best way to send money to the girlfriend

Atrevido says on May 4, 2008, 19:01:

Other options: I don´t know what Western Union charges but the cheapest for you might be giving her a US debit card the next time you see her. Obviously it would be one that you don´t need to use for yourself in the states. You just deposit and she withdraws from atms. Depending on the US bank the card is from the bank fees on a $260.00 (or $500.000 peso) atm withdrawal are around $3.

Buongone says on May 4, 2008, 19:06:

Try using an Ikobo debit card. Check them out at www.Ikobo.com They are cheaper than Western Union. Ikobo Inc. 1-866-800-4562.

darwel says on May 4, 2008, 19:23:

www.citibank.com was free until early this year. Now it's 2% to use the card at an ATM or a retail outlet. I'd like to go back to free but don't know where to find it.

darwel

MountainTop says on May 4, 2008, 19:29:

no fee if you use at citbank locations though which there are in Colombia

robi666 says on May 4, 2008, 19:31:

What's happening? Is the old real PBH soul lost forever?
Aaah, good old times when a chance like this would not go lost...

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

MountainTop says on May 4, 2008, 19:32:

Well start the ball rolling.

slguy says on May 4, 2008, 19:32:

i have teethmarks on my tongue, robi.;)

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

bradk says on May 4, 2008, 19:32:

ok lets hear it.

MountainTop says on May 4, 2008, 19:34:

Where did you meet this girl?

bradk says on May 4, 2008, 19:35:

villavicencio

slguy says on May 4, 2008, 19:35:

rare is the case where sending money south every month turns out well, brad. but it's your money....

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

bradk says on May 4, 2008, 19:36:

i know but weve been together over a year now and its getting serious you could be right but i am willing to give it a try to see where it goes

MountainTop says on May 4, 2008, 19:39:

You met her on vacation and you live in US now?

robi666 says on May 4, 2008, 19:40:

"villavicencio"
are you paying vacuna to some new groups?

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

bradk says on May 4, 2008, 19:41:

yes met her on vacation and i live in the US been back to see her four times in the last 14 months

MountainTop says on May 4, 2008, 19:41:

Show us a photo I will tell you how much you should send a month.

bradk says on May 4, 2008, 19:42:

jajaja

Lisa Zee says on May 4, 2008, 20:16:

Can I have a boyfriend here to send me money? nobody sends me money. Why do you guys are sending money to a girl in another country?

There robi666; I could not hold it any longer!

Catfish35 says on May 4, 2008, 20:28:

My God! You fellas are right..this guy went totally unscathed with this post! Everybody gets a "good boy" treat!

"I refuse to have a battle of intelligence with an unarmed person, therefore I will just speak as the simpleton you have come to love"

Catfish35 says on May 4, 2008, 20:29:

LisaZ...bebe you need money? How much? I will talk to Raaay and Robi about this when I get there next monday!

"I refuse to have a battle of intelligence with an unarmed person, therefore I will just speak as the simpleton you have come to love"

Lisa Zee says on May 4, 2008, 20:39:

Claro que si!, i need $, I am very poor, single mother and i suppor my parents tambien, i work in a cantina all night long and work in a factory part time so my juancito can eat and go to school. So please send me money, my boyfriend here in Colombia can`t get a job ether. LOL

Catfish35 says on May 4, 2008, 20:41:

He needs money too?

"I refuse to have a battle of intelligence with an unarmed person, therefore I will just speak as the simpleton you have come to love"

miamimike says on May 4, 2008, 20:43:

Hey Brad Buddy, Forget about sending her Money! Just send her one those Proverbial "Dollar Trees" we Gringos all have in our Back Yard and she'll be set for life.! Oh,,,and please send her the Fast Re-Growth Ben Franklin $100 Model,,,nothing less then the "Real Deal" will do,,,

Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." GW Bush

Lisa Zee says on May 4, 2008, 20:44:

Claro que si, he smokes so much his lungs estan muy malos, and he is in bed, this is why i need some nice gringo to send me money.

Catfish35 says on May 4, 2008, 21:42:

Bebe, tu madre tiene grippa also?

"I refuse to have a battle of intelligence with an unarmed person, therefore I will just speak as the simpleton you have come to love"

Rubito says on May 4, 2008, 21:45:

Robi, I got it, don't worry.

