2 Years Later .. We finally Made it!

dwmte7 says on Jun 15, 2008, 14:30:

happy trails, friend, may the sun always be at your back and your feet always tread solid ground. good luck

dwmte

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angelitabogota says on Jun 15, 2008, 16:09:

Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!!! God bless you two.

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Gator says on Jun 15, 2008, 18:14:

Way to go-it just takes patience

"Credidi pretio parvo emere et magno vendere tibi in animo fuisse!" .

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dwmte7 says on Jun 16, 2008, 06:19:

yo gator, you're my favorite 'wal-mart' greeter.

dwmte

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chester says on Jun 16, 2008, 09:03:

i suggest you try to be there for the interview

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elmodefoque says on Jun 16, 2008, 09:18:

warning!!!
for those gringos about to import their colombianas to usa, please keep them away from nyc, they will leave your ass in a heartbeat. keep them hidden away in small town usa, canada and europe.
yesterday i had dinner uptown in one of those "fancy" dominican restaurants and parked outside waiting for the free valet parking were a bunch of expensive 70 thousand dollar cars, beamers, benzes, escalades driven by young muscular rich dominicanos.
una colombiana ve eso and forggeitaboutit, adios gringo and thanks for the ticket to USA

any colombianita willing to date me, IS UP TO NO GOOD

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elmodefoque says on Jun 16, 2008, 09:21:

i asked the modefoque parking cars, "hey mama nema! where the fok do you park these cars?
"in the fokin street, we go around looking for a parkin too, we aint got no garage" he said.
Then i says, "why the fok should i give you a 10 dollar tip while i could easily look for parking too?"

any colombianita willing to date me, IS UP TO NO GOOD

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roloenNJ says on Jun 16, 2008, 10:03:

I think that if you know your girl and you honestly believe that she is the right one for you than you dont have anything to be afraid of. If she is going to leave you as soon as she gets to the states? ohh well at least you gave you best in the relationship and tried something too many people are afraid on doing. It is true that the mayority of colombianas that I have know leave their Husband after the two years, but not all Colombianas are the same and you may had found the exception. Good luck

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morphus says on Jun 16, 2008, 10:07:

I know a guy that married a prepago. They have been together for 5 years. Of course he is now a couple of hundred thousand lighter and is currently using his home as an ATM....LOL

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angelitabogota says on Jun 16, 2008, 14:09:

Kkemerait do not get discouraged, not all the colombian girls are interested in getting married with a gringo to get the visa. There are still good people. In my case, I am going to marry an american who is going to move to Bogota with me. And he is not rich. In fact I will support him economically while he gets a job here. I am sure there are many good women in Colombia. Good luck.

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elmodefoque says on Jun 16, 2008, 14:25:

angelita, mi amor, how about supporting my unemployed black colombian ass.
i'll even move to fokin bogota with ya

any colombianita willing to date me, IS UP TO NO GOOD

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elmodefoque says on Jun 16, 2008, 14:28:

que jodona, outta 25 million umemployed colombianos, pasando hambre, you have to help a gringo , what the hell is wrong with us???
y tan bonita que eres

any colombianita willing to date me, IS UP TO NO GOOD

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elmodefoque says on Jun 16, 2008, 14:33:

are there any colombianas on this site that would even consider dating a colombiano?

any colombianita willing to date me, IS UP TO NO GOOD

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rocinante says on Jun 16, 2008, 14:49:

"Kkemerait do not get discouraged, not all the colombian girls are interested in getting married with a gringo to get the visa."

Yes some of them are just desperate with kids and have little chance of getting married in Colombia. These are different than the ones that just want the visa. Let's keep that straight. But remember one thing these two have in common - neither of them would give you the time of day if they were well off financially and weren't struggling to feed the kids.

All you guys with the mail order internet brides - stick you and the wife in a time machine to the time before she had her first kid but the year is still 2008. Does she immediately decide upon exiting the time machine to entertain propositions from foreign men (internet or live) in order to marry and move to another country away from her family to a guy who doesn't speak her language and share her culture? if yes then howabout if she magically gets a high paying job and her family bumps into estrato 5?

Who wants a beer?

