ADIOS PBH

MitchAlvarez says on Jul 18, 2008, 14:28:

jaja chao pescao

"Ingrid callate la jeta!! Stay in France"

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ColombianoGringo says on Jul 18, 2008, 14:30:

Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

You know he's full of it and will be reading this thread until it dies out. This is the guy that got his feelings hurt because we had the audacity to talk about Ingrid's husband. What an attention whore. Ha Ha.

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billyb says on Jul 18, 2008, 14:32:

Damn CG, you stole my words LOL.

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Gator says on Jul 18, 2008, 14:55:

Me too,, guys

"Credidi pretio parvo emere et magno vendere tibi in animo fuisse!" .

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Saltador says on Jul 18, 2008, 14:59:

Oh, he'll be back. With a different name.
All in agreement with me who couldn't care less, make my response the last response, so this dies a quick, silent death.

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bigtexas1974 says on Jul 18, 2008, 15:32:

Yeah right..nobody leaves this place for good. If you did, you wouldn't post it looking for attention and the final word.

"Sex is one of the most wholesome, beautiful, and natural experiences money can buy." - Steve Martin "You don't appreciate a lot of stuff in school until you get a little older. Little things, like getting spanked every day by a middle aged woman."

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sloopskipper says on Jul 18, 2008, 16:22:

Neo Nazis, the sons of U.S. WWII soldiers?
Not really!

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sloopskipper says on Jul 18, 2008, 16:25:

Was a comment, or your post/thread deleted?

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houstongal says on Jul 18, 2008, 16:32:

Lookatmepee - If you're referring to this post, it's in Off-Topic. I guess the mods moved it there.

http://poorbuthappy.com/yourthing/post/invest-in-platinum-gold-or-silv...

"It is now official: there's no place on earth where you will not find a Peruvian band." David Sedaris

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tejasmarcos says on Jul 18, 2008, 16:53:

why do people announce their departure? why not just leave? walk off into the sunset with a little pride....

trying to walk a straight line on sour mash and cheap wine...

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houstongal says on Jul 18, 2008, 16:54:

I guess they want to make their unhappiness known. Maybe Peter should conduct exit interviews of departing PBH members!

"It is now official: there's no place on earth where you will not find a Peruvian band." David Sedaris

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billyb says on Jul 18, 2008, 16:56:

Because they want to see what people write about them, jajaj. It's the cyber version of attending your own wake if you could.

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ColombianoGringo says on Jul 18, 2008, 16:57:

I actually love thin skinned people like our dearly departed Hans and Franz. Antagonizing them is quite fun.

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sloopskipper says on Jul 18, 2008, 17:00:

billyb says on Jul 18 (today): flag

"Because they want to see what people write about them, jajaj. It's the cyber version of attending your own wake if you could."

But of course.

But does that mean we should say nice things about the dearly departed?

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houstongal says on Jul 18, 2008, 17:01:

CG - Is Hans and Franz going to "pump you up"? ;-)

"It is now official: there's no place on earth where you will not find a Peruvian band." David Sedaris

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ColombianoGringo says on Jul 18, 2008, 17:07:

Yes. You don't want to be a girlie man.

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billyb says on Jul 18, 2008, 17:10:

jaja, I loved those two guys. Sloop, i can't think of anything nice, so I won't say anything ;)

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Gator says on Jul 18, 2008, 17:59:

His first post.


to live in Colombia ?

Hello. I am a newbie here and I find this forum fantastic. I travelled several times in Colombia and I plan to live in this beautiful country. Can you give me any information about: - best town to live in (Bogota, Cali, Medellin, ...) ? - cost of life for a 6 persons family ? - difficulties in integrating colombian society? Thank you. Hans. ...

By Hans_Paisa on 2008-05-11 01:38:04

"Credidi pretio parvo emere et magno vendere tibi in animo fuisse!" .

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truthspeaker says on Jul 18, 2008, 18:04:

"It looks like all the neo-nazis of Colombia and USA have their meeting point here."

There are a few here, but they are far from all.

Remember, I can only tell the truth. No more Sex Tourism in Colombia.

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billyb says on Jul 18, 2008, 18:20:

truth speaks the truth, there are soem neo-nazis that are not members of PBH yet.

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vicshere says on Jul 18, 2008, 19:04:

this is completly OFF TOPIC

listo

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sloopskipper says on Jul 18, 2008, 19:18:

Farewell, or
another meltdown?

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Robert Jorge says on Jul 18, 2008, 19:39:

Another German freak. Hannsy, booby - pobresito amigito. Esta bien?

