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Avianca treats barranquilleros like second class citizens

So here I am trying to book a flight on-line back to curramba thinking the avianca modefoque I spoke to earlier this week made a mistake and that in fact they still have direct fights to Barranquilla from JFK.
I’m normally a very mellow happy go lucky kind of guy, few things piss me off but this chit me saco el indio. I’m mad as hell and aint gonna take it anymore and I hope avianca officials reads this chit (please don’t delete)
Let me give you a little history, first of all it was Barranquilla and my family who founded this fokin airline. Not only that, it was also the first commercial airline in the spic continent.
While Barranquilleros were flying around people n Bogotá, Medellin and Cali would run and hide behind trees scared shitless at the sight of this strange flying object. Now we don’t fokin count???
We had cars and phones way before it reached the interior, and we don’t fokin count??? Fok you!! fok you! fok youuuuuuuu!!!
I can’t believe that to reach my city I have to get on a direct fight to Cali or Pereira or Medellin, what kind of bullshit is that? Why the fok would I want to land smack in the middle of the fokin jungles?????
I just finished talking to them thar avianca modefoques and they explained that few passengers travel to Barranquilla compared to the over one million cachacos living abroad.
Listen, I don’t give a rats ass if only 7 fokin barranquilleros live in USA compared to over a million fokin cachacos.
We founded this airline and Barranquilla is the first city you see when the plane reaches Colombia , why the fok should I have to sit there and look at mountains and jungle for another fokin hour to do the same chit a few hour later. Drop me off in fokin Barranquilla even if you have to throw my black ass out in fokin parachute, fok my luggage.
Thank you!!

By elmodefoque on Apr 14, 2008, 05:56 in Friendly Talkzone.

elmodefoque says on Apr 14, 2008, 05:58:

and further more...
wait, i'll be back in a few, i'm getting picked up to be walked in the park with other dogs

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

robi666 says on Apr 14, 2008, 06:02:

When you fly to Medellin, before getting on your plane back, we can meet at the airport and I can rent my parachute to you, so next time you can just jump.
Try to not land en el Calancala, though. Alla atracan a los gringos.

"I am a citizen of the most beautiful nation on earth. A nation whose laws are harsh yet simple, a nation that never cheats, which is immense and without borders, where life is lived in the present."

El Polo says on Apr 14, 2008, 06:05:

Elmo, too bad I have alot of chit to do at work today, I like the topic, no direct flights to CTG from JFK neither, you basically have to fly over CTG, land in Bogota and turn back around! WTF???

RAAAY says on Apr 14, 2008, 06:05:

Nonsense...........when the plane is over Barranquilla it is actually flying low............no parachute needed..............just open the emergency door and say nothing.............

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.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

guacharaca says on Apr 14, 2008, 06:19:

Try living in S.M. At least BAQ has some international flights.

Colombianos: Las armas os han dado independencia, las leyes os daran libertad. (Santander)

webmanco says on Apr 14, 2008, 06:21:

Cuando el avion sobrevuela (R666) Soledad Curramba, abres la puerta del avion y antes de saltar dices

Thank You!

(I really hate it when women get their panties all bunched up their butt, they can get so cranky!) Poor butt happy

Corey3368 says on Apr 14, 2008, 06:30:

I believe you can get a direct flight out of JFK to Quilla on Thursdays and Saturdays

jorgegdiaz says on Apr 14, 2008, 06:34:

Santo Tomas o Palmar de Varela no tienen una laguna para botarse ahi desde Avianca?

Man with hole in pocket feel cocky all day.

elmodefoque says on Apr 14, 2008, 07:13:

corey, not even thursdays and saturdays anymore.
we don't get one single fokin day from avianca.
My great, great, great, great grandaddy Field Marshall Falco Hamburger would be rollin in his grave if he knew this.

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

robi666 says on Apr 14, 2008, 07:15:

Web, Soledad is not a barrio de Curramba. It is a different Alcaldia.
The airport is infact in Soledad.

It is good that SM does not have international flight. So for the gringos is easier to go to Cartagena.

