

I know of one costeño who has ;-)

What I have, I do not want to lose, but Where I am I do not want to stay, but those I love, I do not want to leave, but those I know I no longer want to see, but Where I die, I do not want to go;I want to stay where I have never been

elmodefoque says on May 9, 2008, 11:31:

i met another broad from bogota, BUT she wanted nothing to do with colombia.
She had herself a gringo husband and made every effort to hide her colombianes
In 50 years living in usa i've only met 2 other barranquilleros
THANK YOU!

elmodefoque says on May 9, 2008, 11:37:

WE GOT OTHER LATIN COUNTRIES SINGING COLOMBIAN MUSIC
VENEZUELA, MEXICO, PERU. ECUADOR, ARGENTINA ETC......

kat1 (Moderator) says on May 9, 2008, 11:39:

so? we are talking about Costeños vs Cachacos :)))

CatGirl says on May 9, 2008, 11:43:

Rubito "Safety- MDE and BAQ BOTH have more violent crime thant Bogota does"

Curious....does this statement omit road rage ;))

"Women- Bogota has ....paisas and......costeños. As a matter of fact nowhere else in Colombia even HAS much diversity."

Rubito....you are so Cute Amor (no pun intended)...Although when I get my perspective and "assume" you are using this term only in comparison to other cities in Colombia, maybe this works? But when I hear the word Diversity and compare and contrast globally, two different types does not fit the square peg in the round hole so to speak, jajaja ;))

You sound excited, Amor...you planning on a big move soon ? Purrr

ooops! ....Did I say that?

elmodefoque says on May 9, 2008, 11:43:

COSTENO =SAFE, HAPPY AND DRUNK
CACHACOS=DANGER, COLD, BURUNDANGA AND DEPRESSION

kat1 (Moderator) says on May 9, 2008, 11:44:

But saying all of that I am proud of being a

CatGirl says on May 9, 2008, 11:45:

Elmo? Ok - I am learning here. Cachacos are typically from???

ooops! ....Did I say that?

elmodefoque says on May 9, 2008, 11:47:

en serio
you NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER compared safety.
My first trip back to colombia was in september of 1972. I had to land in bogota.
growing up hearing all this chit about bogota, i hid in a el dorado men's rooom for 3 hours until it was time to board the plane to curramba

elmodefoque says on May 9, 2008, 11:51:

cat, cachacos are my violent colombian brothers from bogota, medellin, cali, pasto, bucaramanga, pereira. manisales etc..
better yet, anyone NOT FROM barranquilla, cartagena, sant marta, moneteria, valledupar, la guajira

Rubito says on May 9, 2008, 11:52:

There are so few Curramberos living abroad because they don't get approved for the visas and they spend all the money for the plane ticket on guaro! And then they can't find the fokin airport because of all the garbage-eating seagulls feeding off of the corpses in the area! Not to mention they slept in late and missed the fokin flight!

---Violence is the price of freedom.---

Rubito says on May 9, 2008, 11:54:

Cat, I will be living in Bogota in August. And YES I was comparing it to other Colombian cities. But it's also true, Bogota is really the only place where you will find sizeable communities of people from other countries. Maybe you didn't know but Bogota has a thriving Brazilian community, AND a Cuban one. I will miss the 250 languages spoken here in NYC though :P

---Violence is the price of freedom.---

elmodefoque says on May 9, 2008, 11:54:

now is time for my afternoon NAP
GOODBYE ALL
THANK YOU!!

Rubito says on May 9, 2008, 11:54:

double post. the site is acting funny.

---Violence is the price of freedom.---

elmodefoque says on May 9, 2008, 11:58:

ALL CACHACOS GOT HERE ILLEGALLY, VISA JAJAJAJAJAJA
THEY DON'T NEED NO STINKING VISA
THEY RATHER DO TIME IN JAIL THAN TO STAY IN BOGOTA
THANK YOU AND GOODNIGHT

elmodefoque says on May 9, 2008, 12:16:

I THINK WE WERE THE ONLY COLOMBIAN FAMILY TO ENTER USA LEGALLY
BACK IN IN 1959 MY FATHER COULD NOT ASK FOR A REFUGEE VISA DUE TO VIOLENCE, AND THAT WAS DURING LA VIOLENCIA, CUS THERE WAS NEVER ANY VIOLENCE IN BARRANQUILLA DURING THAT TIME
HE ASKED FOR A VISA TO MIGRATE AND THAT WAS IT.
90 PERCENT OF THE 5 MILLION OF MY CACHACO BROTHERS LIVING HERE SNUCK THRU THE HOLE OR VISIITED AND NEVER RETURNED

elmodefoque says on May 9, 2008, 12:18:

MANY CACHACO WOMEN MARRIED GRINGOS AND THEN BROUGHT THEIR ENTIRE FAMILY

elmodefoque says on May 9, 2008, 12:21:

MY MOTHER NEVER HAD ANY INTREREST TO LIVE OR VISIT USA,
YOU GIVE A BOGOTANO A VISA AND WITHIN 2 YEARS THE ENTIRE FAMILY AND EVEN THE FOKIN DOG WOULD BE LIVING IN QUEENS
TALKING ABOUT HOW MUCH THEY LOVE THEIR CITY

CatGirl says on May 9, 2008, 13:05:

Although new information for me, I am not suprised about the increase in these two in Bogota. Ironically these 2 Latin Cultures contrast each other too and at the same time would fit into the mix of Colombian Culture :)
Interesting, Gracias

ooops! ....Did I say that?

robi666 says on May 9, 2008, 13:58:

LOL
I love this thread... I'll write something later... :)

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

elmodefoque says on May 9, 2008, 18:19:

reading my previous chit i see that my writining is getting worster and worster, i can' put a fokin sentence together
anyways. just to give you an idea of how different cachacos and costenos are, check this out.
which one is costeno which one is cachaco?
is hard to understand we share the same flag



docwilliam says on May 9, 2008, 18:28:

I carry a copy of my passport and leave the real thing in the casa. I wonder how much they would demand to "verify authenticity" of that puppy?

"There's no time to panic"

webmanco says on May 9, 2008, 18:43:

Elmo and Roby666



cat, cachacos are my violent colombian brothers from bogota, medellin, cali, pasto, bucaramanga, pereira. manisales etc.. VILLAVAINA

COSTENO =SAFE, HAPPY AND DRUNK Lazy and broke

But, I'm going to start making some assumptions here.... Which means I might actually end up making an ass out of myself ..........Thu 04 17, 2008 11:34 am

Rubito says on May 9, 2008, 19:01:

Go to Barranquilla and you can see the second video live, but you'll sweat your balls off.

Go to Bogota and you can see BOTH videos live any time of the year, and you can wear long pants without sweating your balls off.

---Violence is the price of freedom.---

ColombianoGringo says on May 9, 2008, 19:37:

Uy! Quien le dio cuerda a Elmo?

durito says on May 9, 2008, 19:40:

The fake police scam is real popular in Peru and Bolivia as is the examine your money scam.

In La Paz there were (probably still are) hanging out near where buses game in from Copacobana and Lago Titicaca, a cab driver would pick up some backpackers, then a guy would stop the can on the street with a fake badge, get in the cab and they'd kidnap them and take their atms cards to withdraw all their cash before they released them. Most were released unharmed, but they murdered 3 people.

CatGirl says on May 9, 2008, 19:42:

Webman & Elmo "cat, cachacos are my violent colombian brothers from bogota, medellin, cali, pasto, bucaramanga, pereira. manisales etc.. VILLAVAINA

COSTENO =SAFE, HAPPY AND DRUNK Lazy and broke"

Now kitty is even more confused ...mmeeaow. Oh well.

ooops! ....Did I say that?

christobeldawg says on May 9, 2008, 20:01:

boy you are right there Elmo. In the US, most people think of Colombia as Mexico, just further south, the place where the drugs come from, and the place where one goes to get kidnapped, but I have seen that the people there from the different regions are completely different from each other. In Bogota, they tend to be hard working, serious minded business types, though still a bit more alive than most north Americans. On the coast, they are just flat out wide open, life loving, partying types. That is a sterotyping generalization, but ya know what I mean. I guess the common bond I have seen is that they all tend to have a closeness to their families, and the ones from the different regions tend to have much respect for those that are from the other regions, generally.

admittedly, arriving can feel great too

Rubito says on May 9, 2008, 21:17:

People in Bogota unless they have coastal roots HATE on the costeños.

---Violence is the price of freedom.---

webmanco says on May 9, 2008, 22:21:

CatGirl Elmo calls Villavicencio Villavaina, they had to teach him in USA to write Colombia instead of Columbia.