As a first generation US born, of German immigrant(s), I have to say Germans can get wierder and sometimes plain creepier than anybody in the world. Good riddance. But he'll be back.

BEWARE of gold diggers.

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truthspeaker says on Jul 18, 2008, 19:46:

What do you have against Germans?
There is a nice one actually looking for a roommate in Medellin...

Remember, I can only tell the truth. No more Sex Tourism in Colombia.

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webmanco says on Jul 18, 2008, 19:48:

No me toquen ese vals goodbye bad world

...A yo, déjenme queto y no me jodan má! ...

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CatGirl says on Jul 18, 2008, 19:55:

Bye Bye....Off to the tees maybe with the fab 4?

Love and Time: the only two things that cannot be bought, but only spent

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Buongone says on Jul 18, 2008, 22:47:

Sloop, where ya get those cool emotions?

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goin_south says on Jul 18, 2008, 22:59:

"Maybe Peter should conduct exit interviews of departing PBH members!"

Hg, ......you mean like the old, or a newer version of "Twenty (Really Meaing 40) Questions''???

Where do we go from here?

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billyb says on Jul 19, 2008, 01:17:

RJ, hope you don't take it personally, you are a good guy, just as 99% of the german people are.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jul 19, 2008, 01:24:

bye bbbbbb................uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu.ggggggggggg

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billyb says on Jul 19, 2008, 01:31:

jeje, Kat, do you know something i don't?

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sloopskipper says on Jul 19, 2008, 04:30:

Buongone, I sent you a PM

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jorgegdiaz says on Jul 19, 2008, 04:51:

... He´s going to start posting under CASSINI77 again...

"To err is human - and to blame it on a computer is even more so."Robert Orben

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dwmte7 says on Jul 19, 2008, 05:06:

did i say something wrong?

dwmte

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kernow62 says on Jul 19, 2008, 07:02:

If it wasn't for the Germans the English would be without a Royal Family.

If it wasn't for the Germans, Colombia wouldn't have crappy beer.

If it wasn't for the Germans, the US wouldn't be masters in torture, chemical weapons, a rocketry.

The Germans have a lot to answer for.

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tejasmarcos says on Jul 19, 2008, 08:34:

achtung baby.

trying to walk a straight line on sour mash and cheap wine...

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tasco66 says on Jul 19, 2008, 08:54:

“It looks like all the neo-nazis of Colombia and USA have their meeting point here"

Who, cassini, dolfi, buggy, romy, peter, tinto and desi???

They sure had me fooled…

Bravo, Presidente Uribe for the perfect operation!

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Plato says on Jul 19, 2008, 08:56:

Adios huevón!

The hottest places in hell are reserved for those [liberals] who, in time of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.--Dante Alighieri, (1265-1321)

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ColombianoGringo says on Jul 19, 2008, 09:07:

tasco, That's a bit much.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jul 19, 2008, 09:18:

It's really a pity that people can't have a friendly exchange of opinions on an internet forum without personal attacks, name -calling, mud-slinging and slamming. Shows very poor taste and even poorer style.

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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sloopskipper says on Jul 19, 2008, 09:24:

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Gringo Spy says on Jul 19, 2008, 09:29:

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jul 19, 2008, 09:37:

I do, "PoorButHappy". I have NEVER called anybody a commie, a nazi, singled out a member for his/her political beliefs and put a label on it.

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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adrimm says on Jul 19, 2008, 10:22:

"Desideria (Moderator) says on Jul 19 (today): flag
It's really a pity that people can't have a friendly exchange of opinions on an internet forum without personal attacks, name -calling, mud-slinging and slamming. Shows very poor taste and even poorer style."

I agree. We once had such great & civil debates filled with intelligent responses... I am sure that these days so many comments reflect such a low calibre of humanity & civility that alot of potentially valuable members must be totally turned off.

I feel like we are have become one of "those" crass & uncouth forums - reduced to grossly simplified generalised POVs.. like a roomful half-full of drunk people trying to converse.

Maybe in the future, the novelty "they can't see me, I can type anything *I* want " will wear off as people get used to the internet.

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Tinto (Moderator) says on Jul 19, 2008, 10:28:

Well, if Tasco lumps me in with Buggy (way off the mark) and Gomezman thought I was a gay Latino (even further off the mark) I must be doing something right. Ha-ha.

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webmanco says on Jul 19, 2008, 10:50:

Tasco66 estás requete atascado, purgate.