If you look for a laguna to jump, which one is better than the Cienaga one?

elmodefoque says on Apr 14, 2008, 07:18:

why do we get punish by avianca for being the city where most of its citizen prefer NOT to migrate.
barranquillla, "el mejor vividero del mundo"

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

Tinto (Moderator) says on Apr 14, 2008, 07:28:

Try to make the best of your unwanted hours with the Potato People in Bogota. And don't forget your ruana.

robi666 says on Apr 14, 2008, 07:30:

And do not walk out the Airport, FARC could be waiting...

elmodefoque says on Apr 14, 2008, 07:36:

some fokin welcome?
little injun cachaco soldiers in bogota with machine guns standing all over the fokin place. who the fok are they expecting, hugo fokin chavez? or maybe osama bin fokin laddin?

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

elmodefoque says on Apr 14, 2008, 07:38:

you land in barranquilla and maybe you see a couple corroncho cops with pistols that don't even fokin work drinkin beer in the corner of the terminal

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

robi666 says on Apr 14, 2008, 07:41:

When I have to fly from Medellin to Santa Marta (no direct fly), I prefer to catch the direct flight to Barranquilla and then the Wayuu 7barras bus in Simon Bolivar cerca del puente de la Circunvalar.

No way I am getting through fokin Burungotà... you can walk out the Airport and if they do not kidnapp you right away, you can get killed by a fokin granizada in your head.

esanch36 says on Apr 14, 2008, 07:45:

Those costeno cops are funny....i went to cartagena with friends...one of my friends left on a earlier flight and said she was going to wait at the airport for us. She's blond, blue eyes....when i get there she was fucking drinkin with 5 fricken cops, all trying to get in her panties....i asked them if they were on break,,they laughed and said no

All right, I'll ask: How come it took three seconds to euthanize Eight Belles, but the Womens NBA is starting Year 12???

elmodefoque says on Apr 14, 2008, 07:46:

yeah robbi, that's another thing.
in bogota, they might burundaga my black ass and i end up in those mountains with a chain around my fokin neck eating a tiny portion of rice con lenteja in the company of tiro fokin fijo.

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

robi666 says on Apr 14, 2008, 07:56:

elmo, another thing is that i don't want to wear a fokin eskimo jacket when landing in SM... they would think that I am a turista cachaco y me van a atracar como salgo del avion o a cobrar el doble en el taxi.

slguy says on Apr 14, 2008, 08:21:

you guys are a fokin riot...:)

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

elmodefoque says on Apr 14, 2008, 09:10:

slguy, there you are.
where in tarnation you been hiding?

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

slguy says on Apr 14, 2008, 09:45:

had a miinor health problem...then some work travel, elmo. all is well, now.

I commented on your "mi gente" thread about gettiing together in curramba soon. i'm thinking to be there in late May...

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

El Polo says on Apr 14, 2008, 12:00:

fly COPA AIRLINES!!!!

Mr. Hollywood says on Apr 14, 2008, 12:56:

What, Elmo, your private jet is down for while?

panthdave says on Apr 14, 2008, 16:06:

Elmo just move to Miami.....and get it over with...Shorter flight and direct....and also Avianca is in the new Terminal.and.American flies direct now to Barq.........and gives double miles I think...

panthdave Miami

elmodefoque says on Apr 14, 2008, 16:37:

Ok, I understand direct flights to Bogotá cus is the nation’s capital and is located smack in the middle of the country between mountains and the vast Colombian jungle and is the only way NOT to get your ass kidnapped by farc.
I’ll even accept direct flights to Medellin simply cus over half the population abandoned the country to go live in Queens and Jersey City, same chit with Cali and Pereira.
How the fok do they get into USA, enquiring minds need to know. Most of the women chased gringos all over the streets back home and bamboozled them into bringing them here, others claimed “political persecution “ wink wink and the rest came and overstayed their tourist visas.
But Bucaramanga, why the fok do they get a direct flight and Barranquilleros are told to go fok themselves.
Even if we only have a dozen barranquilleros living in the USA, they should have at least one direct flight outta respect for the founding fathers.
Avianca, go fok yousef , fok you!!!! Remember where you came from!!!!!