"World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Peso 1400 by November" Feb 5, 2008

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dwmte7 says on Jun 16, 2008, 15:14:

lets give the colombian ladies their true, due....they are a marvelous, incredible lot. i'm not speaking of the well to do and the city slickers and the bar flies and sex pots. i'm talking about the woman who nurse and nurture colombia as she is. the real women who raise the children, keep the homes, suffer in hard times and keep their chin up and their honor higher.

colombia is the heart land of fine, honorable women. just because a woman marries a foreigner with other than deep heart felt emotions...especially when she already has children. does it make her 'low' or 'less' or 'cheap' because she compromises herself in some measure to provide for her children from someone who didn'[t. is she a sell out because she puts others before herself. even if she uses her fortune to help her family? try and be fair when we 'judge' these people. so many have live lives harder than any of us can remotely imagine.

honoring them and respecting them is the nourishment they need. give it to them. they have earned it. and you will surely discover in the majority of cases, you will be repaid thousand fold.

dwmte

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rocinante says on Jun 16, 2008, 15:25:

The women of Colombia run the country - it's just really tough when they are living abroad.

"just because a woman marries a foreigner with other than deep heart felt emotions...especially when she already has children. does it make her 'low' or 'less' or 'cheap' because she compromises herself in some measure to provide for her children from someone who didn'[t. is she a sell out because she puts others before herself. even if she uses her fortune to help her family? try and be fair when we 'judge' these people."

Nothing wrong with these women nor the marriage - this woman however is not my type - but there is nothing wrong with her that's for sure. Let's just call a spade a spade - the woman is settling and sacrificing and going with a choice she would not be making had things been different financially.

If you are a man out there in a relationship and you hit the lottery for 40 million clear and you trade in your honey for a better 'model' (pun intended) than you are the same.

For the woman I'm with and who is with me, financial ruin or giant windfall changes little for each of us. We are together by choice - first choice - not out of necessity. JMHO

"World economic indicators point to a democrat winning 2008. It will surely be Obama. Peso 1400 by November" Feb 5, 2008

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dwmte7 says on Jun 16, 2008, 15:36:

clearly understand your point....i just like to see those who make sacrifices in their lives for the benifit of others recieve some measure of respect...not ridicule. granted, some abuse their choices. of course they do. but we should keep the real numbers in perspective.

if the woman had other financial options she would undoubtedly exercise them. however if she's willing to devote herself into a relationship for the benefit of others (as well herself) this does not disqualify her as an honorable person...only she can do that.

dwmte

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elmodefoque says on Jun 16, 2008, 15:48:

TOTALLY AGREE WITH ROCI, LETS CALL A SPADE A SPADE
had i been a modefoque driving a moto taxi for a living would i have a 20 years younger than me wife from el poblado medellin, or a 24 year old (30 years younger than me) from barranquilla calling me mi fokin amorcito or a 33 year old succesfull broad in cartagena? HELL NOOOOOOOO
am i specially handsome guy? hell nooooo
do i have a sense of humor? yes, but only when i have my prozac with beer
can i dance? yes, but only after my prozac and beer
am i hung like a adult burro? hell nooo , a baby burro, yes
am i young? hell noooo
so why are these broads into me???
you tell me

any colombianita willing to date me, IS UP TO NO GOOD

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pedro says on Jun 16, 2008, 15:52:

Elmo, never mind that, get your ass over to the "ADVISE ON LIVING AND BUYING A HOUSE IN CALI COLOMBIA" thread

que nota!

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Joel y Luza says on Jun 16, 2008, 20:31:

Elmo- you have to be one of my favorite commentators, and posters-- too damned funny!!!

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angelitabogota says on Jun 16, 2008, 21:14:

I totally agree with Joel y Luza, Elmo is the funniest poster here ;)

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Cerealkiller says on Jun 17, 2008, 01:41:

"lets give the colombian ladies their true, due....they are a marvelous, incredible lot. i'm not speaking of the well to do and the city slickers and the bar flies and sex pots. i'm talking about the woman who nurse and nurture colombia as she is. the real women who raise the children, keep the homes, suffer in hard times and keep their chin up and their honor higher."

Douglas, why give credit to only those who were put in a less privileged position? I believe every women out there has a soft spot for being loved and feeling protected. City slickers and bar flies are only more demanding and not in a particularly negative way... Why would anyone date somebody because they know they are needed rather than wanted? As Roci put it, often a poor woman or a single mother with very little disposable income will reach out for a gringo out of pure need or greed...that is a very fine line.