...A yo, déjenme queto y no me jodan má! ...

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pedro says on Jul 19, 2008, 10:59:

The demobilisation of buggy from PBH? Another historic moment?

que nota!

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tasco66 says on Jul 19, 2008, 11:02:

Hey, I didn’t make the neo-nazi allegations. I was just surprised to hear that…

Bravo, Presidente Uribe for the perfect operation!

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jul 19, 2008, 11:11:

Buggy/Cassini was deleted for breaking the community rules. not for his political leanings.

Tasco, estas pescando en un rio revuelto.

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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adrimm says on Jul 19, 2008, 11:18:

I do miss Rubz tho. Despite some profanities, but he had posted some very useful information about living in Colombia like his costs lists, and thoughts on life in Bogota for someone in the process of moving there.

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tasco66 says on Jul 19, 2008, 11:19:

Desi my post was supposed to make fun of Hans post. I guess some people did not get it…

Bravo, Presidente Uribe for the perfect operation!

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jul 19, 2008, 11:24:

Adrimm...the ghost of Rubito is walking among us, un at least two different shapes of his own creation.

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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truthspeaker says on Jul 19, 2008, 11:26:

Rubito posted mostly disinformation on PBH.
I can think about his funny economic theories, social theories, political theories.
Most of what he posted about Colombian life was largely wrong. Including his costs list.

His writing skill and scurrilous language did not help.

I don't know about his value as a musician. For what I hear on the web, he sucks.

Although I must admit that he is a real expert on porno and perversion, I guess there are other websites for that.

Remember, I can only tell the truth. No more Sex Tourism in Colombia.

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Monpirri says on Jul 19, 2008, 11:28:

"Tasco, estas pescando en un rio revuelto."
??? No entiendo ni papa!

Annette Taddeo for US Congress 2008

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jorgegdiaz says on Jul 19, 2008, 12:12:

...I´m confused Buggy was deleted (I wasn´t here to witness that) but Cassini77 is still acive (at least his profile)

"To err is human - and to blame it on a computer is even more so."Robert Orben

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jul 19, 2008, 12:19:

My mistake, I told him to choose one of the handles and then forgot to delete the other one. He stopped using it, though at that time. I took care of it now.

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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jorgegdiaz says on Jul 19, 2008, 16:44:

WOW !! he´s gone for good now. So now I can say I got Cassini taken care of ... LOL

"To err is human - and to blame it on a computer is even more so."Robert Orben

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vicshere says on Jul 19, 2008, 16:59:

jorge now you have to be careful opening all PBH email ... or at least you picked up a internet stalker

listo

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dwmte7 says on Jul 19, 2008, 17:58:

are we having a wake? i thought the guy said goodbye?

we're using up our ammo on each other again....what happens if we really spot the enemy? we'll be defenseless we wont even know who the enemy is. were so busy raising hell with each other.

hi maarit....i thought i saw/heard a sane voice in the wilderness.

dwmte

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Plato says on Jul 19, 2008, 19:42:

Douglas,

"Bye bye to you and bad luck?"

The hottest places in hell are reserved for those [liberals] who, in time of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.--Dante Alighieri, (1265-1321)

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Plato says on Jul 19, 2008, 19:44:

I read some disturbing threads from March 2008 and April 2008. Someone hacked into Colombiche's e-mail on Cblog and the alleged person is a regular here? I read both threads. Now Colombiche no longer posts here, as well as others? Also, constant bitching about the moderators too.

The other day I tried to have a discussion with someone that made a negative comment about my background - all cordial but nevertheless candid - and it was turned into something it was not after I called the poster on it. A couple of other people got involved and one of them insulted me. What's happening to this place?

The hottest places in hell are reserved for those [liberals] who, in time of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.--Dante Alighieri, (1265-1321)

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truthspeaker says on Jul 19, 2008, 19:51:

"Someone hacked into Colombiche's e-mail"

Why avoid saying the name of that someone?

Remember, I can only tell the truth. No more Sex Tourism in Colombia.

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Plato says on Jul 19, 2008, 19:53:

Truthspeaker,

I just read about this. What use does mentioning the name have now? I'm just wondering what the hell is going on here.

The hottest places in hell are reserved for those [liberals] who, in time of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.--Dante Alighieri, (1265-1321)

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webmanco says on Jul 19, 2008, 19:53:

Not kidding

...A yo, déjenme queto y no me jodan má! ...

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truthspeaker says on Jul 19, 2008, 19:54:

Amicus Plato, sed magis amica veritas:

so... ask webmanco.

