A Good Egg or A Bad Egg

sandramoreno80 says on Apr 13, 2007, 11:20:

We don't have eggs in the supermarket fridges here in the UK either, they are on a normal shelf.

oldbongo says on Apr 13, 2007, 11:21:

your first mistake... is asking "why".

never ask why? in colombia.

secondly, fresh eggs are sold all over the world, unrefrigerated.
the explanation is turnover, first in, first out.

JMCana says on Apr 13, 2007, 11:24:

Chicken experts The most knowledgeable experts I have found are at www.earthshinefarm.com

The owners run their own organic farm, have served on numerous University ag committees, many articles written about them and they are frequent contributors to NPR. Plus they are just nice people who research the heck out of their stuff. Their web page has a contact tab. But be prepared they may tell you more than you want to know.

Oh yes, and their chickens are excellent.

kat1 (Moderator) says on Apr 13, 2007, 11:51:

the funny thing in Colombia is that although we sell the eggs in store unrefrigerated as soon as we get home we put them in the fridge :S

engage brain before opening mouth

oldbongo says on Apr 13, 2007, 12:08:

the funny thing in british colombia.. is,we buy them in the store refrigerated, and then
as soon as we come home,they go into a basket on the counter.
go figure.

kat1 (Moderator) says on Apr 13, 2007, 12:21:

you are confusing me my dear oldbongo

engage brain before opening mouth

oldbongo says on Apr 13, 2007, 12:30:

thats' my job.. first, you get the girl dizzy.
then, you crack the eggs and mix them up too,
then, you make la tortilla costena.
con picante y suero

kat1 (Moderator) says on Apr 13, 2007, 12:35:

that is why i like you

engage brain before opening mouth

miamimike says on Apr 13, 2007, 12:46:

Eggs may contain the Bacteria Salmonella and if left unrefrigerated at room temp this encourages bacterial growth. Trouble is, even in an uncracked Egg, you don't know which Egg may contain Salmonella as its prescence isn't visible.

USDA On Eggs: http://www.fsis.usda.gov/Fact_Sheets/Focus_On_Shell_Eggs/index.asp


Exerpt from above:

"Why Should Eggs Be Refrigerated?
Temperature fluctuation is critical to safety. With the concern about Salmonella, eggs gathered from laying hens should be refrigerated as soon as possible. After eggs are refrigerated, they need to stay that way. A cold egg left out at room temperature can sweat, facilitating the growth of bacteria. Refrigerated eggs should not be left out more than 2 hours."

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? ... That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.,

oldbongo says on Apr 13, 2007, 12:47:

you sure got a funny way of showing it... ain't it always the same..
she says she will, then she won't.
abrazos, besitos, fotos, ....nada.

if oldbongo wasn't so old and weak anyway, he'd send
porky over there to break up your little arrangement with elmo.

just for spite.

kat1 (Moderator) says on Apr 13, 2007, 12:49:

elmo who?
elmo who?

engage brain before opening mouth

oldbongo says on Apr 13, 2007, 13:11:

liar, liar!!!...mentira!!! you are shameless!!!!!!!

never trust a costena,...she will break your heart,
just as easy as cracking an egg.
...that is, until your old heart gets calcified, like oldbongos',
and becomes impervious to the charms on offfer.

kat1 (Moderator) says on Apr 13, 2007, 13:16:

I ma a charmed one :) I am a charmed one :)

engage brain before opening mouth

poco says on Apr 13, 2007, 13:57:

That's why a chicken ranch is necessary Refrigerated eggs should not be left out more than 2 hours.

How many Colombians get Salmonella ? How many die of it? Is initial refrigeration the cause? Is it blamed on Brujas? Can someone slip you a bad egg and collect your life insurance?

I kind of feel sorry for those who can't have a chicken ranch. Flirting death. I keep one happy rooster and one chicken per person.


Never turn your back on a cock.

