Avoiding prepagos and meeting only "real" colombianas

Miguel_Clavo says on Apr 6, 2007, 23:47:

The Prepagos are Unionized down there..ask for their "Tarjeta de PrePago", which has their important medical history on it as well......just to prevent one to walk around saying "wheres the beef??!!!"

Just my opinion...and brought to you by the lowest of the low, and foul

Miguel_Clavo =)..aka, Clavo...Colombia es pasión!

"F.A.R.C..S.U.C.K.S"

RVW orderded me to remove my tagline congratulating the PBH Mods New Golden Boys. Lame.

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Beef27 says on Apr 7, 2007, 02:07:

well i guess i'm foked because my spanish is not so good and I am going to Colombia to learn about the culture. however, it will improve....i'm sure. anyway, this seems it could turn comical at any point, which is fine but I would like some real world answers if anybody has some input. peace.....beef, it's what's for dinner!

Paul WallSemper Fi

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tejasmarcos says on Apr 7, 2007, 07:26:

i hear so much about prepagos and i'm sure i see them here in Medellin, but after being here a year and being in most of the described "prepago" hangouts, i have yet to encounter one. i think juancho00 summed it up pretty good in his description above.

trying to walk a straight line on sour mash and cheap wine...

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Boatygringo says on Apr 7, 2007, 09:10:

Prepagos Beff27, The way too meet regular Colombian girls is not to not hang out in clubs and bars, but hang out in the malls and be friendly with all of the shop girls, say Hi and smile at lot. Most of the chicas that work in the shops are regular neighborhood girls and are usualy very friendly, it make take a little work but you will meet some of the sweetest Chicas that way. Boatygringo

Boatygringo

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packagegirl says on Apr 7, 2007, 09:54:

Dont'go to Mango's, Palmahia, Universal and places like that in Medellin. Full of prepagos...
I recommend the Pub or the Blue, Liverpool, Dali, Vertigo, Pub Escocia, La Octava, to meet real girls, with real bodies and real minds

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CaptainHowdy says on Apr 7, 2007, 10:39:

Hey, Morphus I think I chat with the same girl you're talking about. Send me her email address and I'll see if it matches mine! LOL

Teaching preteens the things they need to know!

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manINred says on Apr 7, 2007, 12:30:

Hmm beef27, you are definitely not screwed. Just don't expect to meet them necessarily at clubs/discotecas. Meet them at markets, on the street, having a beer on a patio, wherever!

I went to Colombia and there were many non-prepagos willing to help me get to know the culture. I ended up living with someone in Medellin, someone real and amazing enough to invite me into her home for a month. Now I'm almost fluent in Spanish and know a good deal about the culture. Don't worry, you'll find nice, carefree girls who will be happy to let you know about their country. Just be a decent human being, it'll happen.

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utopiacowboy says on Apr 7, 2007, 13:11:

The guy is screwed, let's face it. Very few normal women go to bars and clubs unaccompanied - most of the women who go unaccompanied are looking for something. The only way you are going to meet normal women is to hit on them cold while they're walking on the street or in the supermarket etc. Otherwise you've got to network and meet them through friends and relatives.

Having said all that, why bother? You'll pay less in the long run if you just go to the casas and buy it in a straight up business transaction. I'm on a long term lease myself but it's more expensive that way.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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packagegirl says on Apr 7, 2007, 14:08:

Escuchalo Beef él esta hablando por su propia experiencia.... jajajajaja

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utopiacowboy says on Apr 7, 2007, 14:17:

Come on packagegirl, let's not air our personal problems here on PBSH. Yes, I didn't take the garbage out last night but I'm surprised you're still pissed about it. If I take it out now will you give me your chiquito later? What if I get you really drunk?

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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Beef27 says on Apr 7, 2007, 15:56:

thanks for the honest comments what i think my best bet would be to go sightseeing in the day and hopefully bump into a nice paisa and invite her out for a night on the town. after spending 6 months straight in Assghanistan, I really do want to go out and party a bit in the clubs...but I don't want to be wasting time on some girl who just had some gross dude in her earlier that day. i could be way off, and if a prepago is not the same as a working girl but just a girl trying to make it, then that's a little different. i'm just really turned off by the working girl and actually feel sad for them. but to each his own if they want that. i'm not one to judge...just not for me. thanks all!

Paul WallSemper Fi

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Cerealkiller says on Apr 7, 2007, 17:44:

Beef do you know anyone at all in medellin? Being there in your own makes it very difficult, I dont agree with meeting people at malls and stuff...theyll probably think youre a creep or something. If a guy chats me up at a mall Id be very wary, as id probably be sober and not looking...The best way to meet girls is and has always been in clubs and bars...lots of girls party without guys and most of them are not prepagos. Morphus is right when he says a non prepago might actually want some sort of commitment, but then again if you have something against that then youre probably better off with a prepago. Id say take your time and if you have the chance of meeting other americans in medellin or people who speak english go for it, dont make a huge fuss out of being a gringo and try hard to blend in, thats the only way to do it.
But then again I have never been on the pull in Medellin or anywhere else in the world for that matter.

Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives -John Stuart Mill

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jay1234 says on Apr 7, 2007, 17:49:

The amount of time you have there could also be an issue. If you do meet a nice relationship minded girl and you are only there for a few weeks, well, unless you plan on marrying/proposing it seems like it will be tough to get anywhere. That won't be a problem with a prepago. Not trying to steer you in that direction, just wanted to point out a possible complication to meeting a "nice" girl. Are you going for a longer period of time?

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Beef27 says on Apr 7, 2007, 18:02:

reality is setting in and really, whatever happens, happens i guess. I'm gonna hit the bars/clubs and have a few drinks because I don't get that out here in muslim country. plus i like to dance, but not so good with salsa/merengue but pretty good with hip hop and some raggeaton. not looking for a relationship as it will be a vacation, but also not against it. i really am checking it out because i might buy a vacation apartment there and i like the climate and heard many good things besides the women. so if no girl this time, i'm sure at some point i'll meet a nice hot colombiana. i'll let ya'll know how it pans out if anyone cares about a gringo's solo trip to medellin. thanks again....beef

Paul WallSemper Fi

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jay1234 says on Apr 7, 2007, 18:17:

Hopefully it doesn't stay solo for long. When I went, I stayed in Poblado at the Intercontinental. I would recommend staying near there if it's your first time (when I go somewhere for the first time, I like to play it safe and check out the area first, it is more expensive, but safer IMHO than just "adventuring" without a clue. After I get to know the area, I feel better about going to the next cheaper hotels, I stayed at a great hotel in Barranquilla for about $30 a night, it had all the modern amenities and was a great bargain. I am sure there are similar deals in Medellin). I was with a Colombiana girlfriend for 12 out of the 14 nights I was there, so I had only two nights "solo." The first night, I went to a bar that had a female singer with band, I was sitting alone for all of 5 minutes when a gorgeous girl approached me. We went to Mango's after and unless you are doing something very wrong, my impression was that you will not be alone for long there. Hope you have a blast.

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coffee beaner says on Apr 7, 2007, 18:39:

Do the prepago thing bro, its easier for a gringo and they will love you for being one. I have a friend in Medellin that is prepago and she loves the pasty looking gringos, you won't have problems with prepagos... maybe you can become really connected with her and she will invite you to a prepago party, WOW what a dream!

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coffee beaner says on Apr 7, 2007, 19:25:

exactly... the funny thing is some pasty white gringo will go to Medellin and actually think a colombiana like this will marry him for his feelings and sensitivity

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Miguel_Clavo says on Apr 7, 2007, 19:37:

Dont say that too loudly, CB, Morphie may hear it!!! Just my opinion...and brought to you by the lowest of the low, and foul

Miguel_Clavo =)..aka, Clavo...Colombia es pasión!

"F.A.R.C..S.U.C.K.S"

RVW orderded me to remove my tagline congratulating the PBH Mods New Golden Boys. Lame.

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mecca says on Apr 7, 2007, 19:37:

That's right beaner Leave your emotions at the airport and you'll be far better off if dating in CO. If you find ones that really are into you, they'll put in the work.

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Miguel_Clavo says on Apr 7, 2007, 19:37:

BIEC=Morphie..... Just my opinion...and brought to you by the lowest of the low, and foul

Miguel_Clavo =)..aka, Clavo...Colombia es pasión!

"F.A.R.C..S.U.C.K.S"

RVW orderded me to remove my tagline congratulating the PBH Mods New Golden Boys. Lame.

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jay1234 says on Apr 7, 2007, 19:44:

MC I think I called that one first. See the othe BIEC thread. That's two votes for morphie. Good call.

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Miguel_Clavo says on Apr 7, 2007, 19:51:

i dont get it, Morphus, you arrive in Medellin, packed with hot chicas, and you spend so much time on PBH????? I would be out and about, not on the internet!!! whatz up wit dat??

Jay, i didnt realize he had started its own thread....You know they say that great minds think alike!!! hahahahaha...

Just my opinion...and brought to you by the lowest of the low, and foul

Miguel_Clavo =)..aka, Clavo...Colombia es pasión!

"F.A.R.C..S.U.C.K.S"

RVW orderded me to remove my tagline congratulating the PBH Mods New Golden Boys. Lame.

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poco says on Apr 7, 2007, 20:05:

Except maybe in Cali The only way you are going to meet normal women is to hit on them cold while they're walking on the street

If you're in a cab and see a likely candidate, STOP ASAP, jump out and get a date. If you don't some other gringo will beat you to it.

There she was just a walk'n down the street
sing'n YO WAH TIDDY TIDDY DUM TIDDY TU

Colombian Chickens are crowing about the new President of the U.S. who will assure that From each according to their ability to each according to their need.