Remember, I can only tell the truth. No more Sex Tourism in Colombia.

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Plato says on Jul 19, 2008, 20:00:

What the hell is this? A PBH Cold war?

Look, prior to me coming to PBH, I posted on martial arts websites. In one particular website, there was an honor system. In fact everyone gave their real names for the most part. At times there was some flaming going on but people talked things out - albeit in passionate and crass ways, but things got settled. Why should anyone feel they should hide behind the internet? Doesn't one's printed word count for anything? Even though members here dont' use their real names for the most part, it's about integrity.

Then I read on here: " Who takes the internet seriously?" bullshit. Well . . . I do. I get a lot of information from this source and meet people with common interests. It's a bit different here.

The hottest places in hell are reserved for those [liberals] who, in time of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.--Dante Alighieri, (1265-1321)

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Plato says on Jul 19, 2008, 20:04:

"Plato I love, but I love Truth more." I understand Truthspeaker, but that truth has nothing to do with me. If you think it does, then YOU tell me how?

The hottest places in hell are reserved for those [liberals] who, in time of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.--Dante Alighieri, (1265-1321)

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utopiacowboy says on Jul 19, 2008, 20:05:

Few other web sites put up with the nonsense that this one does. It would be the LAST place I would look for serious discussion and information about Colombia.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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Plato says on Jul 19, 2008, 20:09:

UtopiaCowboy,

You're one of the first people that greeted me in this forum from way back - you probably don't remember. Hope all is well with you.

Look man, maybe I shouldn't have brought this up.

The hottest places in hell are reserved for those [liberals] who, in time of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.--Dante Alighieri, (1265-1321)

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truthspeaker says on Jul 19, 2008, 20:10:

That means,
relax Plato and get used to it or go back posting into martial art websites.

Remember, I can only tell the truth. No more Sex Tourism in Colombia.

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webmanco says on Jul 19, 2008, 20:19:

We all get insulted once in a while, even tough I hate to be insulted, I can´t blame moderators or the website, I just breath deeply and move on.

...A yo, déjenme queto y no me jodan má! ...

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miamimike says on Jul 19, 2008, 20:21:

Welcome back Utopia! Are you just passing thru or back for good?

My Avatar-- Sarah Palin Says " "You know the difference between a pit bull and a hockey mom?? Lipstick!" Now on a Short Verbal Tether by the Honorable John McCain

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Plato says on Jul 19, 2008, 20:27:

Interesting post Webmanco.

Tell me, does threatening physical harm to anyone on the internet mean anything? I may lose my temper sometimes, but I never threaten physical harm. However, I actually met up with people from around the world, put on the hand and foot gloves, and went at it with them in sparring. It turns out that once you meet a person, it's all different. The face behind the written word changes things. I've become friends with most people I had harsh words with on the internet. Once you meet up and you know no one will punk out, it changes things.

I don't know, my shit is weird all together but imagine someone taking shots at Morphus? Jajaja? And I've read them! That's too funny! Jajajaja!

The hottest places in hell are reserved for those [liberals] who, in time of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.--Dante Alighieri, (1265-1321)

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goin_south says on Jul 19, 2008, 23:16:

"""even tough I hate to be insulted, I can´t blame moderators or the website, I just breath deeply and move on."""

that's a lil too much stress you're incurring, there,... 'manco. lol

Where do we go from here?

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webmanco says on Jul 20, 2008, 04:54:

Threatenng physical harm to anyone both in the internet and in person face to face means the one threatening has a loose nut that needs to be tigthen up.

I had been threathened on several ocasions, I am not paranoid, I don´t give them much though, in other words I don´t loose sleep.

I don´t expect internet personality in the internet to change in real life.





Most virtual threats are caused by a loose nut between the keyboard and the chair, not wait, let me refrain that statement,

ALL virtual threats are caused by a loose nut between the keyboard and the chair

...A yo, déjenme queto y no me jodan má! ...

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Plato says on Jul 20, 2008, 05:12:

"Threatenng physical harm to anyone both in the internet and in person face to face means the one threatening has a loose nut that needs to be tigthen up."

You're right again here.

Let me explain: I've fought for more than a 20 years in training and in tournaments (most in grueling training). After awhile, unless someone has a weapon, and if I'm called out to a fight, I take it as a joke. Guess what - my buddies call me out to fights all the time. Since I'm a little older than they are plus being a "old school" martials art guy, there's always some trash talk about wanting to kick my ass. I love it! It keeps me on top of my game plus I get to prove I can still open up a few cans on whoop-ass on these guys.

