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My friend arrived in UNI today with an interesting story that i think you should know. I´m sure most of you are aware of this trick in some form but will do no harm in reminding people.
He is from Norway and does stand out quite a bit. The story goes as follows.
He and his friend(which is a huge guy incidently) went to a club which is open till 8am (Can´t remember the name of the club right now but it´s in Medellin) at about 4am. Inside the club they met a group of young people (2 girls and 3 guys) and got acquainted with them. He said that they in no way looked like the threatening type, just typical looking people and very friendly.
Anyway, after a while his friend asked them if they would like to go back to their house to continue the party, my friend said that they refused at first(probably gaining more confidence) but eventually they agreed and off they went.
In the apartment they carried in drinking and getting on just fine, the next thing he remembers is waking up the next morning at 11am with everything he owns gone, cameras, DVD, Laptop, Passport, Money, Keys everything of value! over 10 million pesos in value
He went next door to his friends apartment and found him still asleep, also with everything gone!
I know i lot of you guys are going to say that he is foolish for letting anyone into his house, he sure knows this now but it just goes to show that if you let your guard down once you can be severely punished for it. I know i wouldn´t let just anyone into my apartment but i can see how it can easily happen if your confidence is gained.
The Police were called and are investigating but what would you guys do if they did catch them(unlikely) and you had to testify against them? I mean, these guys could be connected and cause far more problems for you if they decided to threaten you not to talk. Not a nice situation to say the least.
What is interesting to me is that these people had the drugs on them and were prepared for it, does this happen a lot to Colombian people here or were they after a traveller?
By paulr on Mar 25, 2008, 16:57 in Friendly Talkzone.
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Cheers Terry says on Mar 25, 2008, 17:12: Ouch!
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tejasmarcos says on Mar 25, 2008, 17:16: mickey finn, south american style. trying to walk a straight line on sour mash and cheap wine... 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Mike19 says on Mar 25, 2008, 17:21: ouch also - sorry to hear that terrible story.
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darkangel305 says on Mar 25, 2008, 17:25: is there a way to protect yourself or just be anti social?
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DodgerDogs says on Mar 25, 2008, 17:27: Sad if true , also your friend know knows ,that when in Colombia for the first time never ever ( Not just Colombia any place any where on earth ) Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.Martin Luther King: 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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tejasmarcos says on Mar 25, 2008, 17:28: how are the guys, paul? hopefully no aftereffects other than the loss of personal property? trying to walk a straight line on sour mash and cheap wine... 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Cheers Terry says on Mar 25, 2008, 17:28: The cop I spoke to said the new drugs were so powerful that you could be knocked out cold by someone simply opening up a map to ask for directions, then blowing the powder in your face.
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paulr says on Mar 25, 2008, 17:29: Watch your drinks like a hawk. The thing in this case is that my friend aproched them in the club, how unlucky is that? "paulr threatens me with death !" pobrecito 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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paulr says on Mar 25, 2008, 17:38: He was a bit dazed today but luckily has his kidneys :), think he feels a little silly and pride is hurt a bit but he said it wont scare him away from Medellin. "paulr threatens me with death !" pobrecito 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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tejasmarcos says on Mar 25, 2008, 17:40: sure would be nice to know what club those guys were in. any idea? in lleras? trying to walk a straight line on sour mash and cheap wine... 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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paulr says on Mar 25, 2008, 17:42: It wasn´t in Lleras, I think it was in Las Palmas. He said he´s going back to look for them "paulr threatens me with death !" pobrecito 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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DodgerDogs says on Mar 25, 2008, 17:45: In Medellin in most clubs be it ( Mangos ) or a little cantina there are scouts, who look for naive Colombianos and Gringos Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.Martin Luther King: 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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tejasmarcos says on Mar 25, 2008, 17:46: most of those young kids that hang out in the palmas area are not "connected". i think your amigos are doing the right thing in pursuing it. i would flip it around on those punks and atleast try to get the goods back. trying to walk a straight line on sour mash and cheap wine... 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Medellin Traveler says on Mar 25, 2008, 17:47: Paulr- Discover Medellin, Antioquia - Colombia www.medellintraveler.com 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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paulr says on Mar 25, 2008, 18:03: I don´t know his friend very well but he is huge, looks like a UFC fighter, true. You can´t protect yourself from this with muscle can ya? "paulr threatens me with death !" pobrecito 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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poco says on Mar 25, 2008, 18:05: Quote: He said he´s going back to look for them Colombian Chickens are crowing about the new President of the U.S. who will assure that From each according to their ability to each according to their need. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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paulr says on Mar 25, 2008, 18:21: To me, going back to look for them is a bit crazy but i´m sure he wont be going down to the club on his own, it will be to point the people out to the door staff or to the Police, maybe he said it because his pride is hurt and wants to do something immediately after the incident, i don´t know. "paulr threatens me with death !" pobrecito 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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durito says on Mar 25, 2008, 18:29: I wouldn't bring people I'd just met back to my apartment anywhere in the world.
