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Simon says on Nov 2, 2007, 13:36:

That's pretty good. You should add 'Love in the Time of Cholera' or Gabo in there, because they're gonna be relating those to Colombia a lot in the near future, luckily.

HERE'S SIMON!!!!

la campiña says on Nov 2, 2007, 14:10:

PERO, gringos, or extrañeros, BIG diference, ha ha, go for it you yanks, listening, ha

elmodefoque says on Nov 2, 2007, 14:18:

guys, guys, guys PLEASE! we're talking about gringos, them modefoques don't know the difference between a japanese, korean, chineses, viet namese, philipino , you think they gonna know from juanes, medellin and the fokin chuchu train. To MOST of them we are all Mexicans.
The ony half ass reconizable person to them is Shaikira and i bet anything most think she's mexican.
Gringos rule the planet they aint got time to figure out whos who, if we piss them off they'll drop a bomb on our ass.

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

Medellin Traveler says on Nov 2, 2007, 14:23:

Sorry Elmo but gringo defintely know the difference between Mexicans and Colombias. The say Mexican work hard and Colombians have the best cocaine in the word.

Yes. I agree with eywed... from what I have seen, the gringos are coming to Colombia, soon

Medellin es una chimba! www.medellintraveler.com

Simon says on Nov 2, 2007, 14:24:

Also gotta add NASCAR's Juan Pablo Montoya too!

And Juan Pablo Angel is scoring a lot of goals in the MLS!

And 'Ugly Betty' is a big hit and that girl already has won an Emmy, Golden Globe and SAG award!!

HERE'S SIMON!!!!

elmodefoque says on Nov 2, 2007, 14:29:

listen guys, when i'm not on this site i'm either in poopreport.com or a fishing site outta long island NY. For four years i've been telling these yankee redneck modefoques that i'm not mexican, i'm fokin colombian! you think they know from fokin colombia, hell no!!
they continue to call me pancho the illegal mexican modefoque, and these are people from NY imagine in fokin Arkansa

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

la campiña says on Nov 2, 2007, 14:45:

in cowboy times the bandidos, you know john wayne etc and his mate billy the kid,I could go on tried to escape the states by easy passage to mexico, but the army across the border got wise to the capitalist rogues, SO the official green uniformed protectors of this land chassed them back across to the dark side with jubilant encouragement from the local folk who all as one yelled, green go ,green go, green go , with me yet? greengo , greengo, ok put on your outrageous moustache, sombrero, and try it in time with the mariachis,

poco says on Nov 2, 2007, 14:46:

The Perception of Colombia is changing.

10 years ago:
Lets go backpak’n in Colombia, I hear they have some hot chicks.

Today
Lets go checkout the hot chicks in Colombia, we can do some bacpak’n while we’re there,, wink, wink.

"Violence is the first refuge of the incompetent" - Isaac Asimov

Desideria (Moderator) says on Nov 2, 2007, 14:47:

I'm so fed up with this gringos and what they they think about Colombia that I think I'm going to throw up!

First, gringos are entitled to be just as ignorant as they want. It's their prerogative. If they think you're Pancho the Greaser laugh at their faces, "what'n ignorant prick!". I have this discussion with my Bush-supporting Retired Master Sergeant Air Force Ultra Conservative Utah-living brother all the time. These people learn, slowly admittedly, but they do. Ignorant people can be good people too,

In the other thread, somebody, probably Utopia Cowboy was saying that if you're Colombian, you are AUTOMATÌCALLY considered NON_WHITE. What a bunch of balooney! That is ignorance with a capital I. Now, not for one second, do I doubt that what he says is NOT the truth as he sees it. (Or as the people in his city/town/neighbourhood see it). It's collective ignorance, But as I said before. they're entitled to it.

The only thing that really matters is how Colombians see THEMSELVES. This far, there's too much negative, too negative stereotypes, too negative traits of personality and cultural preferences that are being passed on as "trhis is the way we are". No, quit making shabby excuses, there, you guys are so talented and smart, you can do better:)

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

eywed says on Nov 2, 2007, 15:04:

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Ay Hombe!!!!!

tomtom33 says on Nov 2, 2007, 15:06:

You mean I didn't move to Mexico?

Desideria (Moderator) says on Nov 2, 2007, 15:11:

I remember looking at a Christrmas tree at a public park in Florida with a Colombian friend. She was looking at it and chuckled...if this tree were in Cali, all the decorations would be gone in the morning! (She said it with pride). This is what I mean with the negative streotypes, the legacy of Pablo Escobar, the image of being the greatest hustlers in Latin America, nay, the World!