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

elmodefoque says on Apr 14, 2008, 16:56:

and another thing, barranquilleros were the first one in the country with televisons.
My father bought a TV at Sears in el barrio abajo back in 1959 when we didn't even have any channels, all we saw was a blue light with static noise, BUT WE HAD A FOKIN TV

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

MitchAlvarez says on Apr 14, 2008, 17:10:

yea los costeños had tv's before they even had any streets with pavement.

elmodefoque says on Apr 14, 2008, 17:11:

THE HELL WITH YOU AVIANCA, WHO NEEDS YOU ANYWAYS?
WE WILL NEVER COMPROMISE OUR PRIDE.

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

Sam Salmon says on Apr 14, 2008, 17:31:

Is Barranquilla still in Colombia?

Actually Avianca treats everyone but the whitest of whites like shit on a shoe and even then....

' a la orden!'

getting better says on Apr 14, 2008, 17:35:

Sorry I am confused. Are you saying that Avianca is going to bring in a direct flight from the US to Bucaramanga? That seems amazing to me but good news if true.

elmodefoque says on Apr 14, 2008, 17:45:

Barranquilleros had traffic jams going back to the model T days while many in other Colombian cities were still traveling by foot , is a bitch going up those fokin mountains carrying 85 fokin pounds of fokin coffee on your fokin back.

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

goin_south says on Apr 14, 2008, 17:54:

the truth is... people who don't know nothin 'bout Colombia, never heard of barranquilla.
Now...however, those same people have heard of Bogota, Cali, and Medellin.
(And, mi padres know about Cartagena, ... but they wouldn't get off de cruise ship..jaj.)

..... leavin louisiana in the broad day light

panthdave says on Apr 14, 2008, 17:57:

Damn elmo...Avianca is flying direct to Barranquilla and so isn't American Airlines you just live up in Alaska somewhere..ahh New York....You need to get to MIA>>>>>

Flew Avianca..February not bad at all the direct flight MIA-MDE..and flying them in May bought two RT's for a good price...

panthdave Miami

elmodefoque says on Apr 14, 2008, 17:59:

of course all you know is from cali medellin and bogota, that's where you guys get all that free CHUCHA jajajajaj

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elmodefoque says on Apr 14, 2008, 17:59:

jajajajajajajajajjijijijijijijijijjj i'm one happy drunk jajajajaj

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elmodefoque says on Apr 14, 2008, 18:02:

While most in Colombian were still communicating by hollering at each other from mountain top to mountain top. "Juanesssss, no te olivides de traer el cafesito, con arepita, chocolatico y caldito puessss"
Barranquilleros already had phones and the first fokin radio station RCN

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

nueva york bombero says on Apr 14, 2008, 18:05:

Hey, Bring Shakira back from Miami Beach and maybe you'll get more respect!!!!!

webmanco says on Apr 14, 2008, 18:07:

Barranquilleros already had phones and the first fokin radio station RCN

Brough in to Barranquilla by Cachacos :-)

(I really hate it when women get their panties all bunched up their butt, they can get so cranky!) Poor butt happy

robi666 says on Apr 14, 2008, 18:09:

"Parseriiito, no te hacer la loca, enviame el romcito, pueeessss" LOL

elmodefoque says on Apr 14, 2008, 18:12:

and another thing, while my cachaco borthers were still walking around wearing fokin ponchos or ruanas, what ever the the fok they call it, we had fokin guayaberas, so there!!

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

elmodefoque says on Apr 14, 2008, 18:15:

there were no fokin roads in colombia back then. one question, how the fok did you get from cali to medellin and bogota with out airplanes.
wait, how the fok did you get to them cites in the first place, the entire chit was one dangerous jungle.
everything in barranquilla came via ships from the good ol USA
thank you!

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

MitchAlvarez says on Apr 14, 2008, 18:18:

parce baranquilla es un arenero el hp. no que perezaaaaaaaaaa mejor me voy pa coveñas, tolu, o cartagena.

robi666 says on Apr 14, 2008, 18:20:

Paisas get to Covenas

jorgegdiaz says on Apr 14, 2008, 18:27:

Emo, where´s teh direct flight to Bucaramanga , which incidentally educates half of Barranquilla´s population...
I want to know about that direct flight.