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goin_south says on Apr 7, 2007, 21:25:

that chica is doing alot more than jus walk'n, poco Where's the Beef27?

Back to the top, learn spanish as much as you can before you go, like the first poster pointed out.
Like poco points out, you might be better off in Cali.

But, as long as you're not any uglier than El Duende de Valledupar, then put your pasty mug online, and start getting to know some ladies. Get a gold or silver membership on amigos.com. If you insist on going to Medellin, there are ONLY OVER 17,000 LISTINGS of ladies for that area right now; I just checked for ya.

Sift through a few. You're gonna see some genuine girls or ladies there, who will respond to you, but more, the more spanish you know. You can use altavista online translator, but IT'S GONNA THROW YOU A CURVE BALL SOONER THAN LATER, SO you gotta be lookin out for it.

You're gonna see some girls there between 24 and 35 and if you didn't know the ages, you'd be guessing which was which.

It's a numbers game. Just like the bar. Find some that are attractive. Narrow those down by profile. Write to them. Some will respond, some won't. Of the ones who do, you're gonna find a few you relate to, and who seem to be attracted to what you got to say. A few are gonna hope to meet you when you arrive.

If you start, be persistent. Just because she didn't respond to you the first time or the 10th, or the 20th note or letter you sent, doesn't mean she ain't gonna rape your gringo-a** five seconds after the first time she's got you behind closed doors :)

Worst case scenario: YOU'RE A REAL DUSHCBAG, and really foq'd up, and wasted $30 :(

BEST CASE SCENARIO: you get to pick and choose which one is gonna meet you at the airport :)

I'm sure you can find 10-20 to write to. By the time your trip is here, (which is when??)(hope you got a few months), then you should know 4 or 5 of them, or more, well enough to the point that they will want to meet you and spend time with you.

Only problem is with the girls online, is they fall fast, and will want you all for themselves. To tell them ahead of time, you're coming to see more than 'just her', might cause a hiccup or two, with some or most.


You can run, but you cannot hide... from SO MANY CALENAS...SO THINK AGAIN.... AS POCO SAYS.

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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billyb says on Apr 7, 2007, 22:13:

Morph, how did you... first hear of the 'principe Azul'? LOL.

"All I want to know is where I'm going to die, so I never go there" Unkown (at least to me) wise man.

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billyb says on Apr 7, 2007, 23:07:

Yup, those Paisas are always... looking for el principe azul.

"All I want to know is where I'm going to die, so I never go there" Unkown (at least to me) wise man.

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goin_south says on Apr 8, 2007, 01:25:

I think I'll start introducing myself as Juan Pablo Cortes that should get some respect, eh?
Juan Pablo.... isn't that Montoya's names?

Beef27; I think he's onto a good recommendation there. But, you better get busy on the spanish. (Me, 2!)

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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goin_south says on Apr 8, 2007, 02:03:

what's los hijos got to do with me speakin spanish (or, not)? It's coming along okay; I'm in about the third grade, I'd say. Maybe graduating to fourth, sometimes regressing to second. Depends on who I'm talking to, who's listening, and who wants to understand what?

I got enough books, music, cd's, etc. If my novia and I were to cut loose, I'd take a formal course pronto, and then I could easily fend for myself. For now, I don't think I gotta worry about it.

I do okay; I like the idea of being self-sufficient with it. I just haven't taken the time to take formal study.

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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ecco says on Apr 8, 2007, 07:20:

Hi! Hi
Felizafortunado thanks for mentioning that site above. When I visit I'm going to be mainly in National Parks and so on, and not much in the cities. I'm not looking for a girlfriend or anything actually.But I would like to have met people beforehand if possible for when I am in a town/city, as that will be the best and I will be more comfortable and relaxed etc. I would only be in the cities perhaps a few days at the most so I would mention this. Perhaps that site is good for such a thing.

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Beef27 says on Apr 8, 2007, 19:32:

i'm back i do have a few months before I go actually. I won't be there until July. I actually was looking into buying an apartment in S. America where it is less expensive, and because I have always liked the culture and way of life and family values there. and of course, the women are extremely beautiful. I narrowed it down to a few places, and because of the weather, I think Medellin is my spot. I work in Afghanistan and get 3 weeks vacation every 9 weeks, so I would like to spend it somewhere nice that is inexpensive and keeps me out of the US for tax purposes. I am learning spanish little by little, and I know I can pick it up fairly quick because I lived in Mexico for 15 months and never took a lesson and did well there. However, that was almost 10 years ago. So I need a brush up and some formal lessons too. Oh, and by the way, I'm world traveled and not a pasty white gringo....got a tan, fit and former US Marine and personal trainer. I know about security, as it is my current job protecting people, so that I am not worried about. You guys have been extremely helpful. thanks! Beef27

Paul WallSemper Fi

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Beef27 says on Apr 8, 2007, 19:36:

I will change my name to Pablo Miguel Roberto....now, just got to get more spanish

Paul WallSemper Fi

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coffee beaner says on Apr 8, 2007, 20:05:

hey beef27 in case you decide to put up a security company or something in Medellin let me know, I am "former" US Marine also so hook a brotha up!!! Btw hit up your nearest Carrefour or Carulla for some nice down to earth honey's when your down.