Why not give yourself several hundred paper cuts with the sharpest-edge paper you can find, then pour salt, vinegar and sulfuric acid on them? It'll be less painful in the long run :)

Lisa Zee, in the words of Hannibal Lechter,

quid
pro
quo

:)

---Violence is the price of freedom.---

CatGirl says on May 4, 2008, 22:04:

So glad someone said "something" !! I got worried when I saw the post

Lisa Zee - Good One Amiga, jajaja. Let me know if the boys keep their word ;))

ooops! ....Did I say that?

OneHappyBoy says on May 4, 2008, 22:10:

My wife and I are involved in the visa process right now.... I send her a little cash every few weeks, but I try to keep it a sane amount. We use Money gram. Its costs a flat $10 each time.. We thought about the ATM route, but fees vary so much, and if she loses the card, then she's screwed, so, for $10, I wire it in the morning, she has constructive use by the afternoon..

So, on a side note; some little sh** pulls up to her walking down the street, on his bike, and asked her for money.. She said, " no money". He said, 'gimme your cellular phone" She told him to F*** off...So, one are Colombian petty criminals REALLY that inept? and two, is it common in broad day light to have some dumb A** try to victimize you?- We are talking a nice barrio in North Bogota?

Words are just words. nothing more or less, but eloquently expressed, like a symphony to Beethoven's ear, no army can defeat and no oppression can exist.

goin_south says on May 4, 2008, 22:23:

It can get much worse, HappyBoy.

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!

CatGirl says on May 4, 2008, 22:25:

Sorry to hear that. Maybe we should fight back and put this crazy Scoplo. drug on things that you get mugged for and get the mugger! jaja. Or wear spiked heels (as a woman) and kick em in the eye.

Crazy stuff!!

ooops! ....Did I say that?

Rubito says on May 4, 2008, 22:29:

Maybe she didn't want the bank card because she already has several and keeps getting the pin numbers confused :P

---Violence is the price of freedom.---

Buongone says on May 4, 2008, 23:25:

I had someone from Emoneygram hack 2500 US out of my bank account. What a goat rope that was. Got my money back once I made it back to the US. Had a hassle getting back to the US. Because I had to close all accounts because of somebody with Emoneygram. Will never use them again. Ikobo is the best, I think.

miamimike says on May 4, 2008, 23:32:

So, on a side note; some little sh** pulls up to her walking down the street, on his bike, and asked her for money.. She said, " no money". He said, 'gimme your cellular phone" She told him to F*** off...So, one are Colombian petty criminals REALLY that inept? and two, is it common in broad day light to have some dumb A** try to victimize you?- We are talking a nice barrio in North Bogota?
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Happy Boy--when you say a "Sane Amount" I hope it really is sane and not like Hundreds,,,

On the "Nice barrio in North Bogota" a Colombian friend of mine who didn't give Papaya was taken for a pretty scary Cab Ride in the cab he caught across from the Santa Barbara Mall- a Very Nice area most would say. When he got into the Radio dispatched cab, another car zipped in behind his cab and two guys got in the back seat next to him on both sides so he knew he was in for trouble. And he called this Cab, it wasn't a random cab hailed from the street. The Driver later claimed he knew "Nothing" It was like 8 pm at night and they took him blindfolded down to the Railyard Switching Yard (south bogota) by where the Tourist train departs(not a place to be after the sun goes down) and after leading him from the car, stood him next to a Building nose first after they robbed him of what little he had on him. Told him not to move for 15 minutes or they would shoot him. Just goes to show even in nice areas you can get hit on and he was a Colombian born in Bogota, spoke Native spanish from Bogota, appeared not like a Gringo but the Triguena Complexion blackhaired browneyed Colombian he is in reality,,,And he was robbed here for the first time after traveling all over south america for 25 years as a Tech Rep for IBM so he was fairly street smart and not some Gringo giving Papaya on his maiden journey to Colombia. It was 2 blocks from his sister's house,,,

Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." GW Bush

OneHappyBoy says on May 5, 2008, 00:41:

I send $175/month-never more than $75 at a time.. enough to pay her health insurance and cellular and a bit of spending money.. No more...I fly her up here every two months and if she needs things, I buy them here, I never send cash to her to buy clothes, or finance "family distress issues, etc. etc.We keep it simple and sweet and capped the dollar amount, the rest is up to her until the visa goes through.