"Violence is the first refuge of the incompetent" - Isaac Asimov

oldbongo says on Apr 13, 2007, 13:59:

sorry,...dear. oldbongo got so scared, he had to run to the kitchen and throw out all the salmonellaeggs that were rotting on the counter.
now he only has to work out the special charm required to teleport
his magnetissmo over the pond.
he's workin on it, but for now, he must return to la cocina to create
more magic for the hungry.
maybe, if he ever got to see the foto, he could fly,... like porky.
maybe, if ifs and buts were candies and nuts, everyday would be xmas.
....back to the bong...oldbongo.

miamimike says on Apr 13, 2007, 14:27:

Poco How many people get Salmonella or other types of Food/water borne illnesses caused by improperly stored Food or Water that hasn't been treated you ask? Storage/Refrigeration Recommendations on Eggs as well as the science behind it are pretty clear on that link I posted. Incidence of Infection; Hard to say as where would one find a study on the Numbers on Colombia? Personally speaking, I have had it 2 different times in Colombia since '95 and ended up on Antibiotics each time for it. And I consider myself careful as far as what I eat or drink,,,I suspect it happens a lot more then we think,,,Like one of my favorite actors Clint Eastwood once Uttered,,,"Do you feel Lucky Today",,,LOL

BTW, that protective coating on a freshly dropped egg is known as the "Cuticle" but has nothing to do with protecting an Egg from Salmonella(within),,,or prolonging its shelf life,,,

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? ... That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.,

Man Tequila says on Apr 13, 2007, 15:11:

Never thought about this much. Eggs can indeed contain Salmonella, and refrigeration would help bacterial growth. As a medical guy, I know the importance of keeping people from getting food poisoning. As a traveller, I know there is an immense amount of paranoia about food handling in North America and that people have been able to manage for thousands of years without refrigeration.

A quick google search reveals that eggs can be stored in a cold cellar for months. Eggs naturally have a cuticle, but even the USDA discusses procedures where eggs can be kept for months by adding an additional coating of lard or sodium silicate providing the eggs are coated while fresh, and none of the coated eggs has even the tiniest crack. Details are given here:
http://www.geocities.com/heartland/hills/9684/egg.html

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

ColombianoGringo says on Apr 13, 2007, 15:48:

Happens in the US as well I remember seeing a Dateline type show years ago about hygiene and refrigeration practices in US supermarkets. One of the main points of their undercover investigation related to eggs.

They had their reporters get stocking jobs at various supermarkets so they could secretly tape the general goings on. What they found was that many of the stores left eggs sitting in their store rooms for many days without refrigeration. So while you may buy eggs in the refrigerated section, they may not be as "fresh" as you might hope.

There are so many unhealthy practices in the production, transportation and sale of food that we can never be sure of the safety of the food we buy. While it is wise to be as careful as you can be, you can never eliminate the risk so there is little point in obsessing about it.

Peace
CG

miamimike says on Apr 13, 2007, 16:02:

Happens here in Miami all the time,,, Everyday well known and not so well Restaurants are getting nailed/cited for this same type of thing, not only Latin American Countries.. Its to the point I rarely eat out anymore and if I do its at a Kosher establishment where food Standards/cleanliness are much higher. I like Restaurants like Subway where I can visually observe the Food Prep Area as well as the fact that those Guys are wearing gloves who are preparing my Sandwich. If I don't like the appearence of what I see, I can leave....In reality, Miami Restaurants and Food handlers are some of the dirtiest and Unsanitary in the USA. And that goes for the South Beach Tourist area as well,,,

Man_Tequilla--Refrigeration would Help Retard Microbial/bacteria growth, not help it(unless you meant to retard growth),,,Those Cellars we used to refer to(here in the usa) as Fruit Cellars actually ARE a form of Refrigeration and have very stable cool(not cold)temperatures that Bacteria do not thrive in,,,Some Backwoods folks as well as campers(I do this myself) submerge my perishable like eggs, Milk,butter in ice cold mountain spring water to prevent spoilage and bacterial growth.

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? ... That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.,

Man Tequila says on Apr 13, 2007, 16:21:

I meant refrigeration would help bacterial growth from the perspective of the guy about to eat the egg, not the typhus growing inside the yolk.

In practical terms, bacterial growth in eggs is minimal below 7 degrees Celsius and increases with temperature -- the growth rate is more than 25 times higher at 42 degrees Celsius. This growth rate can be approximately mathematically by a modified Arrhenius equation where growth rate is proportional to b(T-T0)^2, and b and T0 are constants depending on the bacteria. A more detailled discussion for temperature versus Salmonella growth rates can be found here.

http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/pdf/10.1046/j.1365-2672.1998.00410.x

The conclusion is there is darn good reason to keep eggs below 7 degrees Celsius, or cooler rather than warmer, unless they are coated properly for protection.

