Betancourt running for PRESIDENT

DCGringo says on Jul 3, 2008, 09:56:

One more soldier is exactly what they need right now. Uribe is the MAN and getting the job done.

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huskie says on Jul 3, 2008, 09:58:

She is a bit delusional, I think
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Gator says on Jul 3, 2008, 10:01:

If he can and does run again what a ticket this would be: Uribe, President; Betancourt , Vice-president. Then she runs for president.

Talk about a landslide both times.

"Credidi pretio parvo emere et magno vendere tibi in animo fuisse!" .

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morphus says on Jul 3, 2008, 10:06:

I think she would make more bad decisions like the one that caused her to get kidnapped.

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Albatross says on Jul 3, 2008, 10:06:

Well, she's smart enough to realize that now is her moment, so I'm not surprised she's making the most of it.
I would also not be surprised if she runs for President in '10... or if she wins.

“Democracy - a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H.L. Mencken

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DCGringo says on Jul 3, 2008, 10:19:

What are the regulations for being President in Colombia? How long is a term? Are there restrictions on how many terms you can serve?

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gato-bandido says on Jul 3, 2008, 10:26:

``I continue to aspire to serve Colombia as president.''

Actually if you watch the video what she really said was quite a bit different. It sounded much more like a remote "maybe". "Dios sabe" or something like that.

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huskie says on Jul 3, 2008, 10:26:

I agree w/ u Morphus
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bamacellist says on Jul 3, 2008, 10:28:

Saying she still has aspirations is not the same thing as starting a campaign. Let's everybody take a deep breath!

"The future is much like the present, only longer."

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huskie says on Jul 3, 2008, 10:38:

Well if she is commenting that she continues to aspire to be president, she is campaigning
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Lisa Zee says on Jul 3, 2008, 10:45:

Give Ingrid a break. Can we just be happy for all that is happening?. Why is always a cloud of suspicion and negativity here?.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jul 3, 2008, 10:46:

Ingrid for President!!!

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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bamacellist says on Jul 3, 2008, 10:53:

I'm not saying she won't, but I think this is taking the ball and running farther with it than is justified :)

"The future is much like the present, only longer."

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ColombianoGringo says on Jul 3, 2008, 10:54:

That is not exactly what she said. She did not specifically say that she wanted to be president. Still, that doesn't mean she won't.

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Lisa Zee says on Jul 3, 2008, 10:55:

I think it is a little ridiculous and premature, do not twist her words and turn it into a joke.
When she comes and publicly announces that she is running, them we can say: "Ingrid is running for president", and only then, NOT YET!!!

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Medellin Traveler says on Jul 3, 2008, 10:58:

Lisa Zee says, "Ingrid is running for president".

Can I quote you on that? :O)

"Huevos Rancheros en Medellin, No Quiero Taco Bell." - www.medellintraveler.com

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morphus says on Jul 3, 2008, 10:59:

She's running back to France...HAHA

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bigtexas1974 says on Jul 3, 2008, 11:05:

She should just be happy she's still alive, and let Uribe and his men get the glory for this and continue his strong run!

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mariacvetanoski says on Jul 3, 2008, 11:08:

huskie, maybe betancourt will see the REAL ANGELINA JOLIE IN FRANCE!

Save the street children of Colombia Now!!

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Lcacique says on Jul 3, 2008, 11:20:

I agree with Lisa Zee, and don't quite understand (nor have I ever understood) all of the animosity that people pile on to Ingrid.

"She should just be happy she's still alive..." really? Can we allow her to work as a waitress somewhere at least, bigtexas? And, I believe she gave all of the glory to Uribe and the soldiers.

Hoy se nota en la floresta un ambiente de alegría. ¡Y el rumor de ranchería es mas dulce y sabe a fiesta!

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sanandressi says on Jul 3, 2008, 11:20:

On the same day she is freed AFTER^ YEARS she says "....I still aspire to be president...." Hell, if she wants it that bad give it to her.

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billyb says on Jul 3, 2008, 11:21:

Maybe angelina jolie can play her in the movie??

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Albatross says on Jul 3, 2008, 11:24:

... I'm happy for all that is happening.

“Democracy - a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H.L. Mencken

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Lcacique says on Jul 3, 2008, 11:26:

She is a politician...Why wouldn't she aspire to be president?

Hoy se nota en la floresta un ambiente de alegría. ¡Y el rumor de ranchería es mas dulce y sabe a fiesta!