But, I'm going to start making some assumptions here.... Which means I might actually end up making an ass out of myself ..........Thu 04 17, 2008 11:34 am

christobeldawg says on May 9, 2008, 22:28:

Rubito, I have noticed, while not so much hate, a certain looking down on them, but they will not admit to it.

admittedly, arriving can feel great too

Rubito says on May 9, 2008, 22:33:

The people I know will READILY admit to it. The different regions of Colombia really don't get along that well.

---Violence is the price of freedom.---

CatGirl says on May 9, 2008, 22:36:

Webman - jeje you are funny!! cute comment. I like your humor

ooops! ....Did I say that?

christobeldawg says on May 9, 2008, 22:52:

Rubito, I think one thing that is pretty clear to all of the world is that different parts of Colombia don't seem to get along. They are sortof known for being a particularly violent culture.

admittedly, arriving can feel great too

CatGirl says on May 9, 2008, 22:55:

Violent? or hot headed? Or short fused?

ooops! ....Did I say that?

aztec says on May 11, 2008, 11:32:

"Rubito says on May 9, 21:17: flag

People in Bogota unless they have coastal roots HATE on the costeños."


I remember being surprised by the antipathy. On one occasion when we were looking at apartments the agent advised against because there were Costeños living in the building. It seems the reputation of playing loud music and partying all the time with too many poeple preceeds them where ever they live.

Unfortunately, native Bogotanos do indeed look down on them as if they are lower class. Coming from the South Eastern part of the USA I was surprised by the classism. The discrimination seems different than pure racism although there may be that also. Maybe a mixture of both.

CatGirl says on May 11, 2008, 11:38:

Aztec...Hmm. that was a helpful...gracias

ooops! ....Did I say that?

vicshere says on May 11, 2008, 12:50:

MAN ...WHATS WITH ALL THE YELLING IN HERE

listo

SiV says on May 11, 2008, 13:17:

I've heard of thugs doing the same thing . . . no hang, on they WERE real police.

An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. Mahatma Gandhi

huskie says on May 12, 2008, 10:17:

"boy you are right there Elmo. In the US, most people think of Colombia as Mexico....."
at Christo: Only uneducated and ignorants, maybe a long time ago, but not nowadays.
Cheers

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds-"

slguy says on May 12, 2008, 10:51:

here we go again. people who''ve never seen anything but bogota claiming to know the entire country.

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

ColombianoGringo says on May 12, 2008, 10:56:

Well from someone who knows Colombia from North to South, I agree that Costeños are reviled in many parts of the country. They are often stereotyped as loud, lazy and stupid. Even normally pleasant people will often get worked up and show some serious hatred when it comes to Costeños. People will often make fun of other regions. There are plenty of jokes about Pastusos, Opitas, Paisas, etc., but many people absolutely hate Costeños. I'm not saying it's right, but it happens.

ColombianoGringo says on May 12, 2008, 11:01:

Hmm. Strange. The edit link has already gone away on that last comment after only a few minutes.

huskie says on May 12, 2008, 11:29:

yes, I agree with ColGr. Costenos are considered rude, lacking of respect for others, loud, ill mannered, lazy, and vulgar. I know is not nice, but that is the way it is. BTW not every one is considered as such!
Cheers

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds-"

Rubito says on May 12, 2008, 11:56:

I don't think it matters what color they are. The guy who was 5 hours late for something and got everybody bitching about Costeños was every bit as blond as I am.

---Violence is the price of freedom.---

elmodefoque says on May 12, 2008, 12:01:

Look down????? jajajajajjijijijijijajajajajjijijjji
How could those little depressed violent Andean Indian modefoques look down on costenos.
They would first have to find a step ladder.
I would call that, ENVY
FOLLOWING IS A LIST:

elmodefoque says on May 12, 2008, 12:03:

gamines
vilonece
BURUNDANGA
gamines
cold
depressing
violence
rain
BURUNDANGA
violence
third world feeling, like quito
violence

elmodefoque says on May 12, 2008, 12:04:

up and down mountains
no ocean
no music
violence
la violencia
bombs
BURUNDANGA
NO SUN

elmodefoque says on May 12, 2008, 12:06:

AND NUMBER ONE!!!!
KIDNAPPING

elmodefoque says on May 12, 2008, 12:06:

AND NUMBER ONE!!!!
KIDNAPPING

elmodefoque says on May 12, 2008, 12:07:

AND WORST OF ALL CAN'T DANCE FOR CHIT
MORE VIOLENCE
MORE BURUNDANGA

elmodefoque says on May 12, 2008, 12:08:

MORE GAMINES

elmodefoque says on May 12, 2008, 12:09:

THANK YOU!!!