Miamimike- that definitely opened my eyes! My time in Bogota has been surrounded by my family and we tend to only go out in larger groups, so I haven't really been exposed to the grittier side of Bogota and I was actually quite shocked, when she told me what happened. I expected more of what you discribed, rather than her version, so I thought that guy is going to starve as a criminal is he takes no for an answer.. DON'T GET ME WRONG! I am glad he did!!!

Words are just words. nothing more or less, but eloquently expressed, like a symphony to Beethoven's ear, no army can defeat and no oppression can exist.

Atrevido says on May 5, 2008, 04:57:

You know come to think of it I regret my original response. Sending money to someone who isn´t family is a BAD idea. No Colombian would do it. You start that and you will never again know what the basis of her interest is: you or the money. You can be guarenteed it will poison the relationship. And then their was the case in Terron Colorado, Cali a few months ago where a gringo sent her money, the Colombian boyfriend found out about it, kidnapped her to extort the gringo and ended up killing her in Ginebra.

morphus says on May 5, 2008, 05:42:

Sending money promotes laziness.

Jlove says on May 5, 2008, 06:11:

If you ahve to send money, Western Union can do it next day for 4 dollar from TX or 7 dollars to receive it in minutes. I also have a girlfriend waiting on her visa and I must agree with the other people, if you can avoid it. Once it starts, it is hard to control and it does poison your relationship to a degree. I have seen colombian girls change and become egoista and mad if you some day tell them no. If you have to help her, keep it as low as possible and the basics.

gringoloid says on May 5, 2008, 06:20:

bradk.............wherever you 'set the bar' in the beginning of a relationship..........you must maintain that forever................for life.................

once they get used to that level of financial nourishment you have to keep it up or watchout brother, the relationship is over.

most of us here recommend not sending any money at all.

slguy says on May 5, 2008, 06:56:

"bradk says on Sunday May 4th, 2008 19:36:

i know but weve been together over a year now and its getting serious you could be right but i am willing to give it a try to see where it goes"

" bradk says on Sunday May 4th, 2008 19:41:

yes met her on vacation and i live in the US been back to see her four times in the last 14 months"

ummm..no. you haven't "been together over a year". you've nailed her 4 times on vacation. huge difference.

have you given any thought at all to - exactly what sort of woman would be comfortable taking money from a man she's seen four times?

puts me in mind of the old joke....

man approaches gorgeous woman and says "my god, you're beautiful! would you have sex w/ me for a million dollars?"

after a moment's thought, she agrees.

then the man says "how about for $50?"

incensed, she responds "$50?? what do you think i am?"

"we already established what you are - now we're just dickering on price.."

no insult to your girl intended...just a little food for thought.

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

Saltador says on May 5, 2008, 07:38:

slguy,
To play devils advocate I think you read that wrong, he's been to see her four different trips, could be a week or two each time, maybe he's nailed her twice a day (to make up for lost time) now you're talking nailing her maybe 80 times, not 4. Big difference. And maybe vale la pena.
In all seriousness, try xoom.com, just like Western Union but way cheaper.
ATM card works best of all. Open one with no transaction fees. Don't worry, she's not going to lose her ATM card. Would you lose the goose who laid the golden eggs?

slguy says on May 5, 2008, 07:45:

yep. clearly, i didn't think it thru. ;)

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

caligula says on May 5, 2008, 07:56:

HAHAHA LMFAO Good one Slguy!!! Any one wanna send me some money? Amor de llejos...

caligula says on May 5, 2008, 08:13:

Cheaper 2 get a hooker..

miamimike says on May 5, 2008, 08:45:

One Happy Boy--where my friend got nailed in the Taxi is not the Gritty side of Bogota, its a pretty nice area. In Colombia this could have happened anywhere, what happened to my friend,,,

Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." GW Bush

CatGirl says on May 5, 2008, 09:23:

Slgy: "have you given any thought at all to - exactly what sort of woman would be comfortable taking money from a man she's seen four times?"

No matter how many times they have ***** this is the voice of reason. Just something to think about and keep in mind ;)

ooops! ....Did I say that?

Rubito says on May 5, 2008, 09:35:

I recommend sending the money directly to the girls' REAL boyfriends. It cuts out on the middleman. Why are we making the banks richer for nothing? :)

---Violence is the price of freedom.---

slguy says on May 5, 2008, 09:39:

exactly, rubito

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

CatGirl says on May 5, 2008, 11:42:

jejeje...Si

ooops! ....Did I say that?

caligula says on May 5, 2008, 18:16:

Ya hit the hammer on the head Rubito....See, I KNEW IT!! Thanx for the clarification Cat girl.. Us bone-head guys woulda never figured it out without your simple (but EVER so effective) Si....

manINred says on May 5, 2008, 18:19:

Western Union is probably the cheapest and most efficient. Bank wires have a tendency to mess up from time to time. Perhaps a bank draft? But it might get lost in the mail.

