1.00 USD = 1,792.11 COP

DodgerDogs says on Apr 9, 2008, 09:10:

How much lower ?

Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.Martin Luther King:

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Simon says on Apr 9, 2008, 09:53:

Way to go Peso!!!

"Just an honest, decent Colombian trying to do the right thing."--Simon

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Ctg Bound says on Apr 9, 2008, 10:27:

rocinante,

I just noticed your tag line.

Do you mean "Peso 1400 by November" Feb 5, 2009".....?

Its a simple question, nothing more, don't read things into that aren't there, like certain other members of this site.

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elk says on Apr 9, 2008, 10:42:

We may be looking back at the 1,800 COP to the dollar exchange rate as the "good old days".
I will start looking for another place to live when and if it reaches 1,000 COP to the dollar. The current exchange rate of 1,800 still provides a better standard of living compared to Costa Rica or Boquete, Panama.

Medellin: (at the current exchange rate of 1,800 COP)

Nice three bedroom apartment $511 USD
Breakfast this morning $2.75 (eggs, beans and rice with arepa..including coffee)
Broadband internet $15.00 (with a download speed of 4,500 to 5,500 Kbps with private company)
Utilities per month $55.00 USD
Telephone and cable television with premium channels $52.00
Administration fee of $65.00

I admit prices were even better at 2,600 COP when I arrived, but Medellin is still a bargain.

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Ctg Bound says on Apr 9, 2008, 10:50:

elk,

It will take a long while to reach 1,000 pesos to the dollar, it at all, I don't think it will in this cycle, or get anywhere near it.

If it does get there in this cycle the US is in seriouse trouble and prices in Panama and Costa Rica might well be very differant then.

Your broadband costs are a special deal and most people are not going to get, a more realsitic figure in general for broadband is three times the amount.

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elk says on Apr 9, 2008, 11:01:

Your correct Ctg Bound, my internet broadband connection is a deal. I understand they will be selling the same service to others not living in my particular Torre. (At least that is the plan)

I agree the exchange rate may never reach the 1,000 COP mark which means I'm not likely to leave Medellin. (sorry)

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Ctg Bound says on Apr 9, 2008, 11:08:

elk,

No need to be sorry, I rarely see your ugly ass anyway as you never seem to leave your apt anymore...!

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wendell13 says on Apr 9, 2008, 11:43:

You really should look at the banco de republica site for accurate information on exchange rates and inflation rates. It goes back to 1954 with monthly data

I wouldn't say that Colombia has a low low low inflation rate

Go to the site for accurate information

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nine inch nails says on Apr 9, 2008, 12:19:

Is because the price of oil rocketed up to $112/barril for FIRST TIME EVER today and when the price of oil goes up so does the dollar and consequently its' value versus the COP and most other world currencies.

Now we got the LFL so who needs to watch the NFL?

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Saltador says on Apr 9, 2008, 13:29:

Dollar fighting back this afternoon:
eltiempo.com=1812
bancoderepublica=1812
bloomberg=1799
xe.com=1796

I'm sure whichever is the lowest is the most accurate. At least on PBH.

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Waterdawg says on Apr 9, 2008, 14:56:

I must be the only one on this board that will state that if the Peso drops down to 1000 , Colombia is Toast !

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DodgerDogs says on Apr 9, 2008, 15:10:

Obama is too much like Jimmy Carter , if he Obama wins then watch the dollar drop even further.
Israel is scared Obama might win , and the Arabs are praying he does.

http://israelmatzav.blogspot.com/2008/01/barack-obama-black-jimmy-cart...

http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2008/04/03/1408655-carter-hints-at-suppo...

Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.Martin Luther King:

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DodgerDogs says on Apr 9, 2008, 15:46:

i say do what cheney is doing. ?????

Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.Martin Luther King:

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lampltr says on Apr 9, 2008, 15:55:

Shit, talk about crying guys...being on a contract (Pd in USD) in Europe and paying out normal expenses, and my friends desire me to visit them in the U.K. jaja, the euro is bad enough...I am getting close to eating rice and ramien noodles. I too am happy to have invested in CO before hand.