Sure I can get hurt but I've gotten hurt so many times that fighting for me is as natural as swimming or playing soccer. It's just sport as far as I'm concerned. So, one learns how to take a few punches and kicks to the face, locks and takedowns. I've been a little kid for more that half my life because I like to rough house. So, someone challenging me is near ridiculous because, unlike sparring where a fight is governed by rules, there are no rules in the personal self-defense and I know exactly how and where to break them.

Am I a nut? Yeah. I am, and so is anyone else involved in contact sports. Imagine threatening defense linemen from a NFL football team? Get my point? I mean it's ridiclous - those dudes are monsters. When they're happy, they bang each other's helmets.

What's even more ridiculous? Threatening people physical harm here on PBH or anywhere else in the internet with no intention of doing anything - just talk shit.

The hottest places in hell are reserved for those [liberals] who, in time of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.--Dante Alighieri, (1265-1321)

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truthspeaker says on Jul 20, 2008, 05:34:

webmanco says on Jul 20 (today): flag
"Threatenng physical harm to anyone both in the internet and in person face to face means the one threatening has a loose nut that needs to be tigthen up."

You're right. Now, breaking into someone's else account would be different...

Remember, I can only tell the truth. No more Sex Tourism in Colombia.

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aztec says on Jul 20, 2008, 06:47:

"...neo-nazis of Colombia and USA...peter, tinto and desi???" tasco66.

I am late to this post but have to say the comment must have been made in just. My perception is they are very far from this description in their outlook!

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dwmte7 says on Jul 20, 2008, 07:20:

i been sayin it adnauseum.....we're fightin in the trenches. why? when a real enemy raises his head, who's gonna cover our ass when we neither trust, respect nor defend each other.

the fuckin enemy would over run us because we're ALWAYS busy fighting with each other.

yawn.....

hello cowboy...how's the family and life in general. i miss your thoughts and remarks,
douglas

i don't hide my name....does that make anyone out there want to kill me? i think not.

or should i sign, natasha svensky?

dwmte

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jake074701 says on Jul 20, 2008, 10:15:

UTC, good see your name again, but no wise cracks? I miss the wise cracks y honesty that is lacking for the past 2 years or more. Now it is nothing but a bunch of blowhearts talkin about alot of BS and the rah rah crowd who likes to see their wisecrack y name on the web screen. Very little about Colombia family life and very little about great Colombia stories. Sometimes miss some real life tips and cautions for tourist we need to know, take care UTC and wish you well

Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

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GregYohn says on Jul 20, 2008, 10:17:

OK!

I just wanted to say that what is the big deal here?

If you dislike people then others are not bad. You take the good with the bad and keep going! Some posters are a joke and others have value! It is simple and easy!

12VOIP.com gives free calls to Colombia.Greg

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dwmte7 says on Jul 20, 2008, 11:49:

you tell em greg.............

dwmte

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billyb says on Jul 20, 2008, 12:15:

Truth, I'm also surprised that the person allegedly reponsible ofr 'biches hacking is still posting.

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jake074701 says on Jul 20, 2008, 12:30:

Greg, you are right some posters are terrible jokers y others have values, but do you know know or see how the jokers out weigh the valued comments? That a valued comment gets shot down for who they are,their past or because they do not bow to the rah rah crowd? The internet y this forum is not that simple y easy

Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

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GregYohn says on Jul 20, 2008, 19:42:

Hola!

Maybe I skim over topics that have become trivialized? What is the point of getting bogged down? Click on Active and look for the new posts!

I tend to bring up ideas that I have done or know about, so that means I limit myself to different topics. Having many posters just keeps the traffic flowing and topics can get past that isolated comment. The jokers can not do every post. They do other things besides be online!

12VOIP.com gives free calls to Colombia.Greg

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Azul says on Jul 20, 2008, 22:36:

I've been a member for about since December of '06, but I've read this site for much longer than that. My take on this, some of the newer members may not realize this, this site is not the same that it was a couple years ago. Even 1 year ago for that matter. Quality of posts, information about Colombia, the dialog between members, even the "entertainment" value, have all deteriorated. I am not about to write a "Good-bye" post as so many posters have done, but someday I will probably join the other members with more dignity and quietly disappear.

las cosas caen por su propio peso

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jul 21, 2008, 02:57:

Azul, the quality of the posts is something that depends entirely on ourselves. We can choose to either passively watch as the trolls feast on the comments that people who find them entertaining are feeding them with or ignore the bad and make an effort to post something worthwhile ourselves.