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goin_south says on Apr 8, 2007, 21:40:

I'm a 'former' Navy brat, and was just wonderin if you two still sport the 'jar-head' Johnny Unitas type haircuts...lol
If all this ex-military keeps moving to Colombia, they're gonna get suspicious and start a new list ;)

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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coffee beaner says on Apr 8, 2007, 21:46:

hahahaha... the high and tight haircut its horrible... I shaved my entire head while in the Marines, better then that "Johnny Unitas" abomination.

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Beef27 says on Apr 8, 2007, 23:46:

fully shaved head and actually, thinning a little on top. Well, when people ask if I shave because I'm losing my hair, i tell them I'm not losing my hair....it's just growing on my back now! LOL. Been shaving for the last 10 years and usually get complimented on it though. I shave just about everything as being a fitness buff and for some reason have a disgust for it now...like it's dirty?! Kind of weird i guess but i'm very particular about my appearance and hygiene. Coffee Beaner, was pondering opening a Private security company there but that will be in due time as I save my money currently working out here in Assghanistan. Are you in Colombia by the way? Semper Fi! beef27

Paul WallSemper Fi

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podborski says on Apr 9, 2007, 06:17:

exactly elmo! as long as you know the rules of engagement, it's great fun.

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podborski says on Apr 9, 2007, 06:44:

we should start a prepago fan club We could all meet 'the morning after' in the local Studio B store and talk about the night before while the girls try to struggle into pair after pair of extremely tight jeans.

We could morally support each other by telling the girls most of the jeans make them look fat, so they settle for only 1 pair. jejeje

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Wastelandlive says on Apr 9, 2007, 07:11:

Semper Fi Mr. Beef,

I just wanted to chime in with a tried and true: if you're going to stay awhile, consider GO TO SCHOOL AND STUDYING SPANISH.

Now: you don't want a dedicated Spanish school that you find on the internet teaching Spanish at absurdly inflated prices to naive foreigners. This is an example of what you DON'T want:

http://www.cactuslanguage.com/en/price_list.php?destination=Colombia%40Bogota&language=Spanish&stage=3

That's a f'ng joke, 820 POUNDS for a month of instruction in Bogota...
No, you want something like HTL: that school is REALLY for Colombians studying English, German, French, and Italian. Really hot, happening Colombians from the upperclasses... but there is usually a Spanish class. You can study how to chat them up, then do so at the coffee pot.

You can tutor English, right? Instant in.

Take your time. Don't make promises, you don't need to! Date around. Be upfront with everybody THAT YOU ARE DATING, not committed (a little competition never hurt.) Go to their parties, meet their friends, and you will - I promise - meet a marriage quality one soon. If you buy an apartment, and advertise that you are sticking around... the sky is the limit.

BTW, if you really stick around, and learn Spanish... the GI Bill pays a flat rate. You can make more money going to school in Colombia than you can working there. It's a very real option. Imagine the girls that you will meet in an undergraduate, graduate, or professional program.

One last thing: I love you guys. You are bad to the bone. Together. With your weapons. In a free fire zone.

Please check the faux macho bullshit at the door. That comment about protecting people for a living and not being afraid was dumb. What are you, bullet proof?

Do NOT get your back up in Colombia. Don't piss people off. Don't get into stupid drunken bar fights. Don't fuck other men's wifes even if they beg you for it. They will kill you without thinking about it in the wrong places. It's cheap: it can be done in the cities for an absurd price. It's NOT Manila, and the locals AREN'T worried about reprisals, and shore patrol IS NOT outside the door. I'm tired of seeing gringos get whacked in Colombia for STUPID crap.

Let your hair grow out a little, learn the language, join a gym, kick back and relax. You've earned it.

Wasteland

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coffee beaner says on Apr 9, 2007, 07:52:

Hey beef I currently live in NYC but my family is from Medellin and I'll be moving down March of next year to stay, just let me know in the future if you actually do end up putting a security business in Medellin, I was an 0311 (infantry) and did 2 tours in Iraq. Btw wasteland I was told by the VA that I couldn't use my GI Bill in Colombia, that would have been a dream come true! PREPAGOS.. lo mas rico de Medellin para los pasty gringos =)

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Wastelandlive says on Apr 9, 2007, 08:05:

Na... You know, the people you talk to at the VA are largely full of shit. Where do they hire, mental hospitals?

Colombia - like most every nation - has VA approved universities. Now you'd think they'd give you a list of those if you asked... but they won't. That list "isn't available to the public."

WTF is that? Is the VA trying to DISCOURAGE US from using our benefits? Got to love that.

/rant off/

So you've got to call them for each university individually. I would have to bet that Javeriana and Los Andes are on that list... maybe Rosario.