ColombianoGringo says on May 12, 2008, 12:10:

"little depressed violent Andean Indian modefoques"

Well, this 100% cachaco is 6' 2" and not very indio at all, so I'll pass on the stepladder.

Still, we are just pointing out the reality of prejudices in Colombia, not actually talking badly about Costeños. Honestly, your ranting is starting to get pretty old. There are a lot of extremely fucked up things we could discuss about Barranquilla, Cartagena, etc., but that really isn't the point. Can't you just go back to talking about sex with burros?

elmodefoque says on May 12, 2008, 12:13:

CG, I LOVE TO TALK SEX BUT I'M NOT ALLOWED TO USE THE C-----A WORD ANYMORE
ANYWAY , THIS IS THE NUMBER ONE ENTERTAINMET IN COLOMBIA, GOOFING ON EACH OTHER, IS FUN AND NOT HARMFUL.

elmodefoque says on May 12, 2008, 12:16:

i will grant you, not all is sunny and nice in barranquilla
Instead of burundanga this gringo guy was knocked out two years ago by a coconut, thrown from the back of a carro mula
the coconut was meant for another corroncho

tomtom33 says on May 12, 2008, 12:21:

With burrOs? Damn Elmo.

slguy says on May 12, 2008, 12:23:

"the coconut was meant for another corroncho"

jajajaaja

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

slguy says on May 12, 2008, 12:26:

i don't care what anyone says - you're aa funny modefoque, elmo.

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

robi666 says on May 12, 2008, 12:27:

LOL
"GOOFING ON EACH OTHER, IS FUN AND NOT HARMFUL."
So true!

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

elmodefoque says on May 12, 2008, 12:32:

tom,
girl in pic, bery bery nice,

tomtom33 says on May 12, 2008, 12:36:

She's a Gringa. I spend summers with her and friends on a river sandbar. They love to earn sets of beads.

elmodefoque says on May 12, 2008, 12:43:

god bless gringas
listen, i'm free now, i aint got no job.
next time you hit that sandbar, give me headsup
I'll start buying beads now

elmodefoque says on May 12, 2008, 12:46:

them barranquilleras don't want no stinking beads, they want hardcore cash, dolares

jorgegdiaz says on May 12, 2008, 12:48:

Beads... that`s a traidition we need to import to Locombia ;)

Man with hole in pocket feel cocky all day.

elmodefoque says on May 12, 2008, 12:50:

Not a bad idea

but I don't think it would work with colombianas

no way jose jjijijijajajaj

elmodefoque says on May 12, 2008, 12:52:

they'll tell you to stick them cheap beads up your ass

Rubito says on May 12, 2008, 12:56:

Let's talk about all the tropical diseases you can get in Barranquilla that you can't get up in the mountains. Like malaria, dengue, leprosy, and those foot bugs that have to be surgically removed :)

---Violence is the price of freedom.---

elmodefoque says on May 12, 2008, 13:00:

WHATTTT???? IN BARRANQUILLA???????
MAN, IT SHOWS YOU NEVER BEEN OUTSIDE THE MOUNTAINS OF BOGOTA
MALARIA DENGUE IN BARRANQUILLLA JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJ

Rubito says on May 12, 2008, 13:01:

Don't forget penis-rotting leprosy.

That's all you need is to finally get down there and in the first three months contract something that rots your appendage off :P

---Violence is the price of freedom.---

elmodefoque says on May 12, 2008, 13:06:

HOW ABOUT SOME CRAZY INJUN MDEFOQUE BURUNDANGIN AND KIDNAPPING YOUR ASS AND THEN REMOVING YOUR KIDENY TO BE SOLD FOR 100 MIL PESOS.
OR MAYBE MAKING YOU WEAR UN COLLAR DE BOMBA
THAT IS MORE CREDIBLE THAN DENGE IN BARRANQUILLLA
MALARIA IN QUILLA JAJAJAJAJA
MAN, YOU REALLY REALLLY NEED TO DO MUCH BETTER RESEARCH

elmodefoque says on May 12, 2008, 13:10:

are the collar de bombas in gold?