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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webmanco says on Jul 21, 2008, 04:19:

Azul let´s supposed we got in PBH as in Colombia, a democracy, where everyone who abides to the rules can participate. Now you can critizice the quality of the content in the site, although by doing so you are putting down a few or many contribuitors, and put yourself as a great contribuitor which could be true. It is good to express your opinions but at the same time I do believe you are been somehow off the mark, a little elitist maybe.

I for once had not seen PBH deterioriating in the way you described, maybe because I try to take the good out the not so good.

PBH has its quite moments, rush hours and has many lurkes who do not participate even if they might have something to contribute not out DIGNITY but out wrong information.

Last but not least who are we to judge wheter we got more dignity than our next neigboor, y/o poster??

These are not my words (below)

"This site is for learning and sharing about a Country that most of us here love, but it sure would be boring if we all agreed on things 100% of the time"

...A yo, déjenme queto y no me jodan má! ...

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jake074701 says on Jul 21, 2008, 06:24:

Desi, it is not exactly the trolls that have damaged or caused this site to get worse, it is actually some of the hardcore newer members. The trolls are just a distraction, but the continued badgering by the "locals" rat pack that creates or continues the problems to the posts that are 1/2 way meaningful. Sometimes/alot of times is hard to skim through the fat to get to the real meat of the info that I like to learn from y read about amazing life, culture or meaningful info.

Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jul 21, 2008, 08:55:

If we only concentrated at posting on topic, on Colombia (travel. everyday life, culture. food. news and politics, sports etc. ) and avoided all that gossipy posting on EACH OTHERS the site would clean up a lot. It may lose some of the entertainment value, though, but it's really a relatively small group who use this forum for their own, personal sandbox to keep the boredom away.

But yes, jake, this is also something I have been saying before. It's the internal strife, the bickering, the gossiping, the ill will towards each others amongst the expat crowd that has ruined many expat boards. Now this is not entirely an expat board, but a travelers' forum in the first place and a community of travelers and expats in the second. It's not the travelers who come here to fight each other.

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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Gringo Spy says on Jul 21, 2008, 10:02:

Below is what I interpreted as the mission statement for PBH:

"Poorbuthappy wants to do 2 things:

1. Make travel more fun.

We believe traveling is about seeing things differently. And meeting people. That's why we built this website.

2. Make traveling more real.

Travel isn't about following a guidebook, any guidebook. It's not about going down the beaten path. And it's definitely not about sitting in a hostel with 40 other foreigners watching reruns of Friends episodes.
We think that, if there is information, tips and stuff available that goes way beyond the usual travelguide stuff, that that will help make travel real again, about discovery."

Now you tell me how 90% of the post and subsequent comments on this site "Make travel more fun" or "Make travel more real"?

The Mods are responsible for this site degrading to the point is has. I'm quite sure it was not, and is not, Peter's vision to see this site become a sandbox for a handful of unruly, disrespectful hooligans. I for one have become quickly disenchanted with this site and have since significantly reduced my participation. It is truly sad how and why Peter has allowed it to come to this point. All one needs to do is enforce the existing rules and this site would be much improved. For example:

1. No sexist, racist or obscene language.
2. No personal attacks.
3. Stay on topic.

Even if only rule #3 was adhered to (and enforced) it would make a world of difference don't you think?

I could go on and on but why? It's not my site it's Peter's and if he wants to allow his wonderful creation to go down the shit hole then so be it.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jul 21, 2008, 10:07:

I just want to add, why is that when a member say good bye the same thing happen over and over again, the criticisms of the site,the mods bla blah and funny enough the old members who vowed never to return again come out of the wood work,

but funny they will never leave they are back with another handle but they are here.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jul 21, 2008, 10:08:

I have been in this site since 2004 and this site is like the stock market some days are up and have good topics some days boring... :)))

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Gringo Spy says on Jul 21, 2008, 10:09:

Kat1:

Why skirt the point I brought up. Why not embrace it and try to improve on the site?

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jul 21, 2008, 10:46:

because the site have improve in my opinion there was a time which it was rubbish, but now Peter have done a lot of good work here, keeping trolls out the site it is a difficult task, they will keep coming back the only way to keep them away will be not to open for sing up again but that would not help in the long run.

The site will keep improving and the flag system is much better because we mods can't go and read every thread,

now what we need is that many of you control your tempers

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webmanco says on Jul 21, 2008, 10:56:

lero lero camionero

...A yo, déjenme queto y no me jodan má! ...