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tasco66 says on Jul 3, 2008, 11:29:

Is she going to run from France?

Bravo, Presidente Uribe for the perfect operation!

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jul 3, 2008, 11:35:

There was an article in La Semana titled "And Out Steps The Candidate". For those who read Spanish:
Y llegó la candidata
Sus primeras palabras cuando abrazó la libertad reflejan la dimensión política de Ingrid. Ya tiene un programa de gobierno de 190 puntos que elaboró en cautiverio. Su popularidad, la dignidad que mostró y su inteligencia la convierten en una gran líder.
Fecha: 07/03/2008 -1365
Con �ngrid Betancourt se dio un fenómeno singular. Cuando los guerrilleros se la llevaron para lo profundo de la selva, su popularidad estaba en el piso, apenas el 24 por ciento de imagen favorable, y ahora regresa con índices de popularidad del 71 por ciento, sólo superados por los del presidente �lvaro Uribe.

No es gratuito. �ngrid se convirtió, para los colombianos, en un símbolo de la resistencia del ser humano frente a la brutalidad del secuestro. Dicho de otra manera, una mujer, en apariencia frágil, demostraba que ni toda la artillería de la Farc, ni su soberbia, ni su crueldad eran capaces de derrotar la dignidad.

La fotografía que le tomaron el 24 de octubre del año pasado, como parte del paquete de pruebas de vida que las Farc le enviaron al presidente Hugo Chávez, lo decía casi todo. Una de las mujeres más combativas que ha conocido el país se veía sola e indefensa en medio de la selva. Estaba tan delgada, que ya no parecía poder perder un gramo más y se había dejado crecer tanto el pelo, que hacía recordar imágenes de mártires. Y -tal vez lo más importante de todo su 'mensaje'- clavó la mirada en el piso en señal de protesta y no quiso pronunciar una sola palabra. Hasta en el peor momento, �ngrid daba una señal de que las Farc no la habían doblegado. De que no había dado su brazo a torcer.


PUBLICIDAD
En esa misma fecha, �ngrid escribió una carta de una lucidez conmovedora. Más que un mensaje de un secuestrado, era toda una proclama política. Decía, por ejemplo, "En Colombia todavía tenemos que pensar de dónde venimos, quiénes somos y a dónde queremos ir. Yo aspiro a que algún día tengamos esa sed de grandeza que hace surgir a los pueblos de la nada hacia el Sol".

La fotografía y la carta que llegaron desde la selva le dieron la vuelta al mundo. Se convirtió en un símbolo del calvario de los secuestrados, y en el motor para la histórica marcha del pasado 4 de febrero, en Colombia y otros 150 países, contra las Farc.

Quienes regresaron del secuestro antes que ella contaron de sus "hazañas". Y en el famoso computador de 'Raúl Reyes' también se encontraron huellas de su entereza: "Hasta donde conozco, esta señora es de temperamento volcánico, es grosera y provocadora con los guerrilleros encargados de cuidarla", les decía 'Reyes' a sus compañeros del Secretariado.

�ngrid, además, intentó fugarse más de cuatro veces en los dos primeros años. Pero su anhelo de libertad se convirtió en su peor castigo. Después de la última fuga que intentó con Luis Eladio Pérez, ya en 2007, de la que se devolvieron por problemas de salud del ex congresista, le pusieron cadenas en el cuello. Muchos otros, en esas circunstancias, ya habrían doblegado su rebeldía. Pero �ngrid no. Ella pataleó. No estaba dispuesta a dejarse poner las cadenas. Y tuvieron que golpearla para dominarla.

¿Qué tan bien le puede ir?

Nadie duda que �ngrid Betancourt se va a lanzar a la Presidencia. O si se quiere, a volver a conectarse con la campaña que había dejado empezada el 23 de febrero de 2002, cuando la secuestraron.

Eso lo dejaron claro quienes compartieron más tiempo con ella en el cautiverio. Ni por un momento dejó a un lado su interés por la política. "Me decía que aún quería ser presidente de Colombia", escribió el subintendente John Frank Pinchao en su libro, luego de su fuga en abril de 2007.

�ngrid diseñó un programa de gobierno de 190 puntos, el cual no sólo discutía muchas tardes con Luis Eladio Pérez después de la clase de francés, sino que le contó a Pinchao.