BTW, congrats on coming back alive, and thanks for your service. What I used to do was dangerous, but I think being infantry in Iraq must be the most dangerous thing going right now...

And woa, did I miss that? You guys are going to start your own security business in Colombia?

That's nuts... seriously, what do you have, a death wish?

Wasteland

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Beef27 says on Apr 9, 2007, 08:07:

no macho bullshit here Wastelandlive i was stating my "stats" to show I am not some old gross guy here and that I am very much a young active person and hopefully my money will not be what a paisa is after. i said the shaved head because that is what i have, and i'm not growing it out because it looks 100% better shaved! i am thinning on top. and i don't start fights, but i've ended some in the past when needed. however, i've walked away from situations while in foreign countries such as Russia and Korea where I knew it was a bad situation. and when I say I know security, I know how to avoid situations my friend. I absolutely know I am not bulletproof and am not thinking I am Rambo. I for one am actually living in the reality of shit people see on tv and have personal friends that have been killed, shot, ied'd, or nearly hit. so, hopefully that explains my comment in more detail because it seems you misinterpreted it a bit. other than that, you gave me some sound and friendly advice which I thankyou for. and for the others on why not wanting a prepago....well I am understanding a prepago as a prostitute mostly? if this is correct, I don't want to be having sex with a girl that might have had another guys d*ck in her hours or even a day or two before without a condom where that guy is all he does is have sex with prostitutes all the time. kinda scares me and grosses me out a bit. but to each his own like i say. unless i am wrong about what a prepago is? i would just rather find a normal girl and have no reservations about getting as freaky as I want with her and feeling more comfortable about the whole situation. i mean, could you "go down" on a prepago without worrying? peace....beef27

Paul WallSemper Fi

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coffee beaner says on Apr 9, 2007, 08:23:

I wouldn't go down on a prepago... CHIT NO!!!! thanks wasteland for the info, I'm going to find out about this GI Bill thing then...thanks

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bogjudge says on Apr 9, 2007, 08:44:

LOTS OF ADVICE - HERE'S SOME MORE I AM 58 YEARS OLD. I AM IN MANIZALES. CAME TO LOOK, WILL STAY TO LIVE. THE WOMEN ARE JUST SO LOVELY. MY SPANISH IS FLUENT, I AM NOT FAT AND FLABBY. MY LOOKS ARE GOOD FOR MY AGE. I HAVE HAD ZERO PROBLEMS MEETING NINAS HERE. ZERO. MY ADVICE? LEAVE YOUR PRECONCEPTIONS AND EXPECTATIONS AT HOME. TRY TALKING - ANYTHING WILL DO, EVEN YOUR PIGEON BROKEN SPANISH, OR NONE AT ALL - TO THE CHICAS IN THE MALLS, SUPERMARKETS, RESTAURANTS AND STORES. THEY LOVE YOUR EFFORTS. THEY WILL SMILE AND THEY WILL LIKE YOU FOR MAKING THE EFFORT. DO NOT EXPECT TO GET LAID RIGHT OFF THE BAT. IT WILL HAPPEN SO UNEXPECTEDLY YOU WILL NEVER SEE IT COMING. TREAT THEM WITH THE UTMOST RESPECT. OPEN DOORS, PULL OUT CHAIRS, BE AT ALL TIMES COURTEOUS. MEET HER FAMILY, OR AT LEAST OFFER TO DO SO. DO NOT, I REPEAT, DO NOT FORCE ANYTHING. THEY LIKE US BECAUSE WE ARE NOT LATIN MEN, BECAUSE WE ARE DIFFERENT. RUMOR HAS IT THAT WE TREAT THEM BETTER AND WITH MORE RESPECT, TENDERNESS AND SO FORTH. MAYBE THIS IS TRUE. I HAVE HEARD IT FROM THE MOUTHS OF THE GALS THEMSELVES. IF THEY START BY ASKING FOR MONEY, GET OUT. IT AIN'T WORTH IT AND SO MANY MORE JUST WANT TO MEET A GRINGO WITH NO OTHER STRINGS ATTACHED. HOW STRANGE COMING FROM OUR CULTURE (USA), TO MEET YOUNGER WOMEN WHO ARE ACTUALLY INTERESTED IN US FOR OUR SAKES. BESIDES, YOU CAN ALWAYS GIVE HER SOME LATER. WHAT WORKS FOR ME IS BUYING HER SOME CLOTHING INSTEAD OF MONEY. I ESPECIALLY LIKE TO BUY A NICE BIKINI OR SOME CLASSY UNDERWEAR. MOST OF THESE GALS ARE PRETTY POOR AND HAVE NONE OF THIS STUFF TO SPEAK OF. IF YOU ARE LUCKY, SHE WILL OFFER TO MODEL IT FOR YOU. THESE LATINAS LIKE TO SHOW OFF THEIR BODIES. THEY ARE EXTREMELY FEMININE, BUT DEFINITELY (THANK YOU DEAR LORD IN HEAVEN) NOT FEMINIST. SMALL GIFTS ARE APPRECIATED. IF SHE HAS A CELL PHONE, GIVE HER A CARD WITH SOME REAL MINUTES ON IT. ASK HER TO SPEND A FEW OF THOSE MINUTES ON YOU. SHE WILL APPRECIATE IT. AND THE $10 INVESTMENT WILL PAY OFF WHEN SHE CALLS. CANDY, ESPECIALLY GOOD CHOCOLATES, ARE A KEY TO HER HEART, AND TO HER MOTHER'S ALSO. YES THEY HAVE MOMS AND THEY ARE USUALLY DEVOTED TO MOM. BE PERSISTENT. THE FUN IS IN THE CHASE. AND IF YOU ARE TURNED OFF BY A JEALOUS WOMAN, GO BACK TO THE USA, ONCE ONE OF THESE LOVELIES BAGS YOU, SHE WILL BE EXAMINING YOUR SHIRTS FOR STRAY (AND FOREIGN, SAY BLONDE OR OTHER) HAIRS. SHE WILL CHECK YOUR CELL PHONE FOR CALLS MADE AND RECEIVED, LIPSTICK ON COLLARS AND SO FORTH. BUT MOST OF ALL, HAVE FUN AND DO NOT GET DISCOURAGED. WITH PERSISTENCE, COURTESY AND COMMON SENSE YOU WILL SURELY MEET MANY NINAS AS YOU TRUDGE THIS ROAD TO HAPPY DESTINY. HAPPY SAILING!!