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dwmte7 says on Jul 21, 2008, 11:21:

well spy....seems like you have all the answers to the problems of the day.....apply them to yourself and lay off peter, the moderators and posters in general. been around a long time? dont think so.

join the family, don't complain before dinner is served. be a guest, not a bore.

welcome to poor but happy.
dw

dwmte

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dwmte7 says on Jul 21, 2008, 11:22:

well said, kat.

dwmte

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Gringo Spy says on Jul 21, 2008, 11:34:

Dear dw:

My comment was meant to be constructive criticism and not destructive like so many of the post/comments here on PBH. This site has the potential to be a great resource for travelers but unfortunately a handful of the inmates appear to be running the asylum.

p.s. Thanks for the welcome but know I'm not a newbie, just flying under the radar.

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jul 21, 2008, 12:17:

Nah, you've been fully identified.

cheers!

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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Gringo Spy says on Jul 21, 2008, 12:27:

Not hiding my identity Desidearest I was asked to change my handle by Peter so I did, and for a Mod you sure are childish!

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jul 21, 2008, 12:36:

I know! But that "flying under the radar" was pretty funny.

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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dwmte7 says on Jul 21, 2008, 12:49:

well....i don't know who's new here and who's old....whoops...a lie. i do know who's old, been around for years with desi and other's. one name change because of server problems but same old me.

and as for lucha here, plenty of that. peter took me to task once for complaining about all the argument between the 'family'. but even families have heated disagreements...si o no?

so let's be a happy family and agree to disagree with smiles and without anger and insult.

dwmte

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jul 21, 2008, 12:54:

Yeah, douglas we're the veritable dinosaurs here..... ;))
I'm all for peace and campfires, holding hands and singing kumbaya.

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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Gringo Spy says on Jul 21, 2008, 12:56:

And sticking her emoticon tongue out is considered acceptable behavior, especially from a Mod?

Personally I found it extremely childish, rude and insulting considering the message I was attempting to portray in my comment was to help improve Peter's site.

"Desideria (Moderator) says on Jul 21 (today): flag

I'm all for peace and campfires, holding hands and singing kumbaya."

If that were the truth you would not be inserting emoticons like you did!

An apology is in order from Desidearest!

P.S. "Liars go to hell"

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CanadaMan says on Jul 21, 2008, 12:59:

jajajajajajajjaajajajaja

Good one Desi..

..

Formerly WidowerfromCanada...I am engaged to a wonderful Peruviana.

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CanadaMan says on Jul 21, 2008, 13:04:

Hola powwow !!!!!!

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Formerly WidowerfromCanada...I am engaged to a wonderful Peruviana.

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CanadaMan says on Jul 21, 2008, 13:08:

Yeah that is powwow getting bent out of shape for nothing..

I thought it was very funny Desi your tongue emoticon..


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Formerly WidowerfromCanada...I am engaged to a wonderful Peruviana.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jul 21, 2008, 13:12:

nope he is not pow wow canadaman :)

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Peter (Moderator) says on Jul 21, 2008, 13:13:

These "goodbye PBH" posts are the bests :)

Poor but snappy

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webmanco says on Jul 21, 2008, 13:15:

Now who deleted Faustiono and is this the same guy?

...A yo, déjenme queto y no me jodan má! ...

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billyb says on Jul 21, 2008, 13:15:

It reminds one of those "goodbye cruel world" suicide notes ;)

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CanadaMan says on Jul 21, 2008, 13:15:

Ok Kat.... hmmmmmmmmm someone with a thin skin ?

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Formerly WidowerfromCanada...I am engaged to a wonderful Peruviana.

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kat1 (Moderator) says on Jul 21, 2008, 13:16:

Peter (Moderator) says on Jul 21 (today): flag

These "goodbye PBH" posts are the bests :)

lol Peter I know what you mean

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truthspeaker says on Jul 21, 2008, 13:20:

"lol Peter I know what you mean"

And what about let us laugh too, dona? :|

Remember, I can only tell the truth. No more Sex Tourism in Colombia.

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truthspeaker says on Jul 21, 2008, 13:22:

webmanco says on Jul 21 (today): flag
Now who deleted Faustiono and is this the same guy?

Why don't you hack PBH and check it yourself?

Remember, I can only tell the truth. No more Sex Tourism in Colombia.

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jorgegdiaz says on Jul 21, 2008, 13:23:

Mods, good bye and return in the same post?