Colombians need to worry less what other people think about them, but rather concentrate on how they see themselves, how they want to be perceived, not only by the outside world but by themselves.

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

la campiña says on Nov 2, 2007, 15:15:

eywed, tiene razon, the reason I am here is because the people make me feel at home I've never encountered a more friendlier folk, if you talk to them the response is so polite, respect is the main word, and the conversacions are so interesting and stimulating, viva colombia I say. :-)

eywed says on Nov 2, 2007, 15:17:

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Ay Hombe!!!!!

Desideria (Moderator) says on Nov 2, 2007, 15:21:

I've surrounded myself with real Colombians, who don't pretend in my presence. People who talk to me as if I were one of them.

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

la campiña says on Nov 2, 2007, 15:26:

Desideria, forgive me , dont realy get your last point, sorry,

eywed says on Nov 2, 2007, 15:30:

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Ay Hombe!!!!!

Desideria (Moderator) says on Nov 2, 2007, 15:35:

Campiña, Colombians are wonderful people and they treat you, as a foreigner as if you were Prince Charles or the pretender to the throne. It's not necessarily the way they think, however. ("Ahhh..so, you speak Spanish, don't you? This means I can't make fun of you any longer, huh?")

Eywed, what is the right direction?

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

eywed says on Nov 2, 2007, 15:38:

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Ay Hombe!!!!!

la campiña says on Nov 2, 2007, 15:41:

the right direction to where, our mind set our culture, our influence, colombia realy is many places in one area, this is so complicated sometimes I feel a little arrogant even talking about a huge problem I realy dont know enough about, the valleys, the mountains, the coast, the cities, I'm only english from a little island, colombia is worlds apart.

Desideria (Moderator) says on Nov 2, 2007, 15:54:

Okay. from what I hear things are a bit complicated. (I'm a "Caleña") Things seem to be better in Bogotá, even Medellin, perhaps Barranquilla? From my point of reference, things have been steadily worse since mid-eighties.

Eywed, yes, it sounds good, but I'm afraid the change will have to come from deeper down; from people who reject, unanimously, the culture of violence, the culture of deceit, the culture of corruption, the culture of wheeler-dealing, the culture of the fast buck, the culture of the utmost, savage materialism.

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

la campiña says on Nov 2, 2007, 16:19:

for a caleña how can you say bogota is better, medellin no se, barranquilla tambien no se, para mi el valle del cauca is inspiring, ok it does not have the history and the tourist atractions that the aformentioned have, maybe it all comes down to what you like what your used to and the contrast. I love the mountains here , the three crosses great walk and everbody says hello , the hills behind chipichape, and the pueblitos on route to Dapa or la Cumbre, or Pavas or 18 kilometres. Not to mention el centro, what a buzz, real colombians, not chicas plasticas, sorry I have so much enthusiasm for your country , Lighten UP, show a little more of yourself, be huggies ha

Desideria (Moderator) says on Nov 2, 2007, 16:44:

Campiña, I've walked up the hill of the Three Crosses, I've looked for the crystals on the cerro del Cristo Rey, I've bathed in the waters of RioPance, had coffee at the Turcos, empanadas at the Obelisco...
I love Cali and el Valle, as much as anybody, but I'm not blind, deaf or mute.

I'm not interested in Cali for tourists, just for the Caleños themselves.

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

la campiña says on Nov 2, 2007, 17:15:

gracias, muy amable por tus palabras, entiendo totalmente, pero con respecto, can you not see that I am on your side and I live here because I respect colombia and of course I am aware of the problems and the propaganda shown worlwide on TV. You and me and many people that choose to live here know colombia has bad press, so let it stay that way, the less travelers here for me the better , we know the truth, for me its paradise even here in cali ha, the third most diverse country in the world, I take time to study all departments here and have traveled to many many places. Maybe you could find time to except genuine people here in your beautiful pais that realy care as I do, I hope so. My wifes a rola and she preferes el valle, I rest my case ha.

john_stark says on Nov 2, 2007, 22:17:

"In the other thread, somebody, probably Utopia Cowboy was saying that if you're Colombian, you are AUTOMATÌCALLY considered NON_WHITE. What a bunch of balooney! That is ignorance with a capital I. Now, not for one second, do I doubt that what he says is NOT the truth as he sees it. (Or as the people in his city/town/neighbourhood see it). It's collective ignorance, But as I said before. they're entitled to it."

