An Idea

rocinante says on Jun 6, 2008, 11:28:

Could you be more vague?

"World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Peso 1400 by November" Feb 5, 2008

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Bill Turley says on Jun 6, 2008, 11:29:

I have read many comment about people wanting to find good Peanut Butter in Bogota. I wonder if several of us might chip in to buy a commercial mill. The cost is about $1200 USD. The owners could get their PB at the cost of the nuts and a profit made on sales to others. What do you think??

Mr. Bill Somondoco

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paulr says on Jun 6, 2008, 11:29:

Hey Bill, Have you had an idea that you wouldn´t like to share?

"paulr threatens me with death !" pobrecito

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Bill Turley says on Jun 6, 2008, 11:32:

Yes but if things seem good for me then maybe they could be good for others, I have no interest in capitalizing on any more ideas

Mr. Bill Somondoco

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morphus says on Jun 6, 2008, 11:40:

Heres one:

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Bill Turley says on Jun 6, 2008, 11:47:

How much is it? Is it a home or commercial model?

Mr. Bill Somondoco

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morphus says on Jun 6, 2008, 11:58:

Heres the link:

http://www.pleasanthillgrain.com/nut_butter_machine.asp

Commercial. $1450 without cooling fan, $1610 with cooling fan (can operate continously)

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morphus says on Jun 6, 2008, 12:01:

With all those fresh fruits in Colombia you may as well get a food dehydrater too.

http://www.pleasanthillgrain.com/dehydrators.aspx

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Bill Turley says on Jun 6, 2008, 12:06:

That is the Mill I was thinking about. It is way out of my low dollar rate, price range. Hence the IDEA. While I could cover 20% or so the other 80% is out of reach

Mr. Bill Somondoco

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Peter (Moderator) says on Jun 6, 2008, 12:15:

A pbh community peanut butter mill ;) I like it. But the practicalities of it would be hard to arrange...

Poor but snappy

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tejasmarcos says on Jun 6, 2008, 12:17:

do peanuts grow in your area, bill?

trying to walk a straight line on sour mash and cheap wine...

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Bill Turley says on Jun 6, 2008, 12:27:

Nope they are hard to find infact The best I have found is /th Augusto area market in Bogota. PB Fans think of this 4lbs peanuts, 1 lb cashew, .5 lb brazil nuts with a little corn syrup if needed ( or melao). I think I could find a local ( my sister in law's) near Bulevar Niza where we could park a machine.

Mr. Bill Somondoco

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Cheers Terry says on Jun 6, 2008, 14:05:

Bill, you crack me up.

I look forward to having a beer with you sometime.

Cheers,
Terry

(By the way, sign me up for another 20% share, no problems.)

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Bill Turley says on Jun 6, 2008, 14:10:

Come to my finca whenever you feel adventurous. There is a nice post byGL from the meetup last weekend

Mr. Bill Somondoco

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gringoloid says on Jun 6, 2008, 14:14:

yea, i'll take 20%..................but I am never at a loss for peanut butter here............i get the peter pan variety for $6 a jar. .........or with the peso where it is....must be about $7 now.

but i've found that colombians don't really like peanut butter.

is there any market research on who the target market will be?

Who are the three blind men?

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Rob P says on Jun 6, 2008, 14:39:

My last trip to Bogota we made p&j sandwiches and some other peanut butter treats for the neighborhood kids, mind you this was using the not-so-great stuff they sell in Exito, they loved it. Many of the kids had never tasted peanut butter before and I do remember that we searched for quite a while in the store before we came upon the one or two selections they offer.
I seem to recall that Sour Cream was another food item they readily took to once we found it and presented it over plates of nachos....mmmmm!
Really good idea.

"The reputation of a Thousand years can be undone by the Actions of an Hour"~~Ancient Japan

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Bill Turley says on Jun 6, 2008, 14:40:

Target Market US the members of PBH and any other transplanted gringos. We should really be able to make a lot of pb for 6000COP

Mr. Bill Somondoco

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Tinto (Moderator) says on Jun 6, 2008, 14:42:

Is peanut butter made from peanuts that have been soaked in some kind of brine (I think this is where the salt comes from) and then roasted and shelled? Or do they skip the brine stage, roast them, shell them and then grind them?