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Saltador says on Apr 9, 2008, 16:38:

Be careful with gold. Historically, as an asset class, gold sucks bigtime.
Can you make money in it? Sure.
Just be aware of the risk.

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KD says on Apr 9, 2008, 19:09:

Despite the fact that I think the dollar will continue to weaken, I'm a strong believer of a fourth quarter dollar recovery. The Fed’s interest rate cuts should have their effect on the markets in the second half of the year at a time when the cracks that we're already seeing in the Eurozone economy become craters. The ECB will find themselves behind the curve, rushing to cut interest rates while the Fed winds down their own rate cuts. The tables will turn in favor of the dollar and that's when I expect a more meaningful dollar recovery.

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KD says on Apr 9, 2008, 19:13:

Before the dollar manages to recover, more damage will be done. Japanese corporates are particularly hard hit, and I think Canadian and European companies will be as well. The Nikkei is already down significantly since the beginning of the year as Japanese companies are hit by the triple whammy of weaker sales, higher material costs, a quickly appreciating currency.

According to the Tankan report, we're well below the break-even point for Japanese corporations. Toyota Motor Corp for example said the weak dollar cut fourth quarter profit by $194 million. Yamaha Motor Co. also said they expect net profit to drop by 17 percent this year because of dollar/yen weakness. Expect more pain to be felt, which means bigger losses for all major foreign exporters.

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RAAAY says on Apr 9, 2008, 20:56:

Robi............betting on the US...???????


......April 5 (Bloomberg) -- The jump in March bankruptcy filings is another indication the U.S. economy is in recession, led by states where the housing boom turned to bust.

The more than 90,000 bankruptcy filings in March were the highest since insolvency laws became more restrictive in October 2005, according to statistics compiled from court records by Jupiter eSources LLC. At a daily rate, filings in March were 30 percent above the pace in 2007.

Rising bankruptcies, together with mounting foreclosures and fewer jobs, are further signs the biggest housing slump in a generation is hurting consumers and businesses. Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke this week for the first time acknowledged the economy may be facing a recession and vowed to act to cushion the slowdown...........




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.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

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RAAAY says on Apr 10, 2008, 07:31:

robi666 says on Thursday April 10th, 2008 6:11:

..........." Americans are the smartest people of the world."

You have never been to the US..........and If I did'nt already know that........I'd have been able to guess.........

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.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

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Saltador says on Apr 10, 2008, 07:40:

Agree with Robi.
As I've stated, people on here seem to think that the US will just sit on their hands while the dollar just free-falls into oblivion.
These things all seem to move in cycles, and there will be a reversion to the mean.

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RAAAY says on Apr 10, 2008, 08:40:

Gringoloid...there are more millionaires in Ireland per head of capita than in the US. Making a lot of money there is a lot easier than in the US.............

If we think that there is a lot of red tape and interferience in Colombia....try spending some time in the US.......Shit....I called 411 yesterday trying to get a phone number.......30 minutes later I was almost going to throw the phone out the window.....

Yes.Robi...you are correct. Americans are very smart...............some of them..........all the smart one could be squeezed into a bus.

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RAAAY says on Apr 10, 2008, 08:40:

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee......................

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RAAAY says on Apr 10, 2008, 08:45:

Salt.......... " people on here seem to think that the US will just sit on their hands while the dollar just free-falls into oblivion."

The weak dollar is having a huge impact on the US exports. Right now, it is almost impossible to get container space out of the US.................


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RAAAY says on Apr 10, 2008, 08:47:

Smart Americans..................I watching a video now..............long story...............anyway, this guy was just asked..." who is the President of the US ".......answer........" ahhh......ummmm......ahhh.......George Clinton "


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RAAAY says on Apr 10, 2008, 08:49:

Yesterday I passed a gathering of American Mensa members. Every member of Mensa in the US was there. The meeting, which was held in a telephone box, seemed to be very sucessfull.