I didn't say that I agreed with this point of view. I obviously don't. However that is the way they think. And yes, everyone south of the Rio Grande is a Mexican.

Simon says on Nov 2, 2007, 22:22:

"And yes, everyone south of the Rio Grande is a Mexican."


The white Argentines and Uruguayans are Mexicans too?

HERE'S SIMON!!!!

Carlotica says on Nov 2, 2007, 22:28:

"To MOST of them we are all Mexicans." Elmo you are SO right - this happens all the time in So. CA. too! => I just lmao!!!

Salsera!!!... de por vida =>

john_stark says on Nov 2, 2007, 22:36:

"The white Argentines and Uruguayans are Mexicans too?"

To your bozo gringo, yes. Any Latino is a Mexican. And they speak Mexican.

la campiña says on Nov 2, 2007, 22:39:

wow intenso

scotty says on Nov 3, 2007, 01:54:

Carlotica, not to most of them...to some of them, the ignorant ones that dont know any better.

There is plenty of ignorance to go around. some gringos like i said that have never been out of their home town and have no worldly education may think and may say "well anyone south of the rio grande is a mexican"

however, at the same time you can find sterotypes in south america, some south americans think all gringos are blond with blue eyes, some think all gringos are rich, boy are they surprised when they get here and find out there are all races of people here and many people who have little money to their name.some SA think the US is the land of milk and honey and when they get here they find out they have to work their ass off to make ends meet and things in the US arent cheap, i see the shock on their faces sometimes.
so you see there is plenty of ignorance to go around

Get Rhythm, when you got the blues. Johnny Cash

Desideria (Moderator) says on Nov 3, 2007, 05:52:

I guess the point I was trying to make last night was that the way I see it, many Colombians need to change the way they think of themselves. I'm talking about this pride they take for being "vivos", not intelligent, but "avispados", sagaces, ....the whole rotten culture of the Papaya. They have to quit thinking that corruption and dishonesty is ok, as long it's YOURSELF who's "riding the cow".

The whole stinking legacy of narcoculture and Pablo Escobar has to be erased from the minds and souls of the Colombian people before any healing can start, before we can even hope that Colombia will permantly aquire a status as friendly, peaceful, fair society in the eyes of the outside world.

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

Medellin Traveler says on Nov 3, 2007, 06:13:

We in Chicago will never forget about Al Capone, but yes the city has moved forward, cleaner, safer with the best restaurants in the WORLD!!

You must not forget history, or it is bound to repeat itself.

EVERYONE outside of the US thinks gringos are ALL RICH!!

What a shocking dissappointment it is when they discover the truth! ;)

Medellin es una chimba! www.medellintraveler.com

bufalo says on Nov 3, 2007, 07:13:

I gotta go with JS on this one (is her UTC?) Whenever I got back from Colombia I always had people asking me, "How was it in Puerto Rico?" or, "How is Mexico?" I was even taken aback at how different Uruguay was compared to Colombia.

Colombia: "siéntate"
Uruguay: "sentáte"

(accent marks aren't for spelling, rather to show the stressssssssss)

"If you don't like it - lump it, take it down the road and dump it." - Archie Bunker played by Carroll O'Connor

Tinto (Moderator) says on Nov 3, 2007, 07:21:

It's settled then. There are only five types of people in the world:

Gringos
Mexicans
Chinos
Blacks
Middle Easterners

Excellent! Much simpler and a lot less to remember.

poco says on Nov 3, 2007, 08:01:

Quote: the legacy of Pablo Escobar

The killing of Pablo is on the HISTORY CHANNEL tomorrow.

Quote: It's settled then. There are only five types of people in the world:

You forgot Asians !!! That group includes all the,,, you know,, Asians,, like the Chinese, Japanese, etc. I'm at a loss on how to impart an easily comprehended and unique categorization,, but,, trust me,, they're out there. I’ve seen quite a few in Colombia.



Quote: You must not forget history, or it is bound to repeat itself.
Killing Pablo documentary on TV tomorrow. Make notes,, visuals might help your perception.

"Violence is the first refuge of the incompetent" - Isaac Asimov

john_stark says on Nov 3, 2007, 08:07:

Hell sometimes when a person is speaking Spanish, a gringo will snarl, "Speak white!" with the implication that white = speaking English.

Of course there are idiotic misconceptions everywhere. Colombians think the US is a violent place with shootouts in the streets like in the movies. It took my wife a while to accept the fact that she could leave the door unlocked all the time.