Man Tequila, MD, B.Eng

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

utopiacowboy says on Apr 13, 2007, 16:41:

Anyone who thinks that you can leave eggs out indefinitely should try having a few laying hens roosting at large. You'll find eggs that have been out for months gone bad - there's a reason they refer to that "rotten egg" smell.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

miamimike says on Apr 13, 2007, 17:12:

Tequilla and UTC Agreed,,,I'll take my eggs refrigerated,,,LOL

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? ... That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.,

Robert Jorge says on Apr 13, 2007, 19:20:

My wife is astonished that eggs are refrigerated here in the US. When I lived in Colombia, I was astonished that eggs were NOT refrigerated. At least speaking for my wife's entire extended family and everybody else I ever met in Colombia (which was mainly just Villavo), they do not refrigerate eggs. Period. The eggs are left in a tray on or under the kitchen counter. My wife said eggs are not refrigerated in Colombia, because people think a refrigerated egg doesn't taste as good. Personally, I'll sacrifice a little flavor for a lower risk of sickness or death.

--"I believe in making the world safe for our children. But not for our children's children, because I don't think that children should be having sex." - Jack Handy

goin_south says on Apr 14, 2007, 00:50:

I think it is only because... those eggs don't last so long in colombia without CONsumption... So, no es problema. In America... they are a bunch of spoiled eggs... and they let their eggs sit .... howbeit, in de fridge.

y, un mil gracias.

Man Tequila says on Apr 14, 2007, 12:10:

Food handling is a valid public health concern, but like I said, also a source of LOTS of paranoia. If eggs are consumed within the first few days, probably not much of an issue. In Canada, when I buy eggs they may sit a month in the fridge before I use 'em (or longer if they pass the "float test"). In Toronto, Public Health won't let people sell any food on the street besides sausage, which is pretty ridiculous. I've eaten dicey street foods in dozens of countries, only time I got gastro was in Beijing.

But I'll keep my eggs in the fridge. A cold cellar would be as good.

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

Robert Jorge says on Apr 15, 2007, 00:43:

I "did as the Romans do", and ate eggs that were stored unrefrigerated for at least 2 weeks when I lived in Colombia. I felt wierd about it at first, but everybody else did it, so I went along. I never got sick.

The only time I had a gastro problem, was due to one of two things ... maybe both. One day, I ate maracuya for the first time. That same night, I ate street vendor, self packaged peanuts. Which-ever got me, I was in the bathroom the next day and for the next 4 days every 2 hours. I was scared to ever eat maracuya again ... but I have a feeling it was the street peanuts. The first two days produced the undigestable, black, spider egg seeds of the fruit. But the agony went on for 2 or 3 more days more at least. So it probably was the peanuts.

--"I believe in making the world safe for our children. But not for our children's children, because I don't think that children should be having sex." - Jack Handy

goin_south says on Apr 15, 2007, 11:51:

jorge, you just needed a lil pitaya to flush it all away ;)

Imagine...it's easy.

y, un mil gracias.

rocinante says on Apr 15, 2007, 14:08:

Good egg Here's the watered down verion o my abrasive post:

Eggs can last a over a month without being refrigerated as long as the shell is still on. Is anyone purchasing eggs without shells?

Most fresh food consuming countries purchase eggs "recently laid" and consume them waaay before that one month period - if they are without refrigeration. Places sell chicken at room temperature - how is this so? The chicken was killed when you ordered it - not sitting in a warehouse for three weeks.

Do you think in the US that everytime a hen lays an egg it is immediately removed from the nest and picked up by a refrigerated truck on a daily basis? Think about it.

Also in the south of the US (maryland etc...) butter is not usually refrigerated and can sit room teperature for weeks. Please realize that butter and eggs have been around much longer than electricity let alone ice boxes or electric refrigeration. Our cultures undoubtedly lead us to believe otherwise. Also realize that the eggs you buy in the US were laid longer ago than Elmo. This is not the case in Colombia (with eggs, not elmo).