"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." -- Mark Twain

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Beef27 says on Apr 9, 2007, 09:56:

thanks bogjudge very sound advice. actually that is pretty much how I am with women or have been in the past. so much anticipation on this trip, i cannot wait. i'm sure if i meet a woman or not, i will enjoy it. beef27

Paul WallSemper Fi

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Miguel_Clavo says on Apr 9, 2007, 10:08:

Security Company in Colombia by Ex-Mililtary? What a Great Idea?? Not to rain on your parade, but this has been tried many times with negative results. I suggest you do your research and homework prior to implimentation or wasting money on it. You will find the big $$ are not there, definitely not like working for the "private companies" where you are now with tax free money....but, we all need to learn lessons in life...good luck!

Just my opinion...and brought to you by the lowest of the low, and foul

Miguel_Clavo =)..aka, Clavo...Colombia es pasión!

"F.A.R.C..S.U.C.K.S"

RVW orderded me to remove my tagline congratulating the PBH Mods New Golden Boys. Lame.

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Beef27 says on Apr 9, 2007, 13:49:

you are not raining on my parade Miguel as I have not invested a dime and only pondered the idea. I've thought about doing it in the states mainly, and it came across that colombia probably has a need for it too, however I did realize it wouldn't pay much and would be a flooded job market already. Plus I would have many obstacles to overcome being a non colombian citizen and all. I just have many thoughts about what to do with all this money I am saving for a future business endeavor. beef27

Paul WallSemper Fi

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Miguel_Clavo says on Apr 9, 2007, 14:10:

Then you are well above the rest in smarts, then....i researched it extensively, and odds are not in favor of it at this time politically.....self-defense security companies owned by foreigners are not taken to lightly by the government nor the people....too close to the current paramilitary scandals that are the current topic there......however, you might take a look at the consulting business, as opposed to the hands on stuff....lots less risk, and depending on your contacts in Col, can be quite lucrative.....but remember, loyalty and trust in that business are bought and sold on a daily basis....i think the best go is an internet based business which brings you USD rather than Col pesos....but that is my opinion only....i prefer to work less and make more...funny how that works when you get older! hahaha...

Just my opinion...and brought to you by the lowest of the low, and foul

Miguel_Clavo =)..aka, Clavo...Colombia es pasión!

"F.A.R.C..S.U.C.K.S"

RVW orderded me to remove my tagline congratulating the PBH Mods New Golden Boys. Lame.

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CaptainHowdy says on Apr 9, 2007, 15:25:

Prepagos vs. Regulars Pregagos are less expensive and more fun (so they say.) I, however, would rather have a regular girl as she will spend time with you. I'm in need of companionship over a long time verus a "pump and dump" prepago.

Teaching preteens the things they need to know!

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coffee beaner says on Apr 9, 2007, 15:40:

meaning prepago... meaning you pay then you get the goods

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Miguel_Clavo says on Apr 9, 2007, 16:07:

"Work" is a dirty 4 letter word to me, Morphus....and now it seems like everyday is a Saturday....but i can only sit on the beach drinking Coronas with lime but no salt for so long...i have to keep busy.....i wouldnt really call my businesess work, actually, although the development of one of them is keeping me pretty busy....i never thought it would be this difficult going from a civil service job to the real world.....it has been a learning experience though....so, old dogs CAN learn new tricks! jajajaja...