Desideria (Moderator) says on Nov 3, 2007, 08:11:

Yeah, writing history and geography books for the coming generations has suddenly become a child's errand.

Medellin Traveller; yes, but the size of the damage to the very core of the society is not comparable. The gangster era did not permeate the thinking of a whole generation of estadounidenses the way the narcoculture did to Colombians.

Cheers!

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

Grateful Dead says on Nov 3, 2007, 10:49:

So what ! Being considered a Mexican would be a compliment in my book , what a great culture.

Grateful Dead says on Nov 3, 2007, 10:51:

It seems like a lot of people worry too much about what other people think.Who cares !

Mr. Hollywood says on Nov 3, 2007, 11:17:

My favorite white trash comment ever, "If English was good enough for our lord Jesus Christ it should be good enough for all these foreigners coming here to America."

Medellin Traveler says on Nov 3, 2007, 11:34:

Who is this Jesus you speak about?

Poco, and others... there is no need to wait for the documentary. You can watch it in on YouTube. Why wait?

Pablo Escobar The True Story Of Killing PART 1 OF 10

Medellin es una chimba! www.medellintraveler.com

elmodefoque says on Nov 3, 2007, 11:57:

Hollywood, , I could not resist, I stole that awesome fascinating white trash quote and I’m now using it as my personal quote on my fishing site.
Due to lousy weather in the north east coast, us (fishermen) are stuck indoors bullshitting on the computer . Thanks!

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

Mr. Hollywood says on Nov 3, 2007, 14:17:

A la orden, elmo!

Always glad to help.

ColombianoGringo says on Nov 3, 2007, 18:03:

Poco, There are a million awful animated GIFs on the web.

However, that one you just put up justifies the existence of the format all by itself. Que bombon.

ColombianoGringo says on Nov 3, 2007, 18:10:

After having been asked a million times by gringos if I speak "Mexican", I too have come to the sad conclusion that a huge number of people in the US are completely ignorant of the distinctions amongst general ethnic groups.

To many gringos, everyone from south Asia is an Arab regardless of whether they are Lebanese, Indian, Pakistani, Persian, etc. or an actual Arab. They will lump Japanese, Chinese, Vietnamese, Koreans,etc as "Oriental". And when it comes to Latin-Americans, we are all Mexicans.

Obviously, in places like Miami or New York, most people probably understand the distinction between nationalities, but in "Middle America", you would be appalled at the extreme level of ignorance.

When it comes to the imbeciles that don't like people speaking languages other than English, I go out of my way to fuck with them. I will speak Spanish more loudly interspersed with a few "Gringo HPs" or "Americanos noseques" just to drive them crazy even if we aren't talking about them. This tends to work very well with the rednecks here in Texas.

Simon says on Nov 3, 2007, 19:02:

"When it comes to the imbeciles that don't like people speaking languages other than English, I go out of my way to fuck with them. I will speak Spanish more loudly interspersed with a few "Gringo HPs" or "Americanos noseques" just to drive them crazy even if we aren't talking about them. This tends to work very well with the rednecks here in Texas."



Ha ha ha!! I used to do that too when I was there!!

HERE'S SIMON!!!!

christobeldawg says on Nov 3, 2007, 20:05:

I find ignorance of other cultures everywhere. It is true that North Americans generally know nothing about South Americans, and the differences among different South American countries. However, I have found that Colombians generally have very warped opinions as to what North America is all about. A small percentage of people are aware, the great majority are clueless.

admittedly, arriving can feel great too

Mr. Hollywood says on Nov 3, 2007, 20:11:

Try getting your average Colombian to explain the difference between China, Korea and Japan.

christobeldawg says on Nov 3, 2007, 20:13:

That's all I'm sayin. Most people are uneducated as to other cultures, and they don't care. It's always been that way. I am thinking, with the internet, overall, people are generally slightly more aware than in the distant past.

admittedly, arriving can feel great too

Monpirri says on Nov 3, 2007, 20:33:

Medellin Traveler,
You have been doing a heavy duty misleading advertising lately concerning Colombia or Medellin!

This comment sounds like another a gross stereotype developed by a biased culture.
"Sorry Elmo but gringo definitely know the difference between Mexicans and Colombias. The say Mexican work hard and Colombians have the best cocaine in the word."

MAC

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

Medellin Traveler says on Nov 3, 2007, 20:58:

M -

Sorry, I couldn't help it. If you were able to listen to the inflection in my voice, or at least in my head,when I typed that, you would know I was just talking crap replying to Elmo's comments. That is what sucks about posting on the internet. And I don't care much for ending my post with LOL.