The eggs in the store in South America are a week old and can remain unrefrigerated for a little over a month until they are consumed. In the US your eggs are a month old before they get to the store. Of course they neeeeeeeeed to be refrigerated if you want them to last. Also, read the expiration date of eggs in the US when you buy them. Go to a store today and read the EXP date without digging to the back. A lot longer than you'd expect, eh?

If, in South America, purchasing and consuming un-refrigerated eggs that are a week old were causing salmonella (using the subjunctive "were" in English, I am) the practice off egg handling and perceived shelf life would be altered.

They do some strange stuff in South America regarding the way food is handled but the masses are not dropping dead or contracting illnesses every 5 minutes as possters here would lead you to believe because of a few unrefrigerated eggs that came out of the heen four days ago.

"World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Peso 1400 by November" Feb 5, 2008

Man Tequila says on Apr 15, 2007, 15:35:

I didn't read ANY posts that said people were dropping dead every five minutes. Most folks acknowledged they ate unrefrigerated eggs and didn't get sick. Methods of keeping eggs safer were discussed without paranoia.

But on one hand, we have a nice little study showing how bacteria grow with temperature. On the other hand, we have your unproven assertions that eggs take a month to get to the store (refrigerated trucks only come twelve times a year?) in the US and only four days in Colombia. It's harder than you presume to prove outbreaks are due to Salmonella and not something else, and it is not a given food handling practices in South America would change if people were getting Salmonella from unrefrigerated eggs. More likely they'd blame something else -- say that the eggs always came from the hen three days ago and couldn't be responsible.

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

Robert Jorge says on Apr 15, 2007, 16:22:

There was an egg ... farm? - outside of my hometown in Indiana when I was growing up. I remember touring the "Cackle-house" on a field trip. At least then, the eggs were laid, and trucked out to area grocery stores within a day. I doubt things are much different now. Rocinante, what you said makes sense though - and besides questioning your eggs sitting for a month in the US before hitting the shelves of a grocery store theory, I would say you made excellent points. Again, with fear at first, I ate eggs that sat out for a couple of weeks in Colombia. Never had a hint of sickness. I just never knew what the deal was. Thanks for the info and explanation.

--"I believe in making the world safe for our children. But not for our children's children, because I don't think that children should be having sex." - Jack Handy

rocinante says on Apr 15, 2007, 18:24:

Butter Boy Let's get one thing straight. I'm an extrememly opinionated and
abrasive poster - love your handle, though.

Yes I "eggsagerate" with the dropping dead thing but to prove a
point. With vast refrigerated warehouses to hold food, and with
studies proving bacteria growth retarding when subjected to low
temperatures does not mean that eggs a week or two old that are
not refrigerated are going to cause salmonella. That's all I'm
saying. Just think Mayonaise - mostly raw eggwhites - sit un refrigerated for months and then gets sold and sits in your fridge for another 6 months. Where's the salonmella?


The OP should not be worried about unrefrigerated eggs in the supermarkets in Latin America because the eggs go from hens ass to market in under a week and are consumed quickly.

You are right - If you grab an egg from a hen and refrigerate it immediately it can last for almost 3 months. If you don't refrigerate for the first week and the eggs is purchased, and refrigerated at home (the general practice in Colombia) and it's consumed shortly thereafter - no habré problema.

Does refrigeration increase shelf life - absolutely.

Why do we refrigerate eggs in the US no questions asked? I'm glad you asked. Corporations want more regulations to guarantee that the food chain is perceived as secure. These corps sell to millions of clients all over the planet, not just a small, local community as is the case in Colombia. En pocas palabras any health scare, real or perceived, costs these US companies millions in lost sales.

Of course it's common practice to fridge eggs because we get strong messages from industry that is it considered "the safe thing to do to ensure freshness". Eggs are shipped to many distribution centers before they are delivered to grocery stores, thus lengthening their storage time. The definition of farm fresh here in the US increased from a matter of a day or two (Like in Colombia) to a week or two or more before it goes to the shelf in your local super market. So refrigeration from the offset until the time of consumption is importaint given the length of the distribution process. Corporations, not farmers, who control the production, storage, marketing, distribution and sales of eggs, are sensitive to anything that might suggest that that eggs may be contaminated.