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RAAAY says on Apr 10, 2008, 08:49:

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.........

.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

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RAAAY says on Apr 10, 2008, 08:53:

The National Italian Mensa, annual general convention, is usually held in March. All the members of Italian Mensa, get on a two seater bike and go for a plate of pasta.


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kat1 (Moderator) (Trustee board) (☼Travelguide writer) says on Apr 10, 2008, 08:58:

durito says on Apr 10, 2008, 09:02:

1,400 and costs here will be 3x what they are in ecuador. Guess i'm moving to Ecuador.

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RAAAY says on Apr 10, 2008, 09:38:

Actualyy Gringoloid, you are wrong.......WRONG....WRONG.......hee hee...............

Seriously though, the biggest part of the millionaires in Ireland are all new. It has also led to a new found arrogance, amonst a lot of Irish people. There is a subtle difference, between confidance and arrogance.........I believe they have become very arrogant with all the new found wealth.

It is not old money. Twenty years ago you could have gathered every millionaire in the country into a big car. This is not an exagaration(sp).

New York was good to me and to a lot of others. Being back in the States for a little time makes me wonder what the fuck I am doing in Colombia. I've come on a real nice business for sale in Central Coast CA............Trucking industry............which is dying a f**kin death here...........but it looks interesting........any idea what Central Coast is like..........never been there, but something about the name makes it sound nice.


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RAAAY says on Apr 10, 2008, 11:13:

Gringoloid.........Yes, that is the area.

And yes, this industry is going through a very , very hard time. Freight fees have not caught up with the costs of fuel. That is why so many are going out of business and there are some serious bargins out there for someone that might want to buy a small company.

The outfit I am looking at has six realitively new trucks and 10 trailers. Been in business 10 years with a good customer base.The fuel costs are killing them, but if they did'nt have such big payments on equipment they would be fine, and making very good money.

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RAAAY says on Apr 10, 2008, 11:19:

I can't understand why you folks are surprised at the Peso.

Did'nt I tell all of you last August what was going to happen. Oh, ye of little faith.

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durito says on Apr 10, 2008, 11:30:

1,000 to $1

so, a double cheeseburger, fries, and coke at el corral will cost $20
a dorm room in a hostel, $20-25
a set lunch, $5-6
a medium pizza, $30
a ride on the metro $1.40
taxi from airport into medellin $45
a 1,000 square foot poblado apartment, $200,000

yea, that seems reasonable.

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RAAAY says on Apr 10, 2008, 11:33:

Dollar bills are still good for lighting cigarettes with.........

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DodgerDogs says on Apr 10, 2008, 13:05:

Live rates at 2008.04.10 20:03:20 UTC
1.00 USD = 1,788.00 COP
United States Dollars Colombia Pesos
1 USD = 1,788.00 COP 1 COP = 0.000559284 USD

Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.Martin Luther King:

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RAAAY says on Apr 11, 2008, 07:06:

Yes Tom, I would imagine that the US will survive. But there is pain being suffered by so many at the moment. This will continue, and get worse, before it gets better.

The vast numbers of people, currently being affected by this downturn ,is staggering. Housing foreclosure numbers are huge. Bankruptcies have gone through the roof, to the point that they are clogging the whole system.

And, it has'nt even taken a proper hold yet. There are going to be greater problems in the US in the coming months. I imagine the stock market will hold up, as so many of the large companies are getting good numbers from overseas sales. But, the real estate ? It would appear, it has a ways to go yet, before it reaches bottom.

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RAAAY says on Apr 11, 2008, 07:19:

One of the measures, attached to the new bill in the Senate, is to give a $7000 tax credit to anyone that buys a foreclosed property. They did'nt like that bit. By the time this thing gets out of the House, it will be interesting to see what they have in mind.