I LOVE MEDELLIN!!

Medellin es una chimba! www.medellintraveler.com

christobeldawg says on Nov 3, 2007, 21:09:

As far as average Joe Colombians, they generally only see Americans with apparent money, because they figure it must cost alot more than they have or they wouldn't be there.
As far as Joe 6 pack gringo, they only see Mexican laborers here, and assume that is what South America is all about.

admittedly, arriving can feel great too

static says on Nov 4, 2007, 08:22:

It's the same all over the world: most people are morons.

Chelesupercono says on Nov 4, 2007, 08:29:

Just recently when I was in the U.S.A. I mentioned to some people that I live in Nicaragua......and two people said, "gee what's it like to live in Africa? " So I told them that I have never heard of O.J.Simpson or Britney Spears.....they looked at me like I was from Mars.......enough said

never go to bed with someone crazier then you are, you will do it and you will regret it.......

ColombianoGringo says on Nov 4, 2007, 09:35:

In my freshman year in college, I was telling some new acquaintances about my summer in Europe after high school graduation. One of the guys, piped up with "Europe? Why would you want to a third world country like that?". Sadly, that is a lot more typical here than you would think.

bufalo says on Nov 4, 2007, 10:48:

Actually, a third world country is one that was neutral during World War 2, doesn't have to do with poverty.

When a Mexican first gets to the states, he has no problem sweeping the supermarket's floor,
when a Colombian gets there he wants to be the manager, drive a BMW, etc.

"If you don't like it - lump it, take it down the road and dump it." - Archie Bunker played by Carroll O'Connor

bufalo says on Nov 4, 2007, 10:50:

That's hysterical. I remember like 3 years ago, when we hit the states for a visit, we were in front of the MTV studios in times square and of course there was a huge crowd of youngins. I asked wha the big deal was, some kid told me it was for "Justin Timberlake"

I had no idea who she was talking about and asked who it was. Ihtought she was going to fall over (I also got a bunch of dirty looks and eye rolls from the rest of em.

"If you don't like it - lump it, take it down the road and dump it." - Archie Bunker played by Carroll O'Connor

Lowell says on Nov 4, 2007, 11:14:

On the flip side I often like to play the part of a non Spanish speaking Gringo. I let the fools yak and yak about the Gringo. As I'm about to leave I smile and say "Muchas gracias, yo ecshuca y sabe todo sus palabras". What's even better is when my wife arrives and we begin to communicate solely in Spanish. Sadly,I don't often get to pull that stunt in my town as I'm too well known.

Alfred E. Newman. "What. Me Worry?"

bufalo says on Nov 4, 2007, 17:24:

does it bug you when people say "hey man I speaky english" or something like that thinking you'll just stop in the middle of the street and be their best friend...

I usually say some gibberish ending with "brasil" like:

"Obrigado do brasil" They usually get confused then whisper amongst themselves " I think he's from brasil or something"

Or I just say in perfect spanish that I don't understand them.

"If you don't like it - lump it, take it down the road and dump it." - Archie Bunker played by Carroll O'Connor

christobeldawg says on Nov 4, 2007, 18:06:

and they tell us that if we just try to speak the native language, the natives will be all too happy to help, and will be very patient since we are trying. oh well..

admittedly, arriving can feel great too

robi666 says on Nov 4, 2007, 21:05:

The worst is if you're Italian and they try to speak English to you to make you feel comfortable... and then I tell them in Spanish that I am Italian but they go on trying to speak English "Ooooh, you Italian... where Italian from?"
And on and on and on, with me speaking Spanish and them trying to talk in English...

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

christobeldawg says on Nov 4, 2007, 21:13:

the more I read around here, the more I think of nationalism, or patriotism to one country, as almost like racism, just a detriment to everyone. Change happens constantly within every person, country, culture. Go with it. It's the way of the world. Who cared about the US or Colombia 400 years ago? We are all universal, or we stagnate. I get a bit tired of all this anti gringo stuff, or anti Colombian, whatever gringos call them, stuff.

admittedly, arriving can feel great too

elmodefoque says on Nov 5, 2007, 05:25:

This is not to put down gringos, it's just the facts. Gringos are known to know very little about other cultures or geography, in other words they could not give a rats ass about other peoples.
Of course this is more prevalent in places with little third world migration (most of the country) but, in mayor cities as NYC is the exact opposite. Here, most know a lot about other ethnic groups etc. and in some public schools you actually have to teach kids what a white person looks like.
Just yesterday, I was in Sandy Hook, NJ to do a little surf fishing. I was there with my Puerto Rican buddy. As we got closer to that town, I noticed something quite strange, chit! they’ve got real white modefoques out here, where are the Gumbas (Italian Americans)? I don’t see any.
In my ignorant mind when I hear New Jersey first thing that pops into my head is Gumbas never imagined Jersey to have real hard core Anglos.
Anyway I see all these red hair and blonde kids around town and if not for your typical ugly north east coast beach with no palm trees I swear I was in fokin Malibu.
On our way back home we stopped at Wendy’s for a quick meal. I had a plain (no lettuces or tomatoes, none of that chit) double burger with chesse, a baked potatoe and sody pop.
As we waited for our meal, only spics in the enter town, in walks this incredible beautiful maybe 19 years old rubia with that sunny California blonde look.
Man, my buddy and I looked at each with that, damnnn, holly chit, have you ever seen anything more beautiful in your miserable fokin life? We don’t see people like that in NYC she looks like a living fokin doll, bright blue eyes, shiny golden blonde hair and a tanned killer body.
We were actually left in awe, she order her chit and sat alone and left. She also seem surprised to see spics in person, maybe she only seen us on TV. .
A few minutes later we leave and see her again in the parking lot talking on her cell phone. I was in my friend’s 300 dollar car; she takes off driving a brand new BMW convertible, maybe 50 thousand

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

kalder says on Nov 5, 2007, 05:46:

"Gringos are known to know very little about other cultures or geography, in other words they could not give a rats ass about other peoples."

Are Latinos any different?

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

kalder says on Nov 5, 2007, 05:46:

"Gringos are known to know very little about other cultures or geography, in other words they could not give a rats ass about other peoples."

Are Latinos any different?

"kalder- have you ever had a woman?"--Sam Salmon

elmodefoque says on Nov 5, 2007, 06:03:

when i was in my Wayuu village with no electricty and only dirt roads at the tender age of 5, I knew about Americans, i knew about the NY Yankees baseball team, but we all thought they were 6'10" blonde hair and blue eye. I also knew about France but that's cus my godparents were french.
I also knew about Cuba

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

elmodefoque says on Nov 5, 2007, 06:06:

later, when we moved the great metroplotis knows as la puerta de oro, barranquilla, I came across arabs and chinese culture.
I had my first fried rice and falafle in el centro de curramba

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

robi666 says on Nov 5, 2007, 06:11:

Elmo, are you going to tell us when the gipsies came to your village to show you the ice? :-)

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

elmodefoque says on Nov 5, 2007, 06:24:

As a small child in curramba i was always told that if i don't stop messing with donkies, the gypsies were gonna come and take me away and raise me to be a thief.

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

elmodefoque says on Nov 5, 2007, 06:37:

three things barranquillero parents often use to scare misbehaving kids, "la llorona" "el duente" and "gypsies.

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

timeforachangeofid says on Nov 5, 2007, 06:38:

It doesn't matter much to me if a Colombian or a Sri Lankan doesn't know about other countries, but it's a bit different when Americans don't know anything - they are too fond of dropping bombs. But there is hope:

Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen. Albert Einstein

robi666 says on Nov 5, 2007, 06:39:

At least they do not scream "Stop doing that or I'll call the paracos" :-)

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

morphus says on Nov 5, 2007, 06:45:

I knew a guy that thought there was an ocean between New York and California. I said "no, you can drive there" :)

robi666 says on Nov 5, 2007, 06:46:

Maybe he just wanted to get there the other way...

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

elmodefoque says on Nov 5, 2007, 06:48:

wow, that kid is smart, i don't know where the fok paraguay, greendland or new zealand are on a fokin map.
Well i take everything back, but i bet that kid is gotta be from NYC

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

elmodefoque says on Nov 5, 2007, 07:09:

guys, guys, guys, do you REALLY think an ALL AMEICAN, RED WHITE A BLUE, budwiser drinking, right wing, kick ass southern modefoque like a Jeff Gordon is capable of pointing out where his fellow nascar driver, Pablo Montoya is from?
I bet anything if you ask him to point out Pablo’s birth place in a map, he’ll point to Mexico.
“The little guy comes from a pueblo in Columbia, Mexico, that thar is near Cancun‿ Jeff
Listen, Gringos don’t need to know from other countries, on the other hand we have to know about them.
Every person in the planets knows where Coca Cola, MacDonald, Ford, Brad Pitt, and on and on and on, are from, USA!
Ask any modefoque in the world where Postobon is from and then where Pepsi

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

Lowell says on Nov 5, 2007, 07:32:

Know about other countries? My wife and son didn't even know who Colombia got its independence from.