Man with hole in pocket feel cocky all day.

elmodefoque says on Apr 14, 2008, 18:31:

SORRY, I HAVE TO BUMP THIS VIDEO ONCE AGAIN.
THE SOUND OF THE TAMBORA SIMPLY MAKES EVERY HAIR IN MY BALLS STAND UP WITH INCREDIBLE PRIDE
i USED TO PLAY TAMBORA, I'LL POST A PIC TAKEN OUTSIDE EL FESTIVAL DE ORQUESTAS IN BARRANQUILLA 1979

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

getting better says on Apr 14, 2008, 18:32:

Yes where is that direct flight?

elmodefoque says on Apr 14, 2008, 18:33:

ROBI, THAT IS SOME FUNNY CHIT JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJ
IF YOU TALK LIKE THAT IN BARRANQUILLA THEY'LL CHASE YOUR ASS DOWN THE STREET

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

elmodefoque says on Apr 14, 2008, 18:37:

JD, I MIGHT BE MISTAKEN MAYBE IT WAS NOT BUCARAMANGA , BUT I KNOW THERE WAS ANOTHER SMALL COLOMBIAN CITY GETTING DIRECT FLIGHTS FROM JFK

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goin_south says on Apr 14, 2008, 18:47:

way back when?

..... leavin louisiana in the broad day light

droble77 says on Apr 15, 2008, 09:11:

Hi elmo,

I think Avianca is in the process of retiring some of their MD-80 series planes which was the type aircraft used for the flights to Barranquilla.

I'll bet once they get the rest of the Airbus later this year, they'll reinstate those flights.

No disrespect, but B'quilla has a rep as being very hot and humid, with little to do and see for the tourists. That's why the gringos go to cachaco-land. . . ;)

Still, it makes me think B'quilla might be a haven for certain expats if only to avoid the phenomena of expats coming in and blowing up prices for everything and "ruining" the local scene and culture. Are there any suburbs or areas in/around Curramba that might be a nice, relatively inexpensive place for an expat to live in?

Still, the humidity and heat might be a dealbreaker for me. . .

curramberochris says on Apr 15, 2008, 09:37:

Not that humid when you get used to it,lots to do if you like music, dancing, the sea, drinking,art, cinema.
I'm from a small island in the Irish sea and waking up here beats the wind and frost and fog.

I can't take more than a weekend in Cartagena, too many tourists and compared to Barranquilla, it is really humid. You can feel the difference!

A lot of people I know that live here say that they would never live in one of the "big" cities in Colombia as you can't lead the same life style as you can here.

Each to their own I suppose.

nueva york bombero says on Apr 15, 2008, 10:06:

How much is an average house in a good area?
I found a large house on Craigslist being sold for 350,000,000 in Bqlla.
It seems a lot, even for a nice big house with 2 car garage.
Funny thing, it's being sold by someone in my county (Nassau) on Long Island!

MaFe says on Apr 15, 2008, 10:22:

NY bombero...because there are many Colombianos here and from Barranquilla...muchisimos! Bueno de todo muchisimo!

"All human actions have one or more of these seven causes: chance, nature, compulsions, habit, reason, passion, desire. "-Aristotle

curramberochris says on Apr 15, 2008, 10:23:

Average house in a good area......all depends but on average from what I see in the paper, something decent you are looking at around 200,000,000 plus

nueva york bombero says on Apr 15, 2008, 10:34:

Hey Ma, where are you going in the fall?
I'm looking to do some traveling......?

nueva york bombero says on Apr 15, 2008, 10:36:

Thanks Chris! You love it there or what?
I've only been once, but I'm trying to figure out where to retire....

MaFe says on Apr 15, 2008, 10:36:

Hey NYBombero...want to go with me...we live miles from each other and don't see each other!! I would really like to go to Peru this fall, and Egypt/Israel this June...
vamos a ver....think about it...

"All human actions have one or more of these seven causes: chance, nature, compulsions, habit, reason, passion, desire. "-Aristotle

nueva york bombero says on Apr 15, 2008, 10:39:

Peru, definitely..... Israel? No interest.
Now anyway, I'm sure it's beautiful, but there is a war going on over there!
Be careful and come back in one piece so we can go to Peru!!!

MaFe says on Apr 15, 2008, 10:44:

No not to Egypt/Israel...to Peru!! You are too young to retire...