Además de lo básico que debe tener cualquier programa de gobierno -educación gratuita y una Colombia mejor y más participativa-, en su programa tiene la idea de construir un tren de gran velocidad (como los TGV de Europa) para unir el sur con el norte del país, una ciudad en el Magdalena Medio, al estilo Brasilia, para darles cabida y posibilidades de desarrollo a todos los desplazados, el metro para Bogotá y convertir Ciudad Bolívar en un lugar turístico.

A casi dos años de las próximas elecciones, �ngrid sin duda arranca la carrera con una buena ventaja.

"Indudablemente será una jugadora de primera línea -dice Jorge Londoño, presidente de Invamer Gallup-. Es un personaje con un reconocimiento altísimo. Lo que falta por ver es cómo utiliza ese reconocimiento en libertad".

La experiencia reciente ha mostrado que la opinión pública en Colombia es agradecida con los secuestrados que logran su libertad y se meten en la arena política. Por ejemplo, el caso del canciller, Fernando Araújo, quien en los dos años que lleva en libertad, y tras el nombramiento como ministro, aumentó su popularidad del 26 al 44 por ciento.

De todas maneras manejar las expectativas de una opinión pública puede no ser fácil y en buena parte dependerá de cuáles son los temas que se posicionan como prioritarios en la agenda del país de cara a las elecciones.

Sin el tema es el de la seguridad y de la guerra, sin duda, el hoy ministro de Defensa, Juan Manuel Santos, tiene una buena ventaja sobre el resto de los candidatos. Pero si la guerra se da por superada, o por lo menos se siente la necesidad de dar un paso hacia la reconciliación y de superar la crisis humanitaria, sin duda �ngrid podría encarnar mejor ese mensaje. En uno y otro rubro de la opinión son muchos otros los candidatos que entran a competir.

En sus primeras declaraciones, si bien no lo dijo tajantemente, dio a entender que la candidatura está en sus planes. "Sólo Dios sabe". Y alcanzó a dar puntadas políticas: dijo que la reelección de Uribe había sido un golpe para las Farc, pero, a renglón seguido, señaló que eso no quiere decir que esté de acuerdo con todo lo que ha hecho el Presidente.

De cualquier manera, y es toda una paradoja, el hombre que tuvo un papel protagónico en su liberación, el ministro Juan Manuel Santos, se podría convertir en uno de sus más duros rivales en la contienda electoral. n?


http://www.semana.com/wf_InfoArticulo.aspx?idArt=113226


We have not heard the last of Ms. Betancourt.
GO INGRID!!!

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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tasco66 says on Jul 3, 2008, 11:38:

I think she stands better chances of being elected President of France than President of Colombia. She is much more popular over there...

Bravo, Presidente Uribe for the perfect operation!

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jul 3, 2008, 11:40:

Ingrid has 70% acceptance rating in Colombia. Only Uribe gets better ratings than that.

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jul 3, 2008, 11:41:

"Con �?ngrid Betancourt se dio un fenómeno singular. Cuando los guerrilleros se la llevaron para lo profundo de la selva, su popularidad estaba en el piso, apenas el 24 por ciento de imagen favorable, y ahora regresa con índices de popularidad del 71 por ciento, sólo superados por los del presidente �?lvaro Uribe."

Didn't you read the article I posted, tasco?

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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morphus says on Jul 3, 2008, 11:43:

" Ã?ngrid still appeared on the ballot for the presidential elections; her husband promised to continue her campaign. In the end, she achieved less than 1% of the votes"

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huskie says on Jul 3, 2008, 11:46:

Desi: I thought you were a staunch supporter of Gaviria, The Polo Democratico character
Cheers

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kalder says on Jul 3, 2008, 11:52:

billyb- "Maybe angelina jolie can play her in the movie??"

That sounds uncannily prescient to me.

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jul 3, 2008, 11:53:

Not "staunch". As politically independent I ususally choose the candidate with the best platform. Gaviria is fine, but I have nothing but deepest admiration and respect for Ingrid and I think the time is ripe for a female pressie in Colombia after Uribe the macho man.

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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morphus says on Jul 3, 2008, 11:58:

" On February 23, 2002, she was stopped at the last military checkpoint before going into the former DMZ. Military officers insisted that Betancourt and her party not continue in their effort to reach San Vicente del Caguan, the village used for the peace talks. San Vicente's mayor was the only Oxigeno elected official in the entire country by then. Intense fighting was taking place inside the DMZ and the security situation was rapidly deteriorating. Betancourt dismissed their warnings and she continued her journey"

Does'nt sound like a wise woman to me. No respect for the Colombian military either.

