Bid to kidnap Uribe sons 'foiled'

Buongone says on Dec 14, 2007, 01:15:

That's just going to piss off Uribe even further. I could assume he hates them very much after what happened to his father. Being killed in a botched kidnapping. Now them going after his boys. A real HOT potato !! Not good for any negotiations.

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Medellin Traveler says on Dec 14, 2007, 03:18:

I personally would make them feel the wrath of the Colombian army.

It's a freakin' joke with them FARC. They are not a political movement, though wouldn't label them "terrorist" as well.

"Further complicate" is an understatement.
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- Colombia places bounty on alleged would-be kidnappers of president's sons

Colombia has placed a 250,000-U.S. dollar bounty on two rebels who allegedly planned to kidnap President Alvaro Uribe's sons, police said Thursday.

Colombia's police director general Oscar Naranjo said they detected an alleged plan by Colombia's Revolutionary Armed Forces (FARC) to kidnap Tomas and Jeronimo Uribe, an attempt to press the government for a prisoner swap.

"The plan was allegedly headed by rebel chief Oscar Montero, alias 'El Paisa,' commander of FARC's Teofilo Forero column, the group's elite branch," a police statement said.

Another key member of the plan was known as Leiner, it added.

Police agents had telephone conversations that allegedly proved the rebels were following Uribe's sons' movements.

"We have to find out why dangerous members of FARC's Teofilo Forero column are able to use cell phones to receive orders," Naranjo said.

The police have arrested 13 rebels, including four women, responsible for installing three car bombs in southern Caqueta highways. The bombs had been defused.

FARC, the country's largest rebel group with a 17,000-strong force, has held some 50 "interchangeable" hostages and its dialogue with the government to swap them for imprisoned FARC members has been in an impasse despite mediation efforts from some countries.

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esanch36 says on Dec 14, 2007, 06:30:

GIB you should use your contacts with in the Colombian government and find out what really happend.

All right, I'll ask: How come it took three seconds to euthanize Eight Belles, but the Womens NBA is starting Year 12???

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tejasmarcos says on Dec 14, 2007, 07:08:

hmmmmm. why don't they sedate the farc prisoners, put a tracking chip in their femors, release them for the held hostages and then track them down in a hail of gunfire, rockets and bombs until the farc is a 500 strongforce?

trying to walk a straight line on sour mash and cheap wine...

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esanch36 says on Dec 14, 2007, 07:24:

woaaaa GIB calmate mujer.....You have mentioned before how you know people in high places. I was thinking you could get some info and find out the real story. Mannnnn you are so sensitive.

All right, I'll ask: How come it took three seconds to euthanize Eight Belles, but the Womens NBA is starting Year 12???

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esanch36 says on Dec 14, 2007, 07:27:

whoa whoa whoa.....calm down elreydelostrolls.....why are you so sensitive? hahaha sheeshhh

All right, I'll ask: How come it took three seconds to euthanize Eight Belles, but the Womens NBA is starting Year 12???

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Robert Jorge says on Dec 14, 2007, 08:12:

tejasmarcos might be on to something. Plant a chip in these FARC scum who are in prison. Then, release them like the FARC demands in exchange for all the FARC held hostages. When everybody that was held by the FARC is accounted for, track down the SOBs and drop 500 pounders on their head from 60,000 feet. I love it.

--"I believe in making the world safe for our children. But not for our children's children, because I don't think that children should be having sex." - Jack Handy

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esanch36 says on Dec 14, 2007, 08:20:

The funny thing is that you are mad and i wasnt even joking with you.

All right, I'll ask: How come it took three seconds to euthanize Eight Belles, but the Womens NBA is starting Year 12???

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esanch36 says on Dec 14, 2007, 08:21:

I give up....your a fool...just block me again.

All right, I'll ask: How come it took three seconds to euthanize Eight Belles, but the Womens NBA is starting Year 12???

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esanch36 says on Dec 14, 2007, 08:26:

hahahaha........even when i dont mean anything, its still get you going. too funny

All right, I'll ask: How come it took three seconds to euthanize Eight Belles, but the Womens NBA is starting Year 12???

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RonDubya says on Dec 14, 2007, 09:23:

Back to the subject at hand.... I am wondering why those FARC folks in prison get to use the telephone. Does the warden think they are going to cal the local cine to find out what is playing tonight? If they get to use the telepnone, all calls by any of them should be monitiored.

Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most.

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Sr Tertius says on Dec 14, 2007, 09:54:

Fokin A, even the Prez gets his phone tapped, as shown in recent news.

I think this is another case of "false positives," not created by the media, which is enjoying the highest credibility I've seen anywhere according to recent polls, but by you know who.