"All human actions have one or more of these seven causes: chance, nature, compulsions, habit, reason, passion, desire. "-Aristotle

nueva york bombero says on Apr 15, 2008, 10:55:

I know, but you have to do research early, no?
What if I get hurt on the job? I'd have to figure out a nice place to recover........

droble77 says on Apr 15, 2008, 12:09:

Just checked on an airliners board and the flights from JFK to BAQ should be back in late June.

That flight is one of the longest that the MD-80 series jet can handle. . . so with fuel prices being what it is, the costs just weren't cutting it for Avianca.

The combo flight to B'quilla and then Pereira should come back late June with a nice new Airbus A319, capacity 120 people

pedro says on Apr 15, 2008, 12:19:

NY, are you serious? There's a war going on in Colombia. Israel is more or less at peace, compared to Colombia, and is a relatively calm place.

You will find lots of border security there... but you get that in the USA too.

que nota!

robi666 says on Apr 15, 2008, 12:20:

"No disrespect, but B'quilla has a rep as being very hot and humid, with little to do and see for the tourists. That's why the gringos go to cachaco-land. . . ;)"

No, gringos go somewhere else for easy chucha.

"Still, it makes me think B'quilla might be a haven for certain expats if only to avoid the phenomena of expats coming in and blowing up prices for everything and "ruining" the local scene and culture. Are there any suburbs or areas in/around Curramba that might be a nice, relatively inexpensive place for an expat to live in?"

You want to give a try to La Chinita, La Playa (nice beach) y La Luz in Barranquilla.

pedro says on Apr 15, 2008, 12:25:

Robi, the rep is spot on. The chucha is pretty easy in Barranquilla too... but why would you go there? It's hot as balls, no tourist sites and the beach is shit.

There's a reason there's no backpacker's hostel in Barranquilla, and it definitely is not because all the girls suddenly started playing hard to get.

Nobody calls elmo out on his outrageous statements. That's just Elmo being himself. Most of the time he doesn't believe what he writes. But when it starts to be repeated as received truth on PBH, the reality should be pointed out.

que nota!

curramberochris says on Apr 15, 2008, 12:30:

It is hot and humid, there isn't that much to do and the city is in a bit of a state but I like it and I know a lot of Colombians who wouldn't want to move.
It is nice to go to Medellin one in a while for the weather and culture and nice surroundings but it ain't Barranquilla.

You only really come here if you have a reason such as work or family.
There is a place for everyone in Colombia

curramberochris says on Apr 15, 2008, 12:31:

robi666 says on Apr 15, 2008, 12:35:

Ok, do you want me to speak seriously?

I know Barranquilla pretty well.
Barranquilla is a shit of a town. Hot, sandy, dirty.
But...
nowhere else you can have the fun that you have in Barranquilla.
People are the funniest Colombians around.
Girls are nice, smart, extrovert like nowhere else. And hot.

I am sure it can be a pain in the ass to live there. And an even bigger pain to have any kind of business there.
But, you stay out at night just sitting at the corner with your friends, in whatever estrato, hablando mierda y tomando costenita.

There's a lot of feeling in Barranquilla.
If i was a single guy, I would not set a foot in Medellin. I'd live my life between SM and Barranquilla.
Italians are the costenos of Europe.

RAAAY says on Apr 15, 2008, 13:01:

Robi...... ' Italians are the costenos of Europe "

Oh Lord....help us...........all Europeans are hoping Italy falls off, and sinks into the Med Sea.
That way, all those fat Italian women, with their hairy arm pits, will get a much needed bath.

.

.

.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

toneloc24 says on Apr 15, 2008, 13:08:

Robi666 - The word is SOUL. The city is drenched in it.

All I can say is if I'm in Barranquilla, I get bored, chicas not withstanding. What are my options? Stay in the city and safely enjoy the different flavors of life that pass by. Or, take a bus safely 1 hour in one direction and end up in El Rodadero. Or take a bus approx. 1.5 hours in the other direction and I'm in Cartagena. Now those are some vacation options. No?

In Cali, again chicas not withstanding, when you get bored, what is there to do???? Crickets....... Seriously, Chipechape to roast? Juanchito? Av. Sexta?