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huskie says on Jul 3, 2008, 11:59:

HAHA smart choice, Desi
Cheers

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tasco66 says on Jul 3, 2008, 11:59:

Shakira is also popular in Colombia, it does not mean she could be elected as President...

Bravo, Presidente Uribe for the perfect operation!

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tasco66 says on Jul 3, 2008, 12:01:

Desi said "As politically independent"

Hey, that's just like me...

Bravo, Presidente Uribe for the perfect operation!

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huskie says on Jul 3, 2008, 12:03:

BB I think maybe Sofia Vegara might be a better choice for the role, HAHAHA. I think Angelina is way too busy with more important projects than to play the fool Betancourt is.
Cheers

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Lisa Zee says on Jul 3, 2008, 12:03:

Can Ingrid relax and have some privet time with her family, take a bubble bath, have a manicure, and relax on the beach ,maybe in the south or France, or do whatever she likes?. don`t you think she deserves that? are we going to criticises every single move she makes!

LEAVE HER ALONE! Show some class and respect!

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huskie says on Jul 3, 2008, 12:06:

Yeah Desi, that was 6 years ago, Ms Betancourt's popularity. 6 years ago!! time will tell how popular she is going to be... after she has been released and the rest of the hostages are still in captivity
Cheers

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droble77 says on Jul 3, 2008, 12:10:

LOL, Jolie does look a bit like the pre-secuestro Ingrid so that's definitely possible! :-))

But what makes me laugh the most is that the Ingrid love-fest didn't even last 24 hours on PBH. Last night, she was "classy" as one poster put it. Now, everyone's going back to dogging her (and France) just like a few months back, there were several threads that EVISCERATED her! Talk about, ahem, "flip-flopping" ;-)

I have a funny feeling she may very well decide to spend a couple of years just being a MOTHER to her children. She's already lost so much, would she actually campaign and lose even more time away from her family? And if she does somehow win, which I grant is extremely unlikely, that would rule out even more quality time with the family. . .

Still, she does seem to have a bit of a "look at me, I'm so different/heroic/special" type of personality which got her into this mess in the first place!

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jul 3, 2008, 12:11:

No huskie, it's NOW, after her release.

She is more popular now than she has ever been.
"ahora regresa con índices de popularidad del 71 por ciento, sólo superados por los del presidente �?lvaro Uribe."

Her ratings were just around 24% when she was abducted.

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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webmanco says on Jul 3, 2008, 12:13:

Ingrid might spend her time just like elmo between New York where her daughter studies Colombia where her "roots" are and France where I asume her son lives, now what would Elmo do in France?

...A yo, déjenme queto y no me jodan má! ...

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juancegomez says on Jul 3, 2008, 12:16:

I cannot say I would automatically vote for her, but I am completely willing to listen carefully to her proposals and eventual platform, when the time comes.

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aztec says on Jul 3, 2008, 12:17:

Let her run for president. That will settle the debate. Speculation is just that.

Depends upon who you ask about her. The people I talk with in Colombia wouldn't vote for her if she was the last person in Colombia. Most "thinking" people there (in Colombia) think she is a twitt!

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jul 3, 2008, 12:18:

I just say time will tell, for now everybody is feeling happy and overwhelm, just let the happy mood calm down.

So far what i have seen or read about her and her interviews she seem very modest and very grateful with the president and his army.. i am starting to like her :))))

For now the best thing she can do is go to France and relax and catch up with her two children :)) and have a nice French wine

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ColombianoGringo says on Jul 3, 2008, 12:26:

I have nothing against Ingrid, but I wonder if all those saying how great she'd be as president even knew who she was before she was kidnapped, let alone supported her for president. I certainly respect her and feel very glad that she's been freed, but being a strong willed captive does not qualify her to be president. She was widely disliked in Colombia before her captivity. One would assume that her lack of popularity was due at least in part to her policies.

Desi, You say that you support the best candidate with the best platform. Do you support Ingrid for president? If so, what specific planks of Ingrid's platform incline you to do so, particularly those not directly related to the situation of the remaining hostages? This question also applies to others who claim to support her for president.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jul 3, 2008, 12:55:

This is what I wrote about her in another thread, not that long ago. That explains a little of my political affinity with her.

She was not "widely disliked" in Colombia. When she was elected senator she got the highest voting count that far in Colombia.