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tejasmarcos says on Mar 25, 2008, 18:29: all you dudes should have a nice long talk with your porteros. get to know those guys. they could possibly intervene if a plan was put in place. trying to walk a straight line on sour mash and cheap wine... 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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durito says on Mar 25, 2008, 18:32: 10 Million pesos in value?
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Mike19 says on Mar 25, 2008, 18:41: I would try to find some burandaga and hire someone to have a drink at the bar and locate them and drug then and rob there nalgases.
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paulr says on Mar 25, 2008, 18:41: Get your mind out of the gutter Robi ha ha, yes he was, you know how a man looses a lot of sense when the blood rushes somewhere else? we´ve all been there. They were all in on it, he was kissing one of the girls. "paulr threatens me with death !" pobrecito 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Medellin Traveler says on Mar 25, 2008, 18:55: paulr, Discover Medellin, Antioquia - Colombia www.medellintraveler.com 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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durito says on Mar 25, 2008, 19:02: Are they sure they were drugged? How would the doctor even know.
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DodgerDogs says on Mar 25, 2008, 19:07: yo no creo es verdad. Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.Martin Luther King: 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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droble77 says on Mar 25, 2008, 19:09: Colombians are friendly and the vast majority mean no harm, but it's BAD policy to invite people you've just met back to your apartment, especially if you've met them in a night club. If it's another setting, and other people can vouch for them like a common friend, then maybe I would reconsider. I've had people over in an apartment I rented out, but these were people I already knew and we were coming back from a double date.
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paulr says on Mar 25, 2008, 19:10: No prob´s M T. "paulr threatens me with death !" pobrecito 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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DodgerDogs says on Mar 25, 2008, 19:12: Chi pecora si fa, il lupo se la mangia. Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.Martin Luther King: 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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durito says on Mar 25, 2008, 19:14: Well I've done that with just alcohol, but I used to be a bit of a lush. So, I suppose that does sound very suspicious.
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Medellin Traveler says on Mar 25, 2008, 19:14: These guys were just having a good time but forgot they were in Medellin.... they were obviously drugged, in any case. Discover Medellin, Antioquia - Colombia www.medellintraveler.com 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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DodgerDogs says on Mar 25, 2008, 19:16: Se non è vero, è ben trovato. Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.Martin Luther King: 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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pedro (☼Travelguide writer) says on Mar 25, 2008, 19:16: The exact same thing happened to a friend in Medellin. "this may seem a strange post but it is not...when in colombia men need to be aware that colombia women may try to be seductive and entice a travelling gringo to have sex with them..to be forewarned is to be forearmed..." -- pow wow 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Enrique187 says on Mar 25, 2008, 19:21: I hate this scopolamine shit. These stories freak me out knowing how many times it could have been used on me in the past. I guess am going to have to walk around with a gas mask now when I go to Medellin clubs.
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Enrique187 says on Mar 25, 2008, 19:28: That racket really is an easy money making operation. All you need is a hot girl as your front and you could probably easily get a new victim each night. It's no wonder it's becoming so common now.