Just my opinion...and brought to you by the lowest of the low, and foul

Miguel_Clavo =)..aka, Clavo...Colombia es pasión!

"F.A.R.C..S.U.C.K.S"

RVW orderded me to remove my tagline congratulating the PBH Mods New Golden Boys. Lame.

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coffee beaner says on Apr 9, 2007, 19:54:

Prepago vs. Guerrillera I just want to make something clear morphus... what you put as #2 are actually called in Medellin "guerrilleras" or "las subersivas" because they are all terrain and love to party it up with anyone. Prepagos in the other hand will do the same but not just with anyone, they have higher standards for the most part.
Great places to find "guerrilleras" in Medellin are salsa joints such as Sarao, Oro Solido, Jamboo and crossover clubs such as Canandonga, La Clarita, El carboncito etc. If you want to find "prepagos" go to places like Mangos, Palmahia, Universal, Circus etc.

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Miguel_Clavo says on Apr 9, 2007, 20:18:

Which ones accept MasterCard and Visa?? Just my opinion...and brought to you by the lowest of the low, and foul

Miguel_Clavo =)..aka, Clavo...Colombia es pasión!

"F.A.R.C..S.U.C.K.S"

RVW orderded me to remove my tagline congratulating the PBH Mods New Golden Boys. Lame.

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goin_south says on Apr 9, 2007, 21:14:

Does a Prepago and a Guerrillera, each know if they are one? regular girls and putas are easy to distinguish. These two categories don't seem so. Are these terms that they use amongst themselves? or, is it all in the game? You find out who is what as you move through time and space? Ja,ajaja.. I'm starting to sound not like Morph, but like MORK, of mork y mindy.

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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utopiacowboy says on Apr 9, 2007, 21:30:

Whatever you call 'em, whatever you pay 'em, there is no such thing as free sex.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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goin_south says on Apr 9, 2007, 22:28:

hey bogjudge! That was a great post.

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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Beef27 says on Apr 10, 2007, 01:19:

Coffee Beaner..... I would like to talk to you offline jarhead and you don't have email turned on on this site. Please hit me up on my hotmail at semperfitness at hotmail.com Semper Fi, beef27

Paul WallSemper Fi

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coffee beaner says on Apr 10, 2007, 14:59:

Does a Prepago and a Guerrillera, each know if they are one? I look at it like evolution... Guerrilleras are how the "Prepagos" start out. Eventually when they get breast implants, start shopping at Studio F, riding on BWS motorcycles and going to Palmahia thats when you know you have a fine ass Prepago!

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Mr. Hollywood says on Apr 10, 2007, 16:16:

Experts, please explain I always understood pre-pago to mean "hooker"; you pay and then you play.

Which led me to believe that a post-pago was a girl who put out but then you knew you were on the hook for a couple nice shopping trips if you wanted things to ever happen again.

Now I'm getting all confused with guerilleras, etc.

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goin_south says on Apr 10, 2007, 17:51:

so, you are saying then, a guerrillera may eventually evolve into a prepago.

And, from what I can understand, the colombian 'prepago' is something akin to the 'mostly about materialistic' broads in america (north, of course!). When the goods stop flowing into her hands, she's.......gone!

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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goin_south says on Apr 10, 2007, 17:54:

BUT... the important part of all this, I think, for the Newbie to understand, is that MOST OF THE LADIES, GIRLS, WOMEN... in Colombia are what you referring to as ... JUS REGULAR GIRLS. And, the next most common group, being Guerrilleras, which aren't so much different than the Regular Girls.

And, Only on a place such as PBsH is there so much talk and talk of playing with Putas, and Prepagos.

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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mecca says on Apr 10, 2007, 17:58:

I'm with Feliz on this one i've got a hunch this guy knows what of which he speaks when we're talking about las chicas. Yeeeeee haaaaaa Colombia!!!!!!!!!!!

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coffee beaner says on Apr 10, 2007, 18:08:

Exactly Feliz ....it all works out at the end, if you don't get the "regular girl" you always have the other ones to fall on.

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Mr. Hollywood says on Apr 10, 2007, 18:23:

So Just so I understand...

After you stop buying her fancy clothes and shoes she becomes a post-pre-pago by splitting the scene, guerillera-style?

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coffee beaner says on Apr 10, 2007, 19:00:

nah... they usually move up, get an old Mafioso or a pasty gringo with money.

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mecca says on Apr 10, 2007, 19:13:

CB, only if they are lucky There are so many beautiful girls in Colombia, in reality they have little shot at landing a mafioso or any man with a heavy wallet. Many of the "so called" hotties like to think they can, but only end up getting used by the mafiosos until they move on to hotter, younger ones.

Same goes for any man with dinero in Colombia, if the girl/woman is playing any games, there are 100 more to pick from.

Relationship control of a woman in Colombia is at or near ZERO!