Lastly short shelf life=waste. Ask any restaurant owner who throws food out at the end of a slow or improperly calculated day of business. Refrigerated eggs or anything that lasts longer means less waste and less volatility in projecting "resource planning".

I buy Papaya in the US from .99lb to 1.99lb+ all in the same week depending on the supply in that grocery at that given time. Papaya has a really short shelf life.

Also I don't know if the Latin American countries selling warm eggs (parts of Europe too) are washing them but there is an antibiotic coating on the eggs when they come out.

"World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Peso 1400 by November" Feb 5, 2008

Man Tequila says on Apr 15, 2007, 18:41:

I am also opinionated and abrasive. It ruffles the feathers by times but is better than having no opinion, or worse, aggreeing with everybody else's.

I don't disagree with of your ideas, though you exaggerate for effect. But most of the people who posted to this thread don't disagree with your ideas either, and in fact said much the same thing. Plus que change, and no one's established whether there really is a coating or not (though if consumed within days, it doesn't matter).

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

rocinante says on Apr 15, 2007, 19:54:

OK we agree to agree. I'm out of breath. If one believes eggs must be refrigerated that's cool(pun intended). Because of the distribution process in the US, eggs should be refrigerated to ensure a longer shelf life. In Latin America and Europe this distribution and consumption process is quicker so, they can get away without having to refrigerate. The same USDA gov't agency that says refrigerated eggs should not be unrefrigerated for more than 2 hours is the same agency that allows cows to be shot up with steriods to produce more milk and then combat the ensuing infections experienced by the cows with antibiotics.

In Spain unrefrigerated eggs sit out in 90 degree temps for days. Go figure.

The antiboitic coating on the eggs when laid are to protect the egg as the egg is literally passed through the rectum of the hen.

I'm soooooo egged out right now.

"World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Peso 1400 by November" Feb 5, 2008

goin_south says on Apr 15, 2007, 21:49:

While some may say you both are eggheads... It seems to me, you are both EGGSPERTS.

Imagine...it's easy.

y, un mil gracias.

utopiacowboy says on Apr 15, 2007, 22:01:

When I had laying hens I used to get them pretty much fresh from the hens' ass. I still put them in the fridge. Hell I used to have people buy my eggs who didn't like how bright the yolks were - they preferred the drab yellow of the commercial eggs. Go figure.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

Man Tequila says on Apr 15, 2007, 22:19:

Or at least eggscentric.
Or at least eggscentric.

Aunque no me creas/ si me lo propongo/ lograre olvidarte/ porque a fin de cuentas/ no soy tan cobarde./ Y termino todo una de estas tardes/ no sera dificil buscar algún sitio donde refugiarme/ donde nunca mas vuelvas a encontrarme. (Polo Montañez)

Robert Jorge says on Apr 15, 2007, 23:51:

Wow, I learned something new again. I had no idea eggs came out of a chicken's rectum. I assumed it was a vaginal birth. So the egg is formed in the same place chicken shit comes from? Or is the ass pipe just a "port of exit," with the egg being developed somewhere else in the hen? I guess all poultry could be literally referred to as, "asshole babies."

--"I believe in making the world safe for our children. But not for our children's children, because I don't think that children should be having sex." - Jack Handy

goin_south says on Apr 15, 2007, 23:54:

no comment; I'll get deleted.
Again.

Imagine...it's easy.

y, un mil gracias.

goin_south says on Apr 15, 2007, 23:56:

And, I'm thinkin Desideria-Delete is working like Three Strikes and Your OUT!

Imagine...it's easy.

y, un mil gracias.

Robert Jorge says on Apr 16, 2007, 06:42:

You might be on to something el feliz.

--"I believe in making the world safe for our children. But not for our children's children, because I don't think that children should be having sex." - Jack Handy

nick b. says on Apr 16, 2007, 07:09:

Salmonella ..that protective coating on a freshly dropped egg is known as the "Cuticle" but has nothing to do with protecting an Egg from Salmonella(within),,, There is still samonella on the shell,if you use raw eggs (tiramisu etc..) and cook for several older people,wash youre hands,work with a temper.below 4 celsius !!

miamimike says on Apr 16, 2007, 08:17:

That protective coating known as the Cuticle was mentioned several posts back,(around 17 posts back). I'll stick to USDA Guidelines and their science behind the refrigeration of Eggs. As they say, Salmomella can be present in an Uncracked Egg and heat will only hasten the growth process of Salmonella if its already present and left in a warm enviroment. I guess I never should have taken those pre-Med Microbiology courses, maybe one is better off NOT knowing at times,,,LOL

An example-my Dad's grandmother swore as a Treatment for a Bee sting the best Home remedy was placing Cold Mud immediately on the sting. While this helped it could also introduce bacteria into the sting, worseing the problem, howvever that never happened it always helped, especially when Gramma did it! LOL The upside was within the mud was a beneficial bacteria that helped alleviate the painful effects of the sting. It worked! It works!