In Medellin, again chicas not withstanding, when you've done all the tourist crap (Parque Lleras, Pueblito Paisa, Sante Fe de Antioquia, the chica gawking at Oveido, etc.) in 2-3 days, what's left??? The weather??? Yeah right. Crickets..... It only comes down to the white available-for-sale chucha there. You can't bullshit a bullshitter.

Bogota has many things to do, BUT I'm not going on an international vacation to end up in London, England with the cold, damp, foggy, rainy, maybe a bit of sun schizo weather there. That shit's depressing.

Pedro - Backpacker hostels don't define anything, but shoestring budget travellers. There are plenty of safe, clean, reasonably priced local hotels in BAQ already.

"Don't tase me, bro!!!!"

robi666 says on Apr 15, 2008, 13:27:

Interesting considerations, toneloc.
I think that Barranquilla's qualities are not easily perceived by the occasional visitor.
If one gets to Medellin is absolutely impressed the very first time.

With Barranquilla is more, like you said, "enjoy the different flavors of life that pass by".

nueva york bombero says on Apr 15, 2008, 14:06:

"NY, are you serious? There's a war going on in Colombia. Israel is more or less at peace, compared to Colombia, and is a relatively calm place."

Pedro- Israel is at peace? Calm place? It is the Middle East right?
You think Colombia is more dangerous than the Middle East?

I wouldn't be backpacking through Camelfucking territory!

pedro says on Apr 15, 2008, 14:19:

For the tourist, damn right Colombia is more dangerous than Israel. I've been to both places within the last few years, so my comparison surely counts for something.

que nota!

MaFe says on Apr 15, 2008, 14:25:

nueva york bombero says on Tuesday April 15th, 2008 14:06:

"NY, are you serious? There's a war going on in Colombia. Israel is more or less at peace, compared to Colombia, and is a relatively calm place."

Pedro- Israel is at peace? Calm place? It is the Middle East right?
You think Colombia is more dangerous than the Middle East?

I wouldn't be backpacking through Camelfucking territory!

haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaaaa

Que chistoso eres!
I know Israel is very dangerous, but I want to go AND..it has always been my aunt's dream to go there, so I have to take her...and I decided that since I have to drag her, I will drag her to Egypt too...je je je...

You are right about starting to look...just get married and have kids...

"All human actions have one or more of these seven causes: chance, nature, compulsions, habit, reason, passion, desire. "-Aristotle

nueva york bombero says on Apr 15, 2008, 14:27:

I have friends who go to Israel, but I wouldn't go anywhere near the M. East!!
I'm sure it's nice and they're promoting tourism, but it is still smack damn in the middle of terrorism central!

MaFe says on Apr 15, 2008, 14:40:

NY bombero...I didn't picture you the type to run from excitement...je je je

"All human actions have one or more of these seven causes: chance, nature, compulsions, habit, reason, passion, desire. "-Aristotle

pedro says on Apr 15, 2008, 14:41:

Terrorism central?

Well, enjoy New York and Colombia then, where terror attacks would be unthinkable.

que nota!

nueva york bombero says on Apr 15, 2008, 14:46:

The amount of terror attacks don't compare. Every day something happens there.
New York - not a peep since 9/11.
Colombia - sure kidnappings and other shit goes down, but not in comparison.
I know, I should go to Israel before I comment, but no thanks!

MaFe says on Apr 15, 2008, 14:53:

Pedro...you are kidding right? I am safer in NY....

NYB, it's ok I think you like Colombianitas better...

"All human actions have one or more of these seven causes: chance, nature, compulsions, habit, reason, passion, desire. "-Aristotle

pedro says on Apr 15, 2008, 15:05:

If you feel safer, then good for you.

But statistically, you probably aren't.

que nota!

jonas says on Apr 15, 2008, 15:08:

just go to Parque Tayrona and enjoy some fine Israeli company there. Last I went some Colombians there commented it was like being in Israel, just nicer.

What I have, I do not want to lose, but Where I am I do not want to stay, but those I love, I do not want to leave, but those I know I no longer want to see, but Where I die, I do not want to go;I want to stay where I have never been

nueva york bombero says on Apr 15, 2008, 15:08:

Enjoy Egypt Ma! Hey, read The Alchemist.
Great book about a traveler.
It's one of my favorites.