Robert Jorge says on May 5, 2008, 20:43:

Bradk, how do you like Villavicencio?

christobeldawg says on May 5, 2008, 20:47:

is she sending you money, to sorta help out with a few things? I mean, we are in a recession in the US, I'm sure she will understand.

admittedly, arriving can feel great too

bradk says on May 5, 2008, 22:06:

i love villavicencio robert jorge

travelingirl says on May 5, 2008, 22:10:

Good one, dawg. ;)

Around her hair she wore a yellow ribbon...

slguy says on May 5, 2008, 22:11:

ummmm, dawg? never mind..;)

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

travelingirl says on May 5, 2008, 22:16:

Watch out, slguy! ;)

Around her hair she wore a yellow ribbon...

Frank Rizzo says on May 5, 2008, 22:21:

Why should slguy be watchin out?? travelingirl??? he'll get banned??

christobeldawg says on May 5, 2008, 22:25:

mi chica nunca ask por denero. She feels it is her birthright

admittedly, arriving can feel great too

slguy says on May 5, 2008, 22:26:

:-)

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

travelingirl says on May 5, 2008, 22:29:

Frank, no, I meant slguy should watch out for Dawg. hehe

Around her hair she wore a yellow ribbon...

christobeldawg says on May 5, 2008, 22:39:

and yes, he does watch out for me, or at least, tries to, he just has trouble finding me before I have already screwed something up. jaja

admittedly, arriving can feel great too

Robert Jorge says on May 6, 2008, 00:33:

bradk, I lived in Villavo for a while a couple of years ago. I loved it too.

kat1 (Moderator) says on May 6, 2008, 02:08:

men never learn, I post a few month ago about a girl whose gringo BF was sending her money, every time the paycheck arrived, she used to invited my sis and other friends a parrandear,

Como el titulo del libro "Petroleo Colombiano Ganancia gringa" Aqui es Dollar gringo parranda Colombiana...

rocinante says on May 6, 2008, 05:50:

Yeah a lot of the girls here get money and have other boyfriends here. Hell even the ones not getting money have boyfreinds. It's common.

Western Union is the absolute worst. $25 bucks to send $150 using a credit card over the web? That's outrageous.

Best way is to hook her up with a no fee ATM card that goes against a checking account. The checking account IS NOT ATTACHED to a second account: savings account which is also under your name. This means that if the check account has $50 and the sav has $2,000 and someone charges/withdraws $100 the check acc won't borrow from the savings account - as this would defeat the purpose of control. Deposit money in the savings, manually transfer to the checking from savings via PC from your home and this way you have control. This is what I do for my own personal withdrawls.

You get the best eschange rate, can go to ANY ATM in Colombia and if someone gets your card or takes you for a ride there is only a little bit available as most of the money is in the savings account which is not attached to the card.

I have two bank cards, from two different US banks with this scenario. It's good to have two in case you lose one and/or if you withdraw frequently as the banks only allow 4 transfers from Sav to Check per month.

IF you don't want to give an ATM card before the 3rd date look up Ria Envia. You have to go there in person and hand over the cash. But the fees are low low low.

"World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Peso 1400 by November" Feb 5, 2008

huskie says on May 6, 2008, 06:19:

expert advice
cheers

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds-"

Saltador says on May 6, 2008, 06:28:

Yep, I have my accounts set up just like Rocinante.

billyb says on May 6, 2008, 06:34:

If you want to send money to your colombian girlfriend, just send it to her colombian boyfriend instead and cut out the middleman (or i this case middlewoman) as he's going to wind up with it anyways.

goin_south says on May 6, 2008, 06:43:

Send it to me; I'll launder it, and make sure she gets 'CLEAN MONEY'.