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americanino says on Apr 10, 2007, 20:13:

GI BILL IN COLOMBIA I am using the Montgomery GI Bill in Pereira Colombia. The VA approves specific programs at a school not the school as a whole. I requested that the Humanities department at the school (Universidad Tecnologica de Pereira) submit for approval of their "Licienciatura en la Ensenanza de la Lengua Inglesa" (B.A. in English Teacher training) to the VA. It was approved and then the school had to submit paper work showing that I was admitted and enrolled. I am receiving the current rate of $1,075 for full time attendance (15 semester hours per semester). I am a retired Marine and worked in Iraq for 34 months as a contractor. Semper Fi!

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coffee beaner says on Apr 10, 2007, 21:36:

GI Bill...thats awesome, some questions though Would I need to do any paper work here in the States or do I do everything in Colombia??? Did your school know about this process or did you inform them and then they helped you out?

I am also trying to go the same career path your going through in school, so I'm assuming that as long as the college has "Licienciatura en la Ensenanza de la Lengua Inglesa" I would be approved regardless of what University it is... correct??

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goin_south says on Apr 10, 2007, 23:32:

skanky??? jajaja!!! that is a pretty serious accusation, morphus.

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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goin_south says on Apr 10, 2007, 23:34:

(If I were in that market) I think I would prefer the Gurrrilleras.
From what is printed here, (other than your accusation)
Prepagos are.... Plastic-minded.
Guerrilleras... more fun-loving, nothing or little of plastic

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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mecca says on Apr 10, 2007, 23:47:

Hell Feliz, the hell with which one is more or less skanky, i'll take whichever one with the highest foot speed for my "coche". I want to get out on the highway (carretera) and blow!!

I need a bumper sticker for my coche "no slo ho's" !!!!!!

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goin_south says on Apr 11, 2007, 00:09:

I'm thinking that the 'guerrilleras' are the ones you're lookin 4.

nothin I say is to be takn for my words, but rather for the words of Sailor Jerry.

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americanino says on Apr 11, 2007, 05:45:

GI BILL Colombia has their version of an SAT; the ICFES. You would need to take this exam and pass it for public univesities. Private universities only require that you take the exam. The exam consists of different subjects like math, chemistry, reading comprehension in Spanish and if you choose a section in English. The whole exam, except for the English portion is in Spanish. So, you need to be able to speak Spanish. If you pass then you need to go through the admittance process to see how much your tuition will be. Each school has to request for approval for each program.I had to guide UTP through the entire process because it was new for them and for me. Please take a look at the VA GI Bill web site (http://www.gibill.va.gov/GI_Bill_Info/benefits.htm). You may also want to contact the universities in the city in Colombia you want to attend and speak/email their international relations office or their Humanities/Languages department. If you don't speak Spanish you may want to see if they have their own Spanish program geared to non Spanish speakers or if their is a way that the ICFES is not required. The latest news I have is that the VA will not pay for language institutes. The website will give you more information. If you don't speak Spanish your best bet is to contact private universities that have a Spanish major or an English major. speakers. This way you can take the ICFES and your score won't matter. But, if the classes are in Spanish you will have to learn the language if not you won't pass all the other subjects. Private schools are about $1,400-$1,600 per semester, public school are by estrato/utility bills and/or if you graduated from a private high school. S/F
S/F

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coffee beaner says on Apr 11, 2007, 13:24:

Thanks a lot americanino... I know how to read and write in Spanish since I did 1st through 5th grade in Medellin. I might need a refresher course just in case but I shouldn't have major problems with it. I am planning to attend either UPB or EAFIT in Medellin so I this info is of great help. Do you know if they accept credits from colleges in the States??? Thanks for the info and sorry to get off topic with the "prepago" stuff.

Btw Feliz you are right most "guerrilleras" are too skanky to be "prepagos".

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americanino says on Apr 11, 2007, 15:39:

COFFEE BEANER Most payments to universities are not made directly at the university. You would go to a specific bank and deposit the money into their account and then you would show the school the receipt. You shouldn't have any problems with the ICFES. I never studied in Colombia and learned basic Spanish from my mother. I scored a 58 which is a good score. At UTP you need a 60 to study medicine. Send me your email info if you have more questions. If you have dual citizenship (US/Colombia) the whole process will be easier.

S/F

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coffee beaner says on Apr 11, 2007, 16:12:

Yea I have dual citizenship... I have a couple more questions my email is giojaramillo at yahoo.com

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pedro (☼Travelguide writer) says on Apr 11, 2007, 17:57:

rollow says on Jun 21, 2007, 14:34:

Man, there was some good stuff and some hilarious stuff in this post. Everyone had me cracking up. I am about to follow in Beef27's shows. I plan to visit Medellion in July for a week. I dont really know spanish and i am not a great latin dancer. But i travel alot so me giving convo a shot to a lady is not a problem as long as i have my translater with me. LOL

Beef27, i would like to know how your trip turned out, maybe you can have some tips for me. I can always be reached at Rwilliams1 at nj.rr.com. Thanks and good luck!!!!

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