"To err is human - and to blame it on a computer is even more so."Robert Orben

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webmanco says on Jul 21, 2008, 13:23:

Send me a tutorial Truhspeaker, I would not be surprise of your real identity

...A yo, déjenme queto y no me jodan má! ...

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truthspeaker says on Jul 21, 2008, 13:25:

:)

Remember, I can only tell the truth. No more Sex Tourism in Colombia.

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dwmte7 says on Jul 21, 2008, 14:26:

i can't hack it anymore. i'm outta here. i try my best but you're all against me...i wanna cry, or die, or something or............................

dwmte

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Plato says on Jul 21, 2008, 15:11:

Unbelievable. Well, I already did my rant. Someone else's turn.

The hottest places in hell are reserved for those [liberals] who, in time of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.--Dante Alighieri, (1265-1321)

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CanadaMan says on Jul 21, 2008, 16:29:

dwmte7 ,

That was a funny post you made above..

Here is a virtual ice cold Canadian Beer.. better now ? jajajajajajajajjajaja

http://www.ratebeer.com/beerimages/full_size/203.jpg

..

Formerly WidowerfromCanada...I am engaged to a wonderful Peruviana.

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dwmte7 says on Jul 21, 2008, 19:54:

thanks brother, i needed that......................now it's time for the old man to sleep.

dwmte

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Desideria (Moderator) says on Jul 22, 2008, 09:58:

"When shall we three meet again? In thunder, lightning, or in rain?"(First Witch in Macbeth)

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ColombianoGringo says on Jul 22, 2008, 09:58:

Ha Ha. Who asked you back?

I call...


We knew you'd be back. What an attention whore.

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webmanco says on Jul 22, 2008, 09:59:

Look who is back el Paisa himself.

...A yo, déjenme queto y no me jodan má! ...

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ColombianoGringo says on Jul 22, 2008, 10:01:

I'd be really interested to see if he can name a single real member that asked him back.

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ColombianoGringo says on Jul 22, 2008, 10:05:

You know us ultra right-wing, disgusting Uribista types. We want you to rat out your co-conspirators to the secret police death squads.

I just think you're full of it and that no one begged you to come back. You never left. If you really wanted to leave, you'd have deleted your account.

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morphus says on Jul 22, 2008, 10:10:

Hans? Thats a nice name! I'd liked to leave too but my window washing job is too boring. The building is only 10 floors. It only takes me an hour to clean all the windows and then I have 7 hours to post on here :)

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CanadaMan says on Jul 22, 2008, 11:12:

I think Hans wrote emails to himself asking himself to stay.. lol

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Formerly WidowerfromCanada...I am engaged to a wonderful Peruviana.

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tomtom33 says on Jul 22, 2008, 11:59:

With good han(d)s you can take care of yourself.

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billyb says on Jul 22, 2008, 13:18:

Did hans just get deleted? I am not seeing what you guys are talking about.

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houstongal says on Jul 22, 2008, 13:41:

Looks like it BB. The original post shows (Deleted user). I guess the 2 posts that he put up today put him over the edge.

"It is now official: there's no place on earth where you will not find a Peruvian band." David Sedaris

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jorgegdiaz says on Jul 22, 2008, 17:54:

Knowing Cassini77 / Buggy / Hans_paisa, I'm guessing he'll be back as "deleted_user". IT's his sarcastic style...

"To err is human - and to blame it on a computer is even more so."Robert Orben

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Azul says on Jul 22, 2008, 18:18:

I can't keep track of who is who....all the newbies who are old timmers and all the members with multiple id's. It's confusing....no wonder Canadaman thinks everyone is powwow. Buggy was also Hans_paisa??

las cosas caen por su propio peso

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truthspeaker says on Jul 22, 2008, 20:08:

You're right Azul.
Canadaman would think a stone is powwow. It is like an erotic obsession.

Remember, I can only tell the truth. No more Sex Tourism in Colombia.

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CanadaMan says on Jul 22, 2008, 21:22:

JAJAJJAJJAJJAJAJAAJAAJAJAJ.. truthspeaker .. I like your sense of humour..

Actually I suspect I am powwow myself.. jajajajaja

Have a good one everyone..

..

Formerly WidowerfromCanada...I am engaged to a wonderful Peruviana.

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goin_south says on Jul 23, 2008, 06:09:

then mark one up there for 'm, as being: 'funny'.

Where do we go from here?

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CanadaMan says on Jul 23, 2008, 09:15:

ok truthspeaker I gave you 1 funny...


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Formerly WidowerfromCanada...I am engaged to a wonderful Peruviana.

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