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morphus says on Jun 6, 2008, 14:56:

Raw peanut butter is good.

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goin_south says on Jun 6, 2008, 15:02:

Bill, be careful about inviting everyone (remembering the lines from a movie: THEY WOULDN'T......LEAVE!) lol

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raw peanut butter IS GOOD! (unless... you're alergic to peanuts.)

Where do we go from here?

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Bill Turley says on Jun 6, 2008, 15:16:

Everyone absolutely not, I expect that all would know one of the principle people here well enough to recomend them.

Mr. Bill Somondoco

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mcheasley says on Jun 6, 2008, 16:08:

Bill, are you thinking smooth or crunchy??? u know someone had to ask!

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gringoloid says on Jun 6, 2008, 16:14:

that 'Goober' stuff would be a good idea too.................you know, the peanut butter with the jelly swirled in.

Who are the three blind men?

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Bill Turley says on Jun 6, 2008, 16:44:

Both are easily made with our own machine. If we can find good grape jelly or preseves why not. Actually the cruncy is just adding some nuts near the end of the process

Mr. Bill Somondoco

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tejasmarcos says on Jun 6, 2008, 19:57:

ooh! goober with exotic colombian fruit! peanut butter & ___________!!!!!!

trying to walk a straight line on sour mash and cheap wine...

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Rob P says on Jun 7, 2008, 12:09:

mmmmm..!!

"The reputation of a Thousand years can be undone by the Actions of an Hour"~~Ancient Japan

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Bill Turley says on Jun 7, 2008, 13:27:

Well all this planning is great but the ideas are moot if there arn't enough people with $$ that are interested in setting this up. I spoke with my sister-in-law whos owns Productos Mua in Bogota and she is thinking of getting a larger locale and would be willing to discuss the idea of housing the machine there.

Mr. Bill Somondoco

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gringoloid says on Jun 8, 2008, 07:39:

this is not anything real difficult................at Makro in bogota they sell the commercial mixing machine for about $400 usd. a few mason jars................some labels from my mac 's graphic program....................................and we're in business.

Who are the three blind men?

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gringoloid says on Jun 8, 2008, 07:43:

i like that 'marshmellow fluff' stuff also. it's like melted marshmellows; i'm not sure if they still sell that stuff in the states....but i loved it with peanut butter. a triple decker, pb and jelly between two slices of bread, and then the fluff and another slice of bread to close it up........delicioso!!!

here is a good slogan:

"Oh you need fluff, fluff, fluff to make
a fluffer nutter,
Marshmallow fluff and lots of peanut butter.
First you spread, spread, spread your bread
with peanut butter,
Add marshmallow fluff and have a fluffernutter.
When you enjoy, joy, joy your fluff
and peanut butter,
You're glad you have enough for another
fluffernutter. "

Who are the three blind men?

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Ctg Bound says on Jun 8, 2008, 08:26:

Bill Turley,

Do Colombians like peanut butter?

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gringoloid says on Jun 8, 2008, 08:30:

he says above that his target market is americans. the colombians i know do not like peanut butter.

Who are the three blind men?

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Ctg Bound says on Jun 8, 2008, 08:53:

gringoloid,

Not a great target market, as people from he UK don't generally like peanut butter, so I expect many other foreigners are the same, there aren't that many Americans in Colombia, certainly VERY few in any one area.

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tigredelnorte2 says on Jun 8, 2008, 09:13:

Check the price of peanuts before you get to excited. You might be suprised.

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gringoloid says on Jun 8, 2008, 11:28:

along with the price of peanuts.................transportation costs from Somondoco to Bogota would be a burden.

Who are the three blind men?

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Bill Turley says on Jun 8, 2008, 11:55:

My sister-in -Law has her locale near Bulavar Niza. The only time that need be considered is when I bring my own back to paradise. If however this is a better location I would be willing to host it too. Gloria and I with Wrinkles, are the only family here at the momment.

Mr. Bill Somondoco

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jorgegdiaz says on Jun 9, 2008, 08:07:

Coincidentally, I`m working in mill design (for african palm oil dry fruit). Something like this is what you may need but at a smaller size (and price...)

"To err is human - and to blame it on a computer is even more so."Robert Orben

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