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RAAAY says on Mar 25, 2008, 19:33: This is as common as milk in tea...........it happens every week-end night in every big city on the planet............It's not a Colombian thing, by any means........there is no planning needed, other than to spot a suitable mark...........I have personally been the recipent on three occasions......yes.........three........twice in New York..........once in Chicago............ .........Its useless to argue with ignorance 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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droble77 says on Mar 25, 2008, 19:36: C'mon guys, this is what love motels are for. If things are getting hot and heavy with a girl and you think you're going to get lucky, that's where you go, unless, once again, you met her through a friend or a friend can vouch that she's cool. And bringing more than one strange guy into an apt. after a long night of rumba should be bringing up warning bells.
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Medellin Traveler says on Mar 25, 2008, 19:45: Enrique, Discover Medellin, Antioquia - Colombia www.medellintraveler.com 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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paulr says on Mar 25, 2008, 19:45: I know this happens in most big cities but if you are caught doing this in England you are looking at a long stretch, i wonder what time you would get by getting caught doing it here? "paulr threatens me with death !" pobrecito 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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RAAAY says on Mar 25, 2008, 19:47: droble77 says...." My portero knows that when my guest leaves, I will accompany him/her downstairs " .........Its useless to argue with ignorance 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Enrique187 says on Mar 25, 2008, 19:53: does scopolamine only affect the victim if inhaled or orally? the cotton balls in the nose sounds like a decent idea although i dont know how long i could put up with that. maybe just in taxi rides, etc.
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Enrique187 says on Mar 25, 2008, 19:57: If someone is under the effects of scopolamine are there noticeable symptoms (like when one is very drunk, etc) ?
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tejasmarcos says on Mar 25, 2008, 19:59: cotton balls.... give me a break. trying to walk a straight line on sour mash and cheap wine... 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Medellin Traveler says on Mar 25, 2008, 20:00: Everything you want to know about Scopolamine but were afraid to ask...... Discover Medellin, Antioquia - Colombia www.medellintraveler.com 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Enrique187 says on Mar 25, 2008, 20:01: Saw that vid a while ago. Pretty disturbing. I wonder if there are more "underground" documentaries like that on Colombia.
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DodgerDogs says on Mar 25, 2008, 20:06: MT: You gonna get his dude killed a virgin ,if he walks around with cotton balls up his nose. Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.Martin Luther King: 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Enrique187 says on Mar 25, 2008, 20:09: jajajajaja. I'll color the cotton balls black so they're camouflaged.
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vladimiro says on Mar 25, 2008, 20:20: Most clubs in Las Palmas aren't open that late. In "La Isla" on the top of Las Palmas hill behind the casino is the only club that is open all night/morning that I know of, but its been a year since I've been there.
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poco says on Mar 25, 2008, 20:30: Quote: I can make assumptions about you also, Does poco indicate the size of your penis, your brain or subtleness? Colombian Chickens are crowing about the new President of the U.S. who will assure that From each according to their ability to each according to their need. 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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romy says on Mar 25, 2008, 20:30: Makes me think that on my last trip to Medellin we (with two friends) got into a car with two girls we met at Lleras. And they drove us up to Palmitas, but most of the time in the car I had no clue where we were as all of el poblado looked the same to me. We had drinks with them and then they drove us down to our hotel in Laureles, but it makes me think that anything could have happened. However, there's no way we would have gone with them if there were any guys we didn't know.