I am not a man, so I cannot claim to know all the answers when it comes to the male mind (which some claim is actually quite binary and simple), but if I could change my sex for a second and choose a woman with the intention of spending the rest of my life with her (that is if people these days tie the knot hoping it'll be forever), I'd choose the city slicker over the "real woman" in a heartbeat. First of all because I want to be wanted as a person, not as an expense account. Second, because men are weak creatures as well, why would I waste my time with someone I have to support economically, wait until she learns a new language and deal with her frustrations? and what if she struggles with the whole adapting thing all the freaking time? What about my needs as a man? what about me feeling frustrated? Having a rough patch? trust me, a girl who is not used to being out there will have TONS of more trouble adapting to any environment that is not her own than an urban, professional woman and if she has kids, you will certainly not be her priority. So why bother?

Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives -John Stuart Mill

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dwmte7 says on Jun 17, 2008, 04:29:

point well taken, CK...i made the point for good reason....not that i in anyway exclude the mentioned from the women in need of serious, honest respect and support.

the rich, have their own safety and after 19 years in colombia, it has consistantly been my experience that they isolate and alienate themselves fromt the realities so many, many colombian women address. as for my rather scurolous comments labeling women sex-pots and bar flies. again, these sad ladies have made choices which put them at risk/prey to a life which shows little hope of redemption. we can all walk with others, we cannot walk for them.

personally, i extend a compassionate arm, heart to all.

dwmte

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houstongal says on Jun 17, 2008, 04:45:

CK - Your response is what a man would do if he had the brain of a woman. I think your questions are what every guy should be asking himself before getting involved. I'm sure we all could add to your list. Good job!

Bottom line is that the guy would have to be EXTREMELY patient, understanding (put yourself in her shoes), and self-sacrificing in order to make this work.

"It is now official: there's no place on earth where you will not find a Peruvian band." David Sedaris

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Robert Jorge says on Jun 17, 2008, 08:45:

Thanks for the compliments Houstongal. I am blushing.

--"I believe in making the world safe for our children. But not for our children's children, because I don't think that children should be having sex." - Jack Handy

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romy says on Jun 17, 2008, 09:07:

I actually do go for the "city slicker" not the "bar flies" though... I guess it depends on how it's being defined. anyways I don't want another 'tool for the shed' sort of speak. why would I get married then? If I'm actually going to spend that much time with someone, she better be a more rounded individual.

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houstongal says on Jun 17, 2008, 10:38:

Well RJ, I commend you. I'm sure you will be rewarded for your efforts.

"It is now official: there's no place on earth where you will not find a Peruvian band." David Sedaris

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dwmte7 says on Jun 17, 2008, 13:20:

"another tool for the shed", eh? haven't heard that one.

i come from sod bustin stock out of western oklahoma and the pan handle in texas...they all migrated to california after/during the depression. one of my elders used to say, "...if it's got pudendem (not necessarily in those words) or wheels, ya gonna have problems." thus he.

dwmte

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goin_south says on Jun 17, 2008, 17:13:

....'and keep their honor HIGHER'....jejjeje
(than their chin? jejja... they're a short bunch;-))

Ciao! Gustav. Bienvenitos, Ike.

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truthspeaker says on Jun 17, 2008, 21:01:

"2 Years Later .. We finally Made it!"

No, this is just the beginning...

Remember, I can only tell the truth. No more Sex Tourism in Colombia.

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goin_south says on Jun 17, 2008, 22:20:

yeah, Buena Suerte, kk!

Ciao! Gustav. Bienvenitos, Ike.

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dwmte7 says on Jun 18, 2008, 06:47:

ok, southbound....i'm just a cureless old romantic...i thought it sounded nice. what can i say?

dwmte

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jinksmiester says on Jun 19, 2008, 08:57:

All the best to you both...and don,t worry about any nay sayers....i followed the same path a few years ago and am happilly married to a beautiful colombiana and we are both very happy.Its sad some relationships don,t work out but don,t let the nay sayers rain on your parade.

A man is not old until regret takes the place of dreams

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kkemerait says on Jun 19, 2008, 16:10:

Someone must have confused my post with another .. not discouraged at all!! My wife will be here in August and I couldn't be happier!! I am 54 years old and was married previously for 13 years and have 3 kids. Met my current wife (from Colombia) on Yahoo, she is the most incredibly wonderful, sensitive, loving and generous person on the planet. I am the luckiest man alive.

Best of luck all!

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