"When the finger points to the moon, the fool looks at the finger" (Chinese proverb)

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Mr. Hollywood says on Dec 14, 2007, 09:55:

I agree with GIB. The FARC would be absolute idiots to assume anything other than that every word they utter in a phone call is monitored, recorded, traced... And they're not idiots.

Likely they were jerking someone's chain.

And a "conspiracy to kidnap the president's sons" is kind of like the conspiracy to bomb Andino and the Zona Rosa. You kind of have to assume that there's ALWAYS such a plan in the works somewhere.

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Medellin Traveler says on Dec 14, 2007, 14:41:

" tejasmarcos might be on to something. Plant a chip in these FARC scum who are in prison. Then, release them like the FARC demands in exchange for all the FARC held hostages. When everybody that was held by the FARC is accounted for, track down the SOBs and drop 500 pounders on their head from 60,000 feet. I love it." - Robert Jorge

I was thinking the same thing before I read your post. With all the freakin' technology we have available today, why not try something like this out. What do you have to loose?

"I agree with GIB. The FARC would be absolute idiots to assume anything other than that every word they utter in a phone call is monitored, recorded, traced... And they're not idiots." - Mr. Hollyood.

Imprisoned folks still have rights.

The Chicago mobs heavy-hitters just got convicted on RICO charges, many conversations were recorded during phone calls, meetings with visitors, as well as conversations recorded in the prison yard by other mob members.

There was also a recent article on Chicago gang Kingpins and how they control the street gangs from in prison. They give out orders over phone conversations and during visits from other leaders.

All use coded language to get things across.

So, it's not just the FARC.

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Mr. Hollywood says on Dec 14, 2007, 15:03:

MT, maybe you misunderstand, people in Colombian prisons don't have a right to talk on the phone unmonitored. And, with 20,000 FARC running around the country free, it's not like they need the guys in the prisons to do the heavy lifting.

I think the FARC was jerking the government's chain, or maybe the government was jerking the FARC's chain. But I don't believe this is what it transparently purports to be.

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john_stark says on Dec 14, 2007, 16:01:

This is the part I love - they were allowed to plot the whole thing out from prison by making phone calls to their FARC buddies. Hell if I were running the joint those guys would forget what a phone was and they'd wish they were getting waterboarded in Club Gitmo.

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la campiña says on Dec 14, 2007, 19:16:

que pena

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goin_south says on Dec 14, 2007, 20:38:

tejasmarcos has the best explanation I've heard for how to end the freakn war:

""sedate the farc prisoners, put a tracking chip in their femors, release them for the held hostages and then track them down in a hail of gunfire, rockets and bombs until the farc is a 500 strongforce?""

geneva convention rules, my ass.
war is war. terror is terror... an I 4 an I, right mate?
I've always said, I can't believe 'they can't find those modefoques'...
Tejasmarcos idea is one of modern day warfare....
WTF are we doing with all this technology and not using it for good, to put an end to the better part of 17,000 bastards

'what does it mean, when one of you (colombians) tell another: YOU WERE NOT/ARE NOT. 'COLOMBIAN ENOUGH'?? jejeje..a mixture, I think, of stupidity mixed with a false sense of arrogance.. How 'colombian' do you have to be? to be 'colombian enough

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Gator says on Dec 15, 2007, 08:08:

"Imprisoned folks still have rights.

1. It IS Colombia, NOT the USA
2. Ever been to La Modelo in Bogotá?
3. cell phones abound along with small arms, machine guns explosives, etc. etc.

"Brevior Sltare Cum Deformibus Mulieribus Est Vita!" .

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Robert Jorge says on Dec 15, 2007, 10:38:

Hey Gator. I tried finding La Modelo with Google Earth. Where is it approximately located in Bogota? Is it that big prison in barrio portal?

--"I believe in making the world safe for our children. But not for our children's children, because I don't think that children should be having sex." - Jack Handy

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Robert Jorge says on Dec 15, 2007, 11:37:

I still don't know where La Modelo is. But I figured out the name of the prison near or in Portal in the south is called La Picota.

--"I believe in making the world safe for our children. But not for our children's children, because I don't think that children should be having sex." - Jack Handy

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aztec says on Dec 15, 2007, 13:38:

"and senioritas"

GIB, please expand on this item for us please.

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goin_south says on Dec 15, 2007, 14:05:

old ladies?
(he's gone polar, opposite morphus)

'what does it mean, when one of you (colombians) tell another: YOU WERE NOT/ARE NOT. 'COLOMBIAN ENOUGH'?? jejeje..a mixture, I think, of stupidity mixed with a false sense of arrogance.. How 'colombian' do you have to be? to be 'colombian enough

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