A Couple of Discrepancies

Atrevido (☼Travelguide writer) says on Apr 17, 2009, 13:30:

(2) Check www.paislibre.org although I think their statistics only go to 2008.

https://sites.google.com/site/colombianaturesite/nature-images

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billyb says on Apr 17, 2009, 14:37:

They should put Reyes' head on a spike on the road from El Dorado into town.

"All I want to know is where I'm going to die, so I never go there" Unkown (at least to me) wise man.

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Apr 17, 2009, 14:55:

That's what they did with their enemies in the Medieval times. Ya se porque el pueblo no progresa.

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ColombianoGringo (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Apr 17, 2009, 15:12:

Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Apr 17, 2009, 15:16:

and the barbarie in Colombia will perpetuate itself...

That hasn't been efective, ever, in Colombia. It's just more of the same.

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utopiacowboy says on Apr 17, 2009, 16:02:

There are still a huge number of secuestrados. Just today in El Meridiano de Sucre (Sincelejo) there was an item about a man's son who was just released after 11 years of captivity by the FARC.

Disclaimer: any comment I make is inane and is not to be taken seriously, and is so patently ridiculous that no one should take it seriously, even as an insult.

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billyb says on Apr 17, 2009, 17:44:

"That hasn't been efective, ever, in Colombia."

The Romans and Brits seemed to think it worked, and if I am not mistaken, both had not insubstantial empires. What we know for a fact doesn't work is appeasing them, just ask Pastrana.

"All I want to know is where I'm going to die, so I never go there" Unkown (at least to me) wise man.

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La_Huella says on Apr 17, 2009, 23:14:

I vote for giving what's left of Reyes to the dogs to munch on. He doesn't deserve ANY respect. I hope his family suffers too! Fuck them all!

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billyb says on Apr 17, 2009, 23:25:

"What happened to the body of Raul Reyes? have the Colombian military personnel sunken to such depths of barbarism'

I would tend to reserve my outrage for the suffering of his INNOCENT victims, but that is just me. I, seemingly unlike you, can't generate any sympathy for a murderous scum like Reyes, but again, that it is just me.

"All I want to know is where I'm going to die, so I never go there" Unkown (at least to me) wise man.

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Apr 18, 2009, 02:12:

I have no sympathy for Raul Reyes. It's just a question of common decency. I save my sympathy for the living, not for the dead for they are beyond feeling our hate or our love. But even a guerrillero has a family.

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dwmte7 says on Apr 18, 2009, 05:29:

a 100% aside..................years back, when the cia assissinated che gueverra in bolivia, they cut off one of his hands and sent to castro as 'proof' of his death. castro's response was along the lines that a hand is by no means proof that che is dead. sooooooo, the cia cut off his head and sent that to castro.....asking, 'does that provide proof that he's dead?'

well some 6 or 8 years ago gueverras remains were finally sent from bolivia to cuba to be reuined to the rest of his body so he could be buried with 'dignity'.....as if there's some dignity after all that.

patriarch

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Rikito says on Apr 18, 2009, 05:35:

I beleive I read this in Colombia Reports or some other news source. The body of Raul Reyes was given to his immediate family for burial in a secret place. Some of the family says this is not true that the government has never turned the body over to the family, but he wife and children have a different story and have said that the 'rest' of the family have purposely been kept out of the picture. Understandable.

And why would the military want the body anyway? By now he is well on his way as worm food and any kind of credible autopsy would probably not be allowed and would not show much anyway.

...and so it goes

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dwmte7 says on Apr 18, 2009, 05:45:

los muertos no hablan........................

patriarch

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Rikito says on Apr 18, 2009, 05:54:

Desi...I was mistaken on this. See the articel in Colombia Reports: http://colombiareports.com/colombia-news/news/3640-authorities-admit-h.... The authorities admit having buried 'Raúl Reyes' but keptthe location secret for safety reasons. Also read this article regarding the relatives: Relatives 'Raul Reyes' say they never received his body http://www.colombiareports.com/colombia-news/news/3442-relatives-raul-...
Finally here is an article in Semana.com about the body: http://www.semana.com/noticias-print-edition/where-is-raul-reyes-body/...

...and so it goes

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Apr 18, 2009, 06:37:

Thanks, rikito. I believe it is true that the body was buried in secrecy without informing the relatives. What a bunch of liers, Santos and the other government people,they should have told the family right away and made it public that the location cannot be revealed.

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Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on Apr 18, 2009, 07:18:

dwmte7 says on Apr 18, 2009, 07:19:

some how, maarit, "should haves", "would haves" and "could haves" don't really apply to government figures. convenience is what drives their tongues. you can always tell when they're lying....their lips move.

patriarch

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Apr 18, 2009, 09:38:

Darloup, that line of reasoning does not work for me. The guerrillero is buried, rotting in the grave, with all his guilt and obligations towards people living and people dead. His family should not have to pay the price.

Douglas, you remind me of my brother, the army guy. That's what he says of some people....how do I know he's lying...his lips are moving". Sounds like a line from Bill Cosby show or perhaps Archie Bunker.

Sapito, thanks for the link.

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Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on Apr 18, 2009, 09:53:

dwmte7 says on Apr 18, 2009, 10:10:

darloup....the worst of men feel guilt. they just avoid facing it by continuing their henious actions. thus compounding their day of reconing and the price they will certainly pay. (karma)

patriarch

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Apr 18, 2009, 10:15:

I didn't mean it that way, Darloup. Whether he FELT guilty or not, he WAS guilty for many deaths. perhaps I should've used another word instead. What I'm trying to get across here is that he's beyond any punishment for his crimes now.

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Darloup (☼Travelguide writer) says on Apr 18, 2009, 10:18:

dwmte7 says on Apr 18, 2009, 10:20:

brother....i'm still, twenty years later, trying to digest the fact that i was envited to lunch at a family of sicarios before i knew what sicarios are.

patriarch

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