Desideria (Moderator) says on Dec 1, 2007, 13:24

"Ok, so let's set some things straight to start with.
She's not just some frail, French girl. She's Colombian, with a double nationality, French-Colombian. Her father was stationed in Paris on an international assignment and she went to La Sorbonne and married a French diplomat (the father of her two children). Her dad was an ex-minister in Colombia and her mother is an ex-beauty queen Yolanda Pulecio.

She divorced from her French husband and moved back to Colombia to fight the political corruption in her country with some success. She became senator with the highest voting account in the Colombian history and started a political party, The Green Oxygen party and she was intrumental in bringing ex-president Samper to justice on accounts of corruption (he had received campaign contribution monies from the Cali Cartel)

She was a presidential candidate when she was kidnapped; she foolishly ventured into guerrilla country claiming the access for all Colombian territory being for every Colombian citizen. She made ONE huge mistake and has paid for it with five years of her life, her health and perhaps her sanity.

I have nothing but enormous respect and admiration for this courageous woman and anybody who wants to get to know her better please read her book: "Until Death Does Us Apart, My Struggle To Reclaim Colombia"


http://poorbuthappy.com/colombia/post/what-is-the-score-with-ingrid-be...

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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Lcacique says on Jul 3, 2008, 13:02:

Some of us actually knew of Ingrid before the kidnapping, thank you. And I admired much of what she stood for then. She had a broad understanding of the issues that Colombia was/is facing. And I admired her for being so outspoken against gov't corruption which has always been a serious problem in Colombia, one that aggravates many of the other problems. She also didn't ignore the atrocities that were being committed by the paras like many other politicians, recognizing that ALL of the illegal armed groups (and drug cartels) were responsible for Colombia's instability. In addition, she was a critic of the US drug war in Colombia which focuses on spraying the crops of poor peasants creating the illusion that something is being done. She was absolutely right, the US policy towards Colombia with respect to drug cultivation was and is a complete failure. Is she presidential material...who in the hell knows? Quite frankly, I don't care if she runs for public office anywhere. I am simply happy that she has been afforded the opportunity to be reunited with her family and that Colombia is one step closer to solving one of its issues.

Hoy se nota en la floresta un ambiente de alegría. ¡Y el rumor de ranchería es mas dulce y sabe a fiesta!

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ColombianoGringo says on Jul 3, 2008, 13:04:

Well. A 24% approval rating doesn't exactly equate to being loved by all.

While I don't entirely disagree with the rest of your post, it doesn't directly answer the question of your support for her as president or the platform planks upon which you base your support or lack thereof. I understand if you don't wish to answer.

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huskie says on Jul 3, 2008, 13:05:

I would not waste my money on buying her book
Cheers

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ColombianoGringo says on Jul 3, 2008, 13:06:

Lc, Honestly, regardless of her politics(which I don't necessarily disagree with), I too am glad that she has the freedom to even contemplate running for president.

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tasco66 says on Jul 3, 2008, 13:07:

"While I don't entirely disagree with the rest of your post, it doesn't directly answer the question"

Surprise, surprise???

Bravo, Presidente Uribe for the perfect operation!

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jul 3, 2008, 13:11:

CG, the question is totally academic for me since I can't vote in Colombia. I agree with her policies to fight corruption and her environmental policies, but she has probably written or planned a totally new agenda in her captivity. I would have to read her entire revised political program/platform to be able to make up my mind.

Huskie, buy and read the book. It's not great literature but it gives you an idea where she stands politically and her personality. You like strong women in politics, you might be positively surprised by Ms. Betancourt.

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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Lcacique says on Jul 3, 2008, 13:17:

I do not doubt it at all, ColombianoGringo. I don't pretend to know everything about her or her politics, but I was impressed by her years ago when she was in the Senate. Having said that, I am not at all certain that she would make a good president. I do not have enough information or familiarity with her to make that kind of claim. Nevertheless, many that bash her, IMHO, seem to do so for the most shallow of reasons and I question how much genuine knowledge they have about her.

Hoy se nota en la floresta un ambiente de alegría. ¡Y el rumor de ranchería es mas dulce y sabe a fiesta!

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tasco66 says on Jul 3, 2008, 13:24:

Desi said:

Desideria (Moderator) says on Jul 3, 2008, 10:46: flag
Igrid for President!!!

And later said:

Desideria (Moderator) says on Jul 3, 2008, 13:11: flag
I would have to read her entire revised political program/platform to be able to make up my mind.