Alfred E. Newman. "What. Me Worry?"

elmodefoque says on Nov 5, 2007, 07:35:

from venezuela, they kicked simon fokin bolivar out

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

slguy says on Nov 5, 2007, 08:18:

This thread amuses me. How many times have people said here that to colombians ALL european types are gringos? Doesn't matter- US, Canada, Brits, French- they're ALL gringos.

Now you're talking about how gringos consider all latinos Mexicans? And criticizing americans for not differentiating?

Helloooooo!

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

eywed says on Nov 5, 2007, 08:28:

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Ay Hombe!!!!!

elmodefoque says on Nov 5, 2007, 08:40:

excellent poing slyguy
probably some colombians out there who think england is in USA just above MAINE. JIJJIJ
and there might be people that think that just because we grew up in the 60's USA we all smoked dope, which is totally falls

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

manINred says on Nov 5, 2007, 09:18:

Many people (gringos and foreigners) neither know nor care about the difference between Mexico and Colombia.

My roommate in Montreal, when I told him I was going to Colombia, asked me which part of Mexico that was in.

Lowell says on Nov 5, 2007, 09:31:

Yea, But I didn't inhale.

Alfred E. Newman. "What. Me Worry?"

Lowell says on Nov 5, 2007, 09:32:

and I was a virgin because I used a condom

Alfred E. Newman. "What. Me Worry?"

morphus says on Nov 5, 2007, 09:51:

Sex with condom is'nt real sex so technically you are still a virgin. Plus if you use a condom its not considered cheating if you have a girlfriend or wife.

manINred says on Nov 5, 2007, 10:13:

are you being facetious?

scumbuster says on Nov 5, 2007, 13:03:

I can see that every country has people that stereotype and are predigest. Most Americans that I know, know Colombia is not Mexico. They might not know where it is other than South America. They think drugs are prevalent and if you visit Colombia you stand a chance of being kidnapped. This impression comes from the news in the United States. Good news isn’t covered. We hear about FARC attacks, intercepted drug shipments and kidnappings. I think any Americans that have visited Colombia or have taken the trouble to join this site are looking to learn more and be informed about Colombia. For me, I love to travel and I met a wonderful woman in Colombia. She took an incredible leap of faith to leave her job, home and country, to be with me here in the USA. I plan to do the same for her and hopefully in not to many years we will be living in Colombia. With some of the attitudes I see here though, I hope some of you are not my neighbors.
P.S. I will match my geographic knowledge with most anyone from any country. I think people that like to travel, have a good knowledge of geography.

scumbuster says on Nov 5, 2007, 13:03:

I think Lilly can beat me at Geography though. That's impressive.

Chelesupercono says on Nov 5, 2007, 14:23:

ok so where is Idaho ?

never go to bed with someone crazier then you are, you will do it and you will regret it.......

ColombianoGringo says on Nov 5, 2007, 15:13:

Is that in Canadania?

minina says on Nov 5, 2007, 20:09:

No comments:

Mr. Hollywood says on Nov 6, 2007, 08:05:

Come on, everyone in the US knows where Colombia is: It's where they make cocaine.

lpdiver says on Nov 7, 2007, 04:36:

It amazes me that most Colombian either don't know or don't care that we ( the USA ) paid off one of their own ( 12 million ) to start a revolution and take Panama away from Colombia. All in the interest of national security mind you.

Try having that discussion in Colombia and watch the blank stares.

t

"cook some rice!"

morphus says on Nov 7, 2007, 06:24:

You have to admit, the U.S. has shown a lot of restraint over the years. Other countries laugh at us. With all these bombs, we can exterminate large populations of people throughout the world and take over their countries. Look at Iraq. If the U.S. is going to kill a couple hundred thousand civilians, they may as well kill the whole population through bombing. Americans could then supplant the Iraqis in Iraq and keep doing the same thing in other countries. Why waste tax dollars on bombs if we are not going to use them?