"Wait a minute. What did you just say? You're predicting $4-a-gallon gas? ... That's interesting. I hadn't heard that." -- Feb. 28, 2008 --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C.,

Desideria (Moderator) says on Apr 16, 2007, 08:56:

We refrigerate our eggs in Scandinavia. Unwashed eggs can be stored in a cool storage room for weeks and nothing happens to them, but as soon as you wash them they'll have to be refrigerated. Since nobody buys shitty-looking eggs they are always washed when sold to the stores. This means that ALL SUPERMARKET BOUGHT EGGS SHOULD BE REFRIGERATED, here there and in between. My friends in Cali keep their eggs on the kitchen counter. I put them in the fridge.

Cheers,
Desi

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe
they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

"I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them."-President George W. Bush

esanch36 says on Apr 16, 2007, 09:02:

I like to keep my eggs in my pants esanch36

All right, I'll ask: How come it took three seconds to euthanize Eight Belles, but the Womens NBA is starting Year 12???

nick b. says on Apr 16, 2007, 10:44:

hehe, if you use youre eggs above 67 (c.) degrees you wil be ok.

Lostgringo says on Apr 16, 2007, 11:40:

Eggs in Colombia Ok now that we arr talking about eggs and how fresh they are how can you tell? I was always told that if the egg white is runny the egg is not fresh. I am sure about the color of the yolk. What I am sure about is that these eggs are damn hard to turn over without breaking the yolk! I bought some very large eggs this week. The shell is large but the yolk is basically the same. Lots and lots of egg white! When I crack one open the egg white goes all over the place like it was water. I am thinking the eggs are old. But all the eggs I have bought so far are the same. I just can't seem to turn these puppies over without having scrambled eggs lol.


welovebogota.com "Luxury Apartment and rooms at reasonable prices"

Your Home Away from Home:http://www.welovebogota.com http://www.apartmentinbogota.com "Luxury apartment and rooms Cheap" Only 2 blocks from the American Embassy!

esanch36 says on Apr 16, 2007, 11:44:

Mannnn i could so have fun with this convo... but i just wont go there...Ill try and be a respectable PHB blogger today.

All right, I'll ask: How come it took three seconds to euthanize Eight Belles, but the Womens NBA is starting Year 12???

esanch36 says on Apr 16, 2007, 11:44:

PBH esanch36

All right, I'll ask: How come it took three seconds to euthanize Eight Belles, but the Womens NBA is starting Year 12???

goin_south says on Apr 16, 2007, 13:12:

good choice, esanch, You don't want to be 'caught, looking'...at strike 3!

...it's easy, if you try.

y, un mil gracias.

nick b. says on Apr 16, 2007, 13:33:

explain:don't want to be 'caught, looking'...at strike 3 etc.. I only understand sports like football(soccer).. and my English is probably as bad as you're Chinese.

esanch36 says on Apr 16, 2007, 13:39:

what were my other 2 strikes?

All right, I'll ask: How come it took three seconds to euthanize Eight Belles, but the Womens NBA is starting Year 12???

nick b. says on Apr 16, 2007, 13:44:

??...right .

morphus says on Apr 16, 2007, 13:46:

I'm scared of eggs in Colombia. I saw and smelled a rotten egg in Colombia for the first time in my life. It was a very traumatic experience for me. I'll never eat eggs in Colombia again. In the U.S. I only eat the white part anyway.

nick b. says on Apr 16, 2007, 13:58:

I am going to print this page for my colleages .

Colombiano_81 says on Apr 16, 2007, 14:01:

here is Spain they dont refrigerate milk or eggs in the grocery store or at home ( the milk).