Abortions in Medellin

NJ C Rep says on Nov 10, 2007, 10:47:

I am not too sure if we can help you with that. Yes... abortions are illegal here but in the big picture, legal abortions in the states or anywhere else aren't "safe" either. Way too many under reported complications for the mother. The safest thing for the three parties to do is to have your cousin man up and take care of the people in his life.

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Ekdog says on Nov 10, 2007, 11:05:

If you can't find a solution in Colombia, it occurs to me that you might consider Venezuela. I imagine the Church has far less power there than it used to.

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Ekdog says on Nov 10, 2007, 11:07:

at NJ C Rep:

There's a girl in trouble. Please keep your right-wing, fundamentalist views to yourself.

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Medellin Traveler says on Nov 10, 2007, 11:38:

njtea5,

YOur friend has gotten himself, and you as well, into a lot of problems.

I do not think the answer will be an abortion, especially in Colombia.

Tell "your friend" that he should look into another options in the process.

Just for the record, I'm Pro-Choice.

GOOD LUCK!

"Huevos Rancheros en Medellin, No Quiero Taco Bell." - www.medellintraveler.com

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TonyMattei says on Nov 10, 2007, 12:28:

i say have the baby.......be man and face your problems you make your bed... you lie in it

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NJ C Rep says on Nov 10, 2007, 12:56:

Right wing is a position in hockey and I can't skate... Don't be so quick to lable positions just because you don't agree with them.

As far as solutions for this young lady goes, here is an option for you...

www.la-casa.org

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Medellin Traveler says on Nov 10, 2007, 13:07:

NJ C Rep,

THANK YOU for the link!

"Huevos Rancheros en Medellin, No Quiero Taco Bell." - www.medellintraveler.com

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Lowell says on Nov 10, 2007, 13:39:

Oh sure, if it's not convient for you it's ok to take a life of an unborn inocent child. Life begins upon conception. I payed for 18 years in the States. I was tricked and lied to by the mother who said that she couldn't get pregnant. I still stepped up to the plate and met my responsibilities. For 18 years they both messed with me. One month after the childs 18th birthday I said good bye and farewell to the both of them.

Alfred E. Newman. "What. Me Worry?"

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vicshere says on Nov 10, 2007, 13:44:

hey lowell dont feel bad i am twice as stuipd as you i did it twice and paid for 18X2...... thank god thats over

listo

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Lowell says on Nov 10, 2007, 14:00:

I'll toast to that!

Alfred E. Newman. "What. Me Worry?"

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TonyMattei says on Nov 10, 2007, 14:04:

hey lowell....your pathetic ..... no love for what you created..... thats a shame someone needs to say goodbye to you..

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vicshere says on Nov 10, 2007, 14:37:

hey Tony when the daughters are a harden copy of the X and the X has brought them up you will want to say goodbye forever...remember the daughter grows up to hate the father as per the mother info ..its sad but true in many situations

listo

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Lowell says on Nov 10, 2007, 16:09:

Thanks for the name calling. No love for what I created? I was a sperm donor and nothing more. I guess it's ok for people to lie, hide truths, cheat, spread untrue info, not repay debts, treat another like shit or a sub human being, and on and on. Even after the turd/child turned 21 he was still being a total asshole. To top it off, 1 year prior to him being born, on Christmas Eve my girlfriends son was killed by a car. I was too much of a reminder of her son to mygirlfriend and one month later, I had to let het go too. I was still greiving. Then a woman I barely knew did that to me. She knew my history and my ongoing greif. 30 years later I'm now taking the chance again and have a wonderful 22 month old baby girl. I'm trying not to be too overprotective.

Alfred E. Newman. "What. Me Worry?"

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slguy says on Nov 10, 2007, 16:35:

Jesus Christ, but there's some judgemental modefoques around here.

You moralists oughta know just a hair more what you're talking about before you start making accusations, or telling other folks how to live their lives. The world's NOT a black/white place- it's shades of gray.

