Asesinan a norteamericana en Bucaramanga, Santander, luego de ser robada en su casa / US Woman Killed in Robbery in Colombia

Chelesupercono says on Dec 16, 2007, 11:40:

How sad.....why would they need to kill a women over a computer and $300......

never go to bed with someone crazier then you are, you will do it and you will regret it.......

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miamimike says on Dec 16, 2007, 14:11:

Also 170 Homicides in 2007 Alone,,,No small number by any count

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.

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Atrevido says on Dec 16, 2007, 14:25:

They don´t like to leave witnesses.

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john_stark says on Dec 16, 2007, 15:10:

But the PBH party line is still that Colombia is safer than your own home town.

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juancegomez says on Dec 16, 2007, 15:43:

I don't recall seeing that "party line" anywhere, but whatever...

This tragedy occurred in Bucaramanga and nobody here, myself obviously included, currently knows exactly what happened inside the house, what the robbers-murderers were thinking of, what they knew about their victims, or what measures could have prevented this with 100% certainty.

It's extremely easy (and irresponsible, some would say) to claim that "oh, this wouldn't have happened if they were armed"....but without considering the real circumstances that's just crap, since people who own weapons can still be robbed or murdered and, likewise, people who don't have any can still avoid being robbed or murdered.

Too many other factors affect the equation, not just having a gun or not. A person who has a gun stored in a location they couldn't reach in time isn't exactly in a better position, to name just one example among literally infinite possibilities.

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rhydewithdis says on Dec 16, 2007, 16:40:

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gpkRhf58pHgnGNXTX7aWi8H1CxkQD8TIPU2...

US Woman Killed in Robbery in Colombia

2 hours ago

BOGOTA, Colombia (AP) — A U.S. woman was shot and killed as she vacationed with her Colombian husband in this South American country, in a robbery that netted $200 and a laptop computer, police said on Sunday.

Jean Oviedo, 37, arrived 10 days ago at the northeastern Colombian city of Bucaramanga with her three children and husband, said police Gen. Alvaro Enrique Miranda.

On Saturday night, two assailants burst into her husband's family home, shooting her in the neck during the course of the robbery. She died at a nearby hospital.

Local authorities said Oviedo is from South Carolina, but an independent search could not confirm her residence there.

Police were still unclear why the two men chose to break into the third-floor apartment where Oviedo was staying, bypassing other homes, Miranda said.

Colombian police are offering a $2,500 reward for information.

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vicshere says on Dec 16, 2007, 17:15:

something smelly very fishy here?????third floor yea right.....come on doesn't take a blind man to see this one coming......I would look closer at the husband.......the cops back home in the US need to do an investigation....I can almost bet they were having problems....and why not take an opportunity in Colombia to resolve your problem....wouldn't cost more than a couple hundred bucks

listo

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guacharaca says on Dec 16, 2007, 20:30:

Here is the link to the El tiempo

http://www.eltiempo.com/nacion/oriente/2007-12-16/ARTICULO-WEB-NOTA_IN...

Colombianos: Las armas os han dado independencia, las leyes os daran libertad. (Santander)

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droble77 says on Dec 16, 2007, 22:24:

vicshere, it may not be that fishy, but it's certainly possible hubby was involved in something a little shady, and pissed off/got involved with the wrong people. . .

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docwilliam says on Dec 16, 2007, 23:39:

I have seen home invasions like this in the U.S. and it usually had to do with an unpaid drug debt. This is exactly, the way I have seen it in the U.S.. But of course, that does not make it the same here.

"There's no time to panic"

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Chelesupercono says on Dec 17, 2007, 05:01:

Maybe they were targeting the house of a Gringa, thinking maybe more money,etc. and no guns.....

never go to bed with someone crazier then you are, you will do it and you will regret it.......

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nathola says on Dec 17, 2007, 05:04:

Oh my GOD this is terrible, this is not good for my country.

Nothing is impossible

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vicshere says on Dec 17, 2007, 05:15:

don't agree with "" targeting the house of a Gringa, thinking maybe more money,etc"""
she has only been here 10 days......gringos can live here undetected for years....10 days and the bad guys know where you live no way....here's an example...yesterday I had a small party at my place....anyway I had invited a friend from school to come....well she lost my address and phone number but knew the party was yesterday....she remembered more or less where I lived...so she walked up and down the calles in the neighborhood hoping to bump into our orange house...anyway she said she asked a few people and asked where the gringo lived...no one knew about a gringo in the neighborhood...I said to myself fantastic.....anyway she finally found my place after walking for an hour

listo

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elmodefoque says on Dec 17, 2007, 05:29:

this sounds fishy to me, another case similar to drew peterson.
wify of many years and 3 kids??? shitt, after the first kid most guys want out and
with so many hot mamasitas in colombia????
grill the husband.
It only takes 50 mil pesos to get a job done

over 5 million colombianos in USA and only 27 barranquilleros, i'm one.Curramba, el mejor vividero del mundo!

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Albatross says on Dec 17, 2007, 05:37:

"Oh my GOD this is terrible, this is not good for my country."
... I think it was a bit worse for the dead woman.

“Democracy - a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H.L. Mencken

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jorgegdiaz says on Dec 17, 2007, 07:04:

Vic & modefoque, I think it is very unresponsabile to start throwing arguments w/o knowing more than what the press is saying, I think that`s call speculation.
It is still a terrible and unfortunate incident.

Man with hole in pocket feel cocky all day.

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Gator says on Dec 17, 2007, 07:08:

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LAKE WALES -- A premature baby delivered after his mother was kidnapped and set on fire during the robbery of a Polk County insurance office died early Sunday, authorities said.

The 1-pound, 2-ounce baby, delivered by Caesarian section Thursday night, died at an Orlando hospital, Lake Wales Police Chief Herbert Gillis said. The child was born more than three months premature.

The baby’s mother, Juanita “Jane� Luciano, 23, and his aunt, Yvonne Bustamante, 26, were set on fire during a robbery Thursday at the Nationwide Insurance office where they worked, police said. Both remain in extremely critical condition.

A man who came to their rescue was shot in the nose but he’s OK, police said. The man charged in the crimes, Leon Davis Jr., 30, also is believed to be the man who killed two employees of a BP gas station in another Polk County city on Dec. 7, Sheriff Grady Judd said Saturday.

He was linked to the slayings when the bullets taken from the two gas station victims matched bullets fired during Thursday’s attack on the two women.

Davis was in jail without bond on a variety of charges related to the attack on the women. Judd said he will also be charged with the gas station slayings.

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vicshere says on Dec 17, 2007, 07:13:

if it was a normal home invasion and they start shooting why just not kill all and leave no witness......again smells very fishy...shoot only the gringa

listo

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Robert Jorge says on Dec 17, 2007, 15:43:

Ya Vic .... so, what's up? Been in Buca lately? Where were you the night of .....

Just joking

--"I believe in making the world safe for our children. But not for our children's children, because I don't think that children should be having sex." - Jack Handy

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vicshere says on Dec 17, 2007, 18:09:

well thank god me and my 9 mm were sick in bed with dam flu....I have a very good alibi

listo

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vicshere says on Dec 18, 2007, 08:35:

a news update
http://www.vanguardia.com/2007/12/18/jud1.htm
.....did i call it right or close??

listo

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Rob77 says on Dec 18, 2007, 10:11:

Thanks for the link Vic. Those details are freaky...asking for the Gringa by name at the door! Nothing random about it!

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docwilliam says on Dec 19, 2007, 08:21:

WOW

"There's no time to panic"

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