Chelesupercono says on Nov 7, 2007, 08:31:

Hey Morp........could you actually be Hitler reincarnated? Scary.......

never go to bed with someone crazier then you are, you will do it and you will regret it.......

morphus says on Nov 7, 2007, 08:49:

If I was in charge I would utilize the U.S. military to the fullest. Russia would be the first to go. I'll let them blow themselves up with their old rusty nukes. The ones that do make it off the grown will be deflected by a missle defense system. After the Russians are eliminated it will be easy pickins. Iran and North Korea would be disintegrated within a week. Europe would be reduced to a bunch whores and beggars. The Chinese and Japanese would be enslaved. Religion will be banned worldwide. All places of worship will be blown up.

roquero says on Nov 7, 2007, 09:29:

We're all Mexicans to the majority of the USA americanos
I remember we moved to a small city in Ohio in the middle of my sophomore year in High School, and the gym teacher at the new school read out the role call of students in the class.
When he got to my name for the first time, he said in his best Appalachian drawl, "you speak English son?"
This guy used to be an ex-marine drill Sergeant, he had the typical buzz cut hair style [think Sergeant Carter of "Gomer Pyle"], and I answered in my best Gomer Pyle voice- "Hell NO!"
The class erupted with laughter, and the pissed off teacher flunked me, even though I transferred in with an A from my previous school for that subject.
I would get ignorant comments like "I bet your mom makes great tacos and burritos" [My mom never saw a taco or burrito in Havana, and even in the States she wouldn't touch any of that stuff]
Not only do they think most of us are Mexicans, but to some, we are ignorant savages as well.
When my family left Miami and went up north for the first time, our next door neighbor heard that some Cubans had moved in next door
She came in to introduce herself, and proceeded to demonstrate to us the wonder of modern appliances like television and air conditioning.
I was only five years old, but I thought to myself- "Esta mujer esta tostada del queso" [Cuban slang for - this lady is off her rocker!]

bufalo says on Nov 7, 2007, 11:16:

I had to go over the cold war for my students, we had a ball going over all the shit the US has done in the world (and I' sure we only covered the beginning)

"If you don't like it - lump it, take it down the road and dump it." - Archie Bunker played by Carroll O'Connor

Chelesupercono says on Nov 7, 2007, 15:14:

Hey Morphu........sign me up dude........can I be in charge of all the WOMEN'S CAMPS??????

never go to bed with someone crazier then you are, you will do it and you will regret it.......

Robert Jorge says on Nov 8, 2007, 21:57:

roquero, thanks for the story. When my now wife got here (Florida) from Colombia, one of the well intentioned ladies at my job decided to cook us a lunch. She brought in tacos with all the fixin's and nachos with salsa picante. It would have really hurt her feelings if I said, "Tacos are Mexican, a taco in Villavicencio is a pool cue." Anyway, she meant no harm and wanted to do something special - but just was / is totally ignorant of the fact that other Latin countries are a little, or VERY, different than Mexico.

roquero, that is hilarious about the neighbor coming over to show you how to use "modern" conveniences. jajaja

I did have to show Mrs. RJ a few things that she just had never been exposed to. The first thing that comes to mind is when we stayed at the Tequendama in Bogota. She went to take a shower, came out with a towel wrapped around her and asked how to turn the water on. She had never used hot water, or knew what the two knobs were for. She had also never pulled the valve thing up to change from the bath water spigot to the shower.

--"I believe in making the world safe for our children. But not for our children's children, because I don't think that children should be having sex." - Jack Handy

john_stark says on Nov 9, 2007, 05:53:

My wife always uses the word "taco" to refer to a traffic jam.

Lowell says on Nov 9, 2007, 06:27:

Believe it or not, my wife had no experience with a fork. After we were together for a while, she told me that when I took her out on our first date to a nice place to eat, she waited to eat, so she could watch how I used my fork. Her mother is intentionally ignorant, so that didn't shock me.

Alfred E. Newman. "What. Me Worry?"

morphus says on Nov 9, 2007, 07:42:

When I used to go to Cuba back in the 90s I used to invite Cubanas back to the hotel. Some did'nt know how to use a can of hairspray or a bottle of liquid soap. I would have to demonstrate a lot of things.

Chelesupercono says on Nov 9, 2007, 09:01:

Now that sounds like tough duty MORPHUS...........how did it go with the other kind of GEL.......LOL

never go to bed with someone crazier then you are, you will do it and you will regret it.......

morphus says on Nov 9, 2007, 09:06:

My travels to Cuba were for cultural exchange purposes.

eywed says on Nov 9, 2007, 09:33:

?

Ay Hombe!!!!!

morphus says on Nov 9, 2007, 10:00:

Rhetorical question!