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!

billyb says on May 6, 2008, 06:48:

You're the Prop-Joe of PBH?

slguy says on May 6, 2008, 06:53:

brad, it seems you aren't gonna listen to any of us cynics, anyway, but i'm gonna share a little story with you..

a little over a year ago, i was in bogota visiting my then-girlfriend. she's a very accomplished, self-sufficient lady (who i was prolly an idiot to let get away) .

she wanted to trade cars, and had talked by phone with the dealership about the model she wanted, and the price. she asked if i would go with her to make the deal, knowing the advantage of having a guy there, vs. single woman. when we arrived, they bait/switched her a little, claiming to have sold the specific car she wanted, earlier in the day, but had this minimally upgraded model for about an extra US$800. she told them that she couldn't afford the extra $ just then, but that she'd return in 2-3 weeks, when she was due to collect a business payment (she's a realtor).

i knew she had her heart set on this new car, and while she didn't show it, was very disappointed - so i took her aside, and suggested loaning her the money, until her other money arrived. i had never seen this woman more than mildly perturbed - but the anger in her eyes at my offer could have peeled my skin off. i was...mystified.

when she finally spoke to me again, hours later, she said (more or less) "if/when you're my husband, your offer is appropriate. until then, NEVER insult me in this manner again. i am NOT your puta!"

classy lady. get my point, brad? ;)

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

rocinante says on May 6, 2008, 06:57:

"Send it to me; I'll launder it, and make sure she gets 'CLEAN MONEY'." GS

So now that your wife is in it looks like laundry is finally getting done at your place? Just kidding congrats!

"World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Peso 1400 by November" Feb 5, 2008

CatGirl says on May 6, 2008, 07:37:

Dawg "is she sending you money, to sorta help out with a few things? I mean, we are in a recession in the US, I'm sure she will understand"

You crack me up!

BradK - please don"t take offense. I think you should really give what Roci and Slygy have commented on and give it some thought. You also posted something about getting her a Visa too (??). Hmmmm. Good Luck ;)

ooops! ....Did I say that?

Saltador says on May 6, 2008, 07:38:

billyb,
How does he find out the name of the boyfriend? He'll need that to send him the money.
Also, once he does that, it changes everything. He's not supposed to know about the boyfriend.
Not a very helpful suggestion.

CatGirl says on May 6, 2008, 07:44:

Saltador: I hope you are joking.....

ooops! ....Did I say that?

Saltador says on May 6, 2008, 07:51:

Nope. Just my take on the stereotyping and generalizing that never ends on PBH.
All colombianas that take money from gringos are putas that give that money to their real colombian boyfriends. That dead horse just never gets old...
And another thing...Did you ever think that to some of these guys it's just a matter of "vale la pena"? In other words, they send a few dollars over, then when they visit they have a little fun.
They don't really care what she's doing when they're not there. Vale la pena.
Wow. A new idea, a new spin on things. Am I on PBH?

billyb says on May 6, 2008, 08:01:

I guess we touched a raw nerve here ;)

Saltador says on May 6, 2008, 08:12:

Naww. Just explaining my sarcasm.

miamimike says on May 6, 2008, 08:34:

billyb says on Tuesday May 6th, 2008 6:34:

If you want to send money to your colombian girlfriend, just send it to her colombian boyfriend instead and cut out the middleman (or i this case middlewoman) as he's going to wind up with it anyways.

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LOL..Funny But Ooooooooooooooooooh so true!

Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." GW Bush

robi666 says on May 6, 2008, 08:36:

I am with Saltador on this.
What if he looses a few dollars?
What if the girl is really in needs? She may be forced to find other ways to get those few dollars...

In other words, we should be a little open minded sometimes. Things are not always the same...
I agree that it is an uncomfortable situation, but it is way better than believing "this is the third time she gets robbed" "her mother needs an urgent operation", like we have seen other times on PBH.

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

morphus says on May 6, 2008, 08:39:

Why not just find a girl with a job?

billyb says on May 6, 2008, 08:41:

""her mother needs an urgent operation",

Isn't it usually the grandmother that is always needing the op?

Robert Jorge says on May 6, 2008, 09:37:

Another common one is help for school fees. Whether it be the chick, her sister's son, etc.

billyb says on May 6, 2008, 09:43:

Yup, school fees for the nephew is a common one.

miamimike says on May 6, 2008, 11:20:

One I saw pulled on a friend of mine was the Woman told this guy she needed money tp pay a 24 hour Nurse to care for the "Sick Grandmother" so she come come and spend time with him in Florida So he sent like $400 monthly. Turns out, the Girl's grandmother had been deceased years before she even met this guy. She, it was discovered later, had used the money to pay off some huge Mastercard Credit Bills and to "Help" other family members(maybe the col novio was the other family member)? LOL,,,And while she was here in Florida at his house, she stole Gold Jewelry he had hidden away in an overhead ceiling A/C Duct. She was a pro-knew all the Good Hiding Spots where to look for the goodies. She must have made multi trips here to the USA prior to this Heist to know the Stash Spots so intimately in a US Home. Cleaned him out of $5000 worth of Jewelry, by todays Gold prices, it would be easily over $12,000 so she did OK by this guy.

Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." GW Bush

billyb says on May 6, 2008, 11:36:

But Mike, are we sure she didn't use what she stole to put her nephew through school? LOL>

Rubito says on May 6, 2008, 12:11:

billy you're slow on the uptake. I posted the same joke 20 posts ahead of you!

Saltador it's funny because it's true. No girl in Colombia takes money from a man on a monthly basis unless there is something like that up. :P

---Violence is the price of freedom.---

billyb says on May 6, 2008, 12:29:

jajaj, I see it now Rubi. Must be true then. The basic rule to follow is, what would you think about a woman in the US, or Europe asking you to support her family after one or two in-person meetings (if any at all), would you be so willing to part with your money then? Or would you suspect that you are some how being taken for the fool?

Rubito says on May 6, 2008, 12:35:

Yup. The girls play off of the gringos' silly fucking stupid fantasies about just how rough it is in Colombia and how nobody could EVER manage to support themselves let alone get ahead without a little help from the Great White Man and his deep pockets.

---Violence is the price of freedom.---

miamimike says on May 6, 2008, 12:50:

billyb says on Tuesday May 6th, 2008 11:36:

But Mike, are we sure she didn't use what she stole to put her nephew through school? LOL>

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BillyB--with all she pilfered and scammed out of this guy she could have sent 5 Nephews to School! LOL

Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." GW Bush

billyb says on May 6, 2008, 13:26:

To Harvard even. She sounds like she was world class.

miamimike says on May 6, 2008, 17:03:

She Was A Winner No Doubt, Much to the Dismay of my Friend. LOL

Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." GW Bush

lpdiver says on May 6, 2008, 17:47:

I guess I won the lottery. I sent my gf then wife $100 to $200 dollars per month over the course of the 27 months it took us to sort out her visa and relation ship.

Six years later we are still married. The two year magic green card dump the gringo time line has come and gone. Our three year old daughter is a joy to us both.

Go for the gusto!

Not all women from Colombia are hookers. Lighten up.

t

"cook some rice!"

christobeldawg says on May 6, 2008, 19:50:

careful lpdiver, these guys don't know what to say on success stories. You're putting pressure on 'em jaja

admittedly, arriving can feel great too

slguy says on May 6, 2008, 20:39:

honest to god..i'm delighted to hear it, lp.

would be cool to have a thread with firsthand winning/losing stories. the problem is - how many guys'll admit they let some gal play them? ;)

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

Rubito says on May 6, 2008, 20:59:

Sure we know what to say. Every rule has an exception.

---Violence is the price of freedom.---

christobeldawg says on May 6, 2008, 21:16:

ok then, the dawg's other name is the Exception. I have heard many success stories. I do wonder what the actual stats are, but we will never know.

admittedly, arriving can feel great too

christobeldawg says on May 6, 2008, 21:18:

Everybody has been played, and we have all played, but hopefully, with experience, and luck, everybody can find someone to enjoy spending their lives together with.

admittedly, arriving can feel great too

Rubito says on May 6, 2008, 21:18:

If we are talking sending the gf money on a monthly basis, I'd say it's not even 50/50 that the relationship is real and two-sided. If we're talking sending money monthly to a girl you've never met IRL much less actually had sex with that does down to maybe 1 in 100 or less :P

---Violence is the price of freedom.---

christobeldawg says on May 6, 2008, 21:21:

agreed Rubito

admittedly, arriving can feel great too

christobeldawg says on May 6, 2008, 21:24:

When I was first gettin my feet wet, I met a girl through the internet, who lived in Manizales. I, an idiot, told her that I would meet her in Bogota. She asked for the money for her flight. I am thinking, what about the money for my flight to Bogota, but anyway, I told her that she could take the bus. She seemed not so interested in the dawg anymore.

admittedly, arriving can feel great too

Rubito says on May 6, 2008, 21:36:

I had a Dominicana take a bus from Montreal to Toronto on her own dime to hang with me for some days back in the day and she STILL tried to pull the scams on me while she was there. Fortunately I had some friends who were really just like gold in those days when I was still getting my feet wet on Spanish-speaking culture. They let me know exactly what she was going to try and how she was going to try it and they were spot on. I sent the bitch packing :P

---Violence is the price of freedom.---

billyb says on May 7, 2008, 06:48:

Dawggie, that filter of asking her to take the bus probably saved you a lot of grief and gave you a chance to look around and make the right choice.