Before you throw me out, make sure I pay my bar tab

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njtea5 says on Nov 10, 2007, 16:46:

well i dont think a young girl is in trouble of course there will be no actions taken unless both parties are in agreement my cousin will man up to any decesion that is decided. But i kniw he wants to know his options.

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Robert Jorge says on Nov 10, 2007, 19:03:

As usual, I agree with slyguy. Everybody chill .... chances are, we are on the "same team" so to speak. The brief posts here do not explain 90 % of the whole story(s). A few people here were quick to get upset without hardly any information. Then it snowballed. Anyway, I digress. I hope this calms down and some friendly discussion begins. It (abortion) is a "hot-button" issue, with very strong, emotional opinions coming from every angle. But surely we are all adult enough to have a calm discussion. Heck, if you are hardcore anti-abortion, calmly explaining your point of view would be more productive than the quick to be defensive attitude. And same to the hardcore pro-choicers.

--"I believe in making the world safe for our children. But not for our children's children, because I don't think that children should be having sex." - Jack Handy

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Leeroy says on Nov 10, 2007, 21:47:

More to the point...

The OP didn't ask if abortion (or, ahem, "abortation") was the right choice or not - they asked where/how it might be found. People answering "abortion is wrong!" (or words thereof) is akin to me asking someone where I can buy cigarettes and them answering "You shouldn't smoke!".

The OP was never asking for a heavy moral debate, nor implying that they valued the opinions of posters on the matter. They simply wanted to know where someone could get an abortion.

Hell, if I knew, I'd tell them.

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Peter (Moderator) says on Nov 11, 2007, 00:46:

Abortion in Colombia is illegal.

In practice, what happens often is that you ask around and you know some doctor who does it, in some private house. Some places will have a psychologist available.

The risk is that often it is done in bad circumstances, with potential harm for the mother.

Your best bet would probably be to go to some gyneacologysts and simply ask them. Just make appointments with 5 of them and ask.

Poor but snappy

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lawyer CO says on Nov 11, 2007, 08:48:

The abortion is legal in Colombia only in 3 cases:

1. When the pregancy was producted of a sexual assault. You would need to fill a police report and be part of a criminal case.

2. When the mother has risk to loose her life during the pregancy. Certain steps followed by hospital must be accomplished to get the permission.

3. When the woman was pregant through artificil methods without her permission.same as above.

The rule is clear but many hospital denied the abortion so you need to get lawyer in order to sue for the permission ( 90%) of the cases.

Esteban R.
lawyer CO
email: lawyerscolombia at yahoo.com

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john_stark says on Nov 11, 2007, 09:42:

If you're well-connected you can easily get an abortion in Colombia.

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Berenger says on Nov 11, 2007, 16:45:

There is an institution that helped me back in the days, they don't publicly admit it but they can help with stuff ranging from the morning after pill until chemical abortions for the first 2 months and real abortions for later stages of pregnancy. They have psychologists and social workers and offer you many options, adoptions and abortions included. Drop me a line at arenis at informatik.uni-freiburg.de and I could give you more details if you are interested.

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juancegomez says on Nov 12, 2007, 11:17:

Yes, it's easy enough to get an illegal abortion regardless of the details, if that's what you want.

But otherwise...

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3. When the woman was pregant through artificil methods without her permission.same as above."

The other two conditions are correct, but this one seems questionable (I have no idea whether the law allows it or not).

I do know that the other, semi-recently legalized condition you are missing is the one about birth/genetic defects making the fetus non-viable.

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morphus says on Nov 12, 2007, 11:20:

They used to do them with a coat hanger in the old days. Kind of dangerous though.

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morphus says on Nov 12, 2007, 11:22:

Fly her to Cuba...good doctors and its legal. They do abortions up to 10 weeks.

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coffee beaner says on Nov 12, 2007, 15:00:

"NO GLOVE, NO LOVE"!

Y mas sabiendo como son de perras las viejas aqui en Medallo.

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