Now that makes sense!

Bravo, Presidente Uribe for the perfect operation!

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billyb says on Jul 3, 2008, 13:49:

Why o why all the hatin' on ingrid? I think she would make an exellent ambassador of France to Colombia.

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billyb says on Jul 3, 2008, 13:52:

"But what makes me laugh the most is that the Ingrid love-fest didn't even last 24 hours on PBH."

jajaja, droble, blame it on the 24 hour news cycle, you know, been there, done that.

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pedro says on Jul 3, 2008, 13:55:

Celine Dion could play Ingrid in the film.

And the whole movie would be shot in Ecuador or Mexico, naturellement. :o)

que nota!

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billyb says on Jul 3, 2008, 13:57:

"And I admired her for being so outspoken against gov't corruption which has always been a serious problem in Colombia"

Although lcacique, that didn't quite prevent her from a dating a senator that got in trouble for corruption, might this be a case of do as I say and not as I do?

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billyb says on Jul 3, 2008, 13:58:

"She had a broad understanding of the issues that Colombia was/is facing"

That is generally a good quality for anybody running for president of Colombia, was not aware she was the only one that had it.

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billyb says on Jul 3, 2008, 14:00:

Pedro, you they do look like they were separated at birth.

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tasco66 says on Jul 3, 2008, 14:03:

"She had a broad understanding of the issues that Colombia was/is facing"

Well if that’s all you need, that qualifies every PBH member to the Colombian Presidency (or at least that’s what they think)…Jajaja

Bravo, Presidente Uribe for the perfect operation!

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Lcacique says on Jul 3, 2008, 14:30:

I love all of the attention that I am receiving for supposedly arguing that she'd make a good president. Did I claim she'd make a good president or that she was electable?

Glad that you recognize that it is all in your head, tasco66...hopefully the others do as well.

Hoy se nota en la floresta un ambiente de alegría. ¡Y el rumor de ranchería es mas dulce y sabe a fiesta!

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miamimike says on Jul 4, 2008, 00:18:

A Little off topic but too good of an opening to pass up;

"but I was impressed by her years ago when she was in the Senate. Having said that, I am not at all certain that she would make a good president."


Sound like John McCain? LOL

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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goin_south says on Jul 4, 2008, 00:32:

SHE'S .... ALOT !!! DILLUSIONAL!!! I THINK.

or, as Elmo would say: FOKIN CRAZY!

Where do we go from here?

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chrispej says on Jul 4, 2008, 00:33:

Inbred Betancourt for president? She'll be assinated in her first year. There are some really pissed off people in Colombia right now.......

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goin_south says on Jul 4, 2008, 00:35:

"Can Ingrid relax and have some privet time with her family"

ABSOLUTELY FOKIN .... NOTTTTTT!

NO ONE CARES, really, in this microwave world, that she has spent five or six quick years in the Jungle.

and, neither will I buy her book,... becuase most of it will be posted right here on pbh for all to read.

and,... thanx.

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goin_south says on Jul 4, 2008, 00:36:

LET ME TELL YOU ALL RIGHT HERE AN NOW:

ingrid will NEVA.... NEVA... NEVA... be de presidente de colombia.

that's right; your listening to my instincts; NEVA.
NEVA SAY NEVA, BUT IN THIS CASE:.......................NEVA.

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chrispej says on Jul 4, 2008, 00:52:

Let's remember, there are still an estimated several hundred hostages held by the farc. Inbred running for president could cause a major loss of life. She needs to go away. Once the farc is gone then maybe she can run but now, she could potentially cause the death of many Colombians.

Like I said, there are some really, really pissed off people in Colombia right now.

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goin_south says on Jul 4, 2008, 00:59:

I agree, chrispeje... and even though my 'live-in' novia disagrees...

But, let me re-iterate:
.............................. INGRID WILL.........NEVA..........BE PRESIDENT OF LOCOMBIA.

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goin_south says on Jul 4, 2008, 01:00:

forget it.
no way.
nada.
neva.
nunca siemprE!

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goin_south says on Jul 4, 2008, 01:00:

any questions?

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goin_south says on Jul 4, 2008, 01:01:

claro?

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goin_south says on Jul 4, 2008, 01:01:

o, no?

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huskie says on Jul 4, 2008, 05:07:

Yes GS you are right neva, neva, neva
Happy 4th
Cheers

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds-"

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