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RAAAY says on Mar 25, 2008, 20:33: " The Roofie Foundation, an organisation that provides advice about drug rape, reported a 34 per cent increase of this crime in the South West during the last year...... Rape, however, isn't the only motivation for drink spiking; it has also been used to target potential victims for theft and assault. ........ .........Its useless to argue with ignorance 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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DodgerDogs says on Mar 25, 2008, 20:42: The locals of MedellÃn, Colombia, joke that when God created the world, one of ... invoke so many local traditions and superstitions, no one had yet been able to ... Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.Martin Luther King: 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Medellin Traveler says on Mar 25, 2008, 20:50: The more you are aware of the dangers in Colombia, the better you are able to defend yourself from being another victim... unless you're drunk and the women are too HOT to resist!! Discover Medellin, Antioquia - Colombia www.medellintraveler.com 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Alma del Norte (☼Travelguide writer) says on Mar 25, 2008, 21:08: RAAAY - "This is as common as milk in tea...........it happens every week-end night in every big city on the planet............It's not a Colombian thing, by any means........there is no planning needed, other than to spot a suitable mark...........I have personally been the recipent on three occasions......yes.........three........twice in New York..........once in Chicago............ La vida es una rutina 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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RAAAY says on Mar 25, 2008, 21:14: Alma.........do an internet search on it..............it is extraordinarily common............more often than not, drink is spiked, the person is raped or robbed, the robbery victim wakes up the next day with no ill effects, other than a hangover.............no ambulance is required in most cases. You are not going to see these type of victims whilst working on an ambulance, generally speaking. .........Its useless to argue with ignorance 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Alma del Norte (☼Travelguide writer) says on Mar 25, 2008, 21:19: I think I would if it was prevelant in London. I'm just saying how little I've encountered even the rumour of it. I've seen a lot of spread-eagled and legless in my time - jaja! La vida es una rutina 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Alma del Norte (☼Travelguide writer) says on Mar 25, 2008, 21:20: ok, I'll have a look RAAAY. La vida es una rutina 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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RAAAY says on Mar 25, 2008, 21:39: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flunitrazepam. .........Its useless to argue with ignorance 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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RAAAY says on Mar 25, 2008, 21:42: Hong Con: Businessmen Robbed .........Its useless to argue with ignorance 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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RAAAY says on Mar 25, 2008, 21:46: . .........Its useless to argue with ignorance 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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RAAAY says on Mar 25, 2008, 21:48: . .........Its useless to argue with ignorance 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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RAAAY says on Mar 25, 2008, 21:51: Even us gullable Irish don't see it coming....... .........Its useless to argue with ignorance 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Alma del Norte (☼Travelguide writer) says on Mar 25, 2008, 21:55: ok ok ok!!!! From a UK perspective from your evidence, we are looking at 2000 per year, that means on average just less than 5.5 ocurrences per day. Spread that out over the UK, ok, I'll give you 3 for London. LAS gets something like 5000 calls a day, probably 1500 of those relate to alcohol in some way. Plus, the stuff you have referred to, (flunitrazepam and other "date rape" drugs), doesn't really refer to the point in question. I don't think it's like "milk in tea" in the UK, mate. La vida es una rutina 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Enrique187 says on Mar 25, 2008, 21:55: moral of the story. don't mess with prostitutes, no matter what part of the world.
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RAAAY says on Mar 25, 2008, 21:55: . .........Its useless to argue with ignorance 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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RAAAY says on Mar 25, 2008, 22:00: Alma says.............." I don't think it's like "milk in tea" in the UK, mate." .........Its useless to argue with ignorance 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Alma del Norte (☼Travelguide writer) says on Mar 25, 2008, 22:04: "every week-end night in every big city on the planet" La vida es una rutina 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Alma del Norte (☼Travelguide writer) says on Mar 25, 2008, 22:06: You edited!! Feckin' phenian ;) La vida es una rutina 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Alma del Norte (☼Travelguide writer) says on Mar 25, 2008, 22:07: fenian? La vida es una rutina 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Alma del Norte (☼Travelguide writer) says on Mar 25, 2008, 22:11: http://www.vbs.tv/video.php?id=1119242704 La vida es una rutina 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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RAAAY says on Mar 25, 2008, 22:17: Alma........my only point was that this is not limited to Medellin..........which some of the folks here seemed to think in the earlier comments............This is happening everywhere......and is very under reported. There is endless info on it. .........Its useless to argue with ignorance 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Alma del Norte (☼Travelguide writer) says on Mar 25, 2008, 22:18: ok RAAY. La vida es una rutina 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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RAAAY says on Mar 25, 2008, 22:19: Alma..........." You edited!! ".?? .........Its useless to argue with ignorance 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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RAAAY says on Mar 25, 2008, 22:21: Robi............yes.........it's the last thing you remember........ .........Its useless to argue with ignorance 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Alma del Norte (☼Travelguide writer) says on Mar 25, 2008, 22:22: "I did'nt edit anything" La vida es una rutina 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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RAAAY says on Mar 25, 2008, 22:25: Most people would think you should learn after the first time..................but this is so hard to see coming..............so easy to do..........when you are " out and about "...........having a few beers.....good times......meet a " nice " girl...............it's the last thing you would see coming.............. .........Its useless to argue with ignorance 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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miamimike says on Mar 25, 2008, 22:35: Alma del Norte says on Tuesday March 25th, 2008 21:08: Bésame, bésame mucho Como si fuera esta noche La última vez Bésame, bésame mucho Que tengo miedo a perderte Perderte después Bésame, bésame mucho Como si fuera esta noche La última vez Bésame, bésame mucho Que tengo miedo a perderte Perderte de 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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bickerss says on Mar 25, 2008, 22:36: Was this disco called Carnival? Investment Strategy - buying when others are crying!! Offloading when others are gloating!!! 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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RAAAY says on Mar 25, 2008, 22:40: Miamimike............give the Miami Beach cops a call 305- 673 7900...........they'll tell you how common it is.......... .........Its useless to argue with ignorance 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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RAAAY says on Mar 25, 2008, 22:48: Medo...............how many names have you remaining....?? .........Its useless to argue with ignorance 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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RAAAY says on Mar 25, 2008, 22:53: But you must have a few left........rumour has it you registered 25 before February. .........Its useless to argue with ignorance 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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RAAAY says on Mar 25, 2008, 23:03: JoeSmith99 says on Tuesday March 25th, 2008 22:45: .........Its useless to argue with ignorance 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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miamimike says on Mar 26, 2008, 00:30: Miamimike............give the Miami Beach cops a call 305- 673 7900...........they'll tell you how common it is.......... Bésame, bésame mucho Como si fuera esta noche La última vez Bésame, bésame mucho Que tengo miedo a perderte Perderte después Bésame, bésame mucho Como si fuera esta noche La última vez Bésame, bésame mucho Que tengo miedo a perderte Perderte de 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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droble77 says on Mar 26, 2008, 06:06: droble77 says...." My portero knows that when my guest leaves, I will accompany him/her downstairs "
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droble77 says on Mar 26, 2008, 06:31: Just one last thing: these after-hours joints tend to have more shady characters than the "mainstream" clubs. And the more techo played in the club, the more drugs around and I think the more chance of a fight taking place. I'll never forget the night in Barlovento some dude grabbed me from behind and threw me off my chair. I think he grabbed me to regain his own balance while fighting some other guy over a girl. Or maybe in his drunken/drugged confusion, he thought I was his enemy? And Barlovento is supposedly some hip place around the Lleras area. Anyway, I'm glad security checks everyone carefully before entering the place, he could have easily stabbed/shot me from behind as I was seated looking in the other direction, minding my own business, did not see that one coming!
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tejasmarcos says on Mar 26, 2008, 07:19: better a sedative than burundanga. scopalamine can be quite dangerous. trying to walk a straight line on sour mash and cheap wine... 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Albatross says on Mar 26, 2008, 08:14: Posts like this make me glad I'm anti-social “Democracy - a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H.L. Mencken 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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bickerss says on Mar 26, 2008, 08:34: any idea yet on what club it was? Carnival? Investment Strategy - buying when others are crying!! Offloading when others are gloating!!! 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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tejasmarcos says on Mar 26, 2008, 11:28: or palmitas? trying to walk a straight line on sour mash and cheap wine... 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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tejasmarcos says on Mar 26, 2008, 12:47: i'm willing to bet less than 20% of the occurences use burundanga - too risky, even for the perpetrator... trying to walk a straight line on sour mash and cheap wine... 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Mike19 says on Mar 26, 2008, 17:40: Does anyone know how many cases of these occurences happen a year? I know alot are probably not reported but it seems you really got to keep your guard up in Colombia? or anywhere else?
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RAAAY says on Mar 26, 2008, 18:34: No idea.............but it seems to be equally common everywhere......... .........Its useless to argue with ignorance 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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Catfish35 says on Mar 27, 2008, 06:27: SHIT ! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end." 0 funny, 0 helpful. |
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