Tinto (Moderator) says on May 7, 2008, 06:53:

The "filter" may have worked, but how many of us would ride a bus for eight hours one way to meet some anonymous person from a foreign country that we met on the internet? I wouldn't and I wouldn't ask my "pen pal" to do the same. I think if people are going to use the internet to find DECENT dating prospects, they better have some serious vacation time and a fair amount of money on hand.

billyb says on May 7, 2008, 07:00:

If there was "something" there, maybe. If Jessica Alba sent me bus fare to meet her in LA, I would be there in a heartbeat.

Tinto (Moderator) says on May 7, 2008, 07:05:

True... I get your point. However, I wouldn't immediately cast someone as a grifter if they said they needed money for a plane ticket to meet me. If the other person is not financially independent, those requests shouldn't surprise me.

christobeldawg says on May 7, 2008, 07:06:

but BillyB, this right choice has not sent me any money yet.

admittedly, arriving can feel great too

billyb says on May 7, 2008, 07:08:

Not even bus fare?

billyb says on May 7, 2008, 07:09:

Tinto, I see your point on her not wanting to take the bus,(who would for dawggie), but he stated that she also lost interest in him.

goin_south says on May 7, 2008, 07:13:

send her the dough and TELL HER TO WALK ANYWAY! jaj

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!

Rubito says on May 7, 2008, 07:18:

Yeah but Tinto if you're already paying for a plane ticket to go most of the way down there and she can't come up with a means of getting a couple cities over in Colombia, that's pretty one-sided. Just because she's Colombian doesn't mean she has a great excuse for being a deadbeat! This isn't the freaking Sudan we are talking about here.

---Violence is the price of freedom.---

Tinto (Moderator) says on May 7, 2008, 07:25:

Rubito - To play Devil's Advocate (reckless without more known variables), what if the woman suspects Christobeldawg is coming to Bogota and using it as a base to meet all kinds of women from all over the region/country? There are some guys who do exactly that. So regardless of what's "fair" from a financial aspect, if she has self-respect and/or values her time, she wouldn't schlep over the mountains for eight hours, be asked/expected to shack up with a stranger on night one, and maybe get the boot the very next day if he thinks she isn't the one. So it's back to the bus for eight more hours. Doesn't sound very appealing to me.

Like I said, too many unknown variables. Christobeldawg might be a prince and the woman in question might be a ho. Or she's the Virgin Mary and he's Don Juan just down for a week of chasing tail (the paid and unpaid kind). Whatever the case, if someone can get one of these relationships off the ground and sustain it, my hat's off to them. I think it's fair to say the work involved, the commitment and the trust is higher than in "normal" relationships with the girl or boy next door.

Rubito says on May 7, 2008, 07:55:

Fine, BUT it has to be a little less than completely one-sided or the relationship has ZERO chance no matter what.

As far as I'm concerned BOTH parties have ample reason to be suspicious so that cancels that out.

---Violence is the price of freedom.---

JumboBond007 says on May 7, 2008, 08:19:

The cheapest way is NOT to send any money..... jajajajaja

lpdiver says on May 7, 2008, 08:20:

I would think that picking up a lady at her residence would be appropiate.

t

"cook some rice!"

huskie says on May 7, 2008, 11:38:

at Chisto, IMHO she is not your "girl next door" if she is asking for money without even knowing you, and even if you did, she is not your fiancee or wife. Avoid her if you can.
Cheers

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds-"

CatGirl says on May 7, 2008, 13:17:

Wow - this thing is still alive? I already forget who the OP handle was...

Forget the country she is from and her beauty etc... In general, do you typically send money to your Novia's? If yes...as Dr Phil would put it "How did that work out for you?"

My point is that many times members here help others make these types of decisions based on using your current baseline experience. Yes, yes...there are exceptions to every rule...but rare.

ooops! ....Did I say that?

gold digger says on May 7, 2008, 20:50:

Who even said that he had sex with her? Maybe she is saving it until after the wedding. lol

Makes you wonder how she ever survived before the money started coming her way. Poor thing.