Rubito says on May 12, 2008, 13:10:

http://books.google.com/books?id=xN7nNRr4lGIC&pg=PA171&lpg=PA171&dq=de... barranquilla&source=web&ots=7Rqu48a5ag&sig=IlGkD3loj6PNjAmjZ9-CS9kpLV0&hl=en#PPA171,M1

RESEARCH! :)

And the best part is, while you are convulsing so hard your fokin ribs are breaking and spitting blood, the Costeño doctor is too busy banging his receptionist to get to you before iit's too late ;)

---Violence is the price of freedom.---

elmodefoque says on May 12, 2008, 13:11:

how do you prefer your burundanga on ice or room temperature

elmodefoque says on May 12, 2008, 13:13:

i like mine on ice please with a twist of lime

elmodefoque says on May 12, 2008, 13:15:

long island ice tea
how about
a bogota ice tea
it has burundanga, guaro and a touch of vanilla

elmodefoque says on May 12, 2008, 13:15:

served by an undercover guerrillera

elmodefoque says on May 12, 2008, 13:16:

wearing a very sexy short skiirt

elmodefoque says on May 12, 2008, 13:18:

while her comrads wait outside

how you spell comrads, like this?

elmodefoque says on May 12, 2008, 13:22:

all drugged up, they make you hike up them mountains, passing esa vaina monserrate .
all while fighting snakes, lions, cucarachas, flying dragons,

elmodefoque says on May 12, 2008, 13:24:

i'll rather take a chance with a coconut falling on my head in barranquillla, thank you very much

keep doing researh on googles

tomtom33 says on May 12, 2008, 13:25:

I'll be in Wisconsin from June 4 to the end of Sept. Every Sat. and Sun., weather permitting, I am parked on that sandbar all day long. Drop on by. The bead business is brisk.

I just sent you a link to view my summer fun photos. Check your Yahoo! e-mail.

elmodefoque says on May 12, 2008, 13:28:

how about a gamine putting a broken beer bottle on your neck, no thanks
I'll take a coconut upside my head, please

elmodefoque says on May 12, 2008, 13:30:

tom,

thanks!!!t

webmanco says on May 12, 2008, 13:35:

Elmo I went to a night club infested with corronchos, (and yes it is scaring) :-) vallenato all night long, you would feel at home right there about 200 in just one nigt club in dangerous freezing Bogotá, and this cachaco had to look down at many of them.

haha and you chickening out

But, I'm going to start making some assumptions here.... Which means I might actually end up making an ass out of myself ..........Thu 04 17, 2008 11:34 am

elmodefoque says on May 12, 2008, 13:39:

tom,
flickr has the hiccups, cant see photos right now
i will keep checking

Monpirri says on May 12, 2008, 13:43:

I’m neutral, as a member here at pbh claims to say once in a while. But costeños have given Colombia more positive exposure abroad than paisas or cachacos!

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

elmodefoque says on May 12, 2008, 13:43:

the reasons why corronchos make lousy guerrilleros
can't get up on time for the morning kidnapping in bogota
cant be on time for the daily bombing
too drunk to hit a moving target, no good as scicario

tomtom33 says on May 12, 2008, 13:44:

They are having issues. I just noticed a different link to be used for sets marked private(I think) and sent it to you.

webmanco says on May 12, 2008, 13:45:

MP
But costeños have given Colombia more positive exposure abroad than paisas or cachacos!


Do you mean with Paramilitarismo hahaha

But, I'm going to start making some assumptions here.... Which means I might actually end up making an ass out of myself ..........Thu 04 17, 2008 11:34 am

elmodefoque says on May 12, 2008, 13:46:

more reason why we have no guerrilleros in barranquillla, but first i need to take my 4th nap ofthe day. be back later

thank you!!!!

elmodefoque says on May 12, 2008, 14:28:

barranquilleros secret weapon in keeeping Farc guerilleros away,
we placed GIGANTIC speakers in Monteiria, ponting south, playing this chit.
this music is also use to cure deadly effects of Burundanga

robi666 says on May 12, 2008, 14:51:

What do you prefer:
a coconut falling on your head from a tree in Barranquilla, or
a fokin bola de hielo from 10,000 feet just in your fokin head in Burungotà?

I go to Barranquilla, thank you

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

slguy says on May 12, 2008, 15:25:

that music would keep EVERYYTHING away! - 'cept a headache. ;)

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

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