As it is now, real estate agencies, run bus trips around foreclosed properties in Florida. One real estate agent can show thirty properties, to a bus full of people in one day. These friggin bus loads are zooming all over the place. And " buyers " are still holding off.


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RAAAY says on Apr 11, 2008, 07:54:

Looks good.................

I'm told that, the property I sold in Florida last July, is now worth $600,000 less than what they paid me for it. Ouch.

Timing in life is everything.


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durito says on Apr 11, 2008, 11:01:

Peru and Chile's gov'ts both intervened to stop their currencies from appreciating today.

Chile Peso Falls Most Since 1992 as Central Bank to Buy Dollars

By Andrea Jaramillo

April 11 (Bloomberg) -- Chile's peso tumbled the most since May 1992 after the central bank said it will buy dollars to slow a five-year currency rally that has eroded exporters' profits.

The peso sank 3.8 percent to 450.37 per dollar at 11:08 a.m. New York time, from 434.05 yesterday. It earlier tumbled as much as 4.5 percent.

Banco Central de Chile said late yesterday it will buy $8 billion in currency markets this year, purchasing as much as $50 million a day starting next week. The move will raise foreign reserves by more than 40 percent, the bank said in a statement.

``The central bank is serious about stemming the peso's appreciation; that's a lot of money,'' said Benito Berber, a strategist at RBS Greenwich Capital Markets in Greenwich, Connecticut.

The 4 percentage-point difference between the Chilean and U.S. benchmark rates, along with gains in copper, the country's biggest export, has fueled the rally in the peso, cutting into the profit margins of manufacturing and agriculture companies.

``While commodity prices remain strong, we should see the peso remain pretty stable,'' Berber said. ``The peso will begin a weakening trend'' if copper prices decline.

Berber forecasts the peso will weaken to 475 per dollar by year-end.

The yield on Chile's 6 percent bonds due in March 2017 was little changed at 6.55 percent, according to HSBC Chile.

To contact the reporter on this story: Andrea Jaramillo in Bogota at ajaramillo1 at bloomberg.net

Peru's Sol Drops After Central Bank Raises Reserve Requirement

By Andrea Jaramillo

April 11 (Bloomberg) -- Peru's sol had its biggest decline in almost six years after the central bank tripled the reserve requirement on foreigners' deposits in local banks to curb capital inflows.

The sol dropped 1.1 percent to 2.7448 per dollar at 1:22 p.m. New York time. It earlier dropped as much as 2.3 percent. The sol is still up 21.5 percent over the past two years, buoyed by a rally in the price of its commodity exports.

``Foreign banks were taking advantage of the sol's appreciation by taking out term deposits with local banks,'' said Gonzalo Navarro, head currency trader at Banco Santander SA in Lima. The reserve requirement increase ``takes away that incentive and we'll probably start seeing dollars leave Peru as a result of this in the next few weeks.''

The central bank late yesterday raised the reserve requirement on non-residents' bank accounts to 120 percent from 40 percent. The money will be held in the central bank and won't earn interest.

``It's important that we gradually limit capital inflows,'' central bank General Manager Renzo Rossini said in a conference call from Lima today. ``There's a quantity of liquidity floating around the world looking for investments with a rate of return, and they've found it in the currency market.''

The central bank last night also raised its key lending rate a quarter percentage-point to 5.50 percent in a bid to slow consumer demand and bring the annual inflation rate down from a nine-year high. The increase surprised all except two of the 12 economists surveyed by Bloomberg. The rest predicted the bank would leave the rate at 5.25 percent.

`Better Communicate'

``The central bank should strive to better communicate its views on inflation to the market, as the authorities had gone to great lengths to indicate they weren't going to raise the rate,'' said Boris Segura, an economist at Morgan Stanley in New York. ``This might signal the bank is concerned it's falling behind the curve in controlling inflation.''

The decline in the sol was the biggest since July 31, 2002, when mounting concern Brazil would default on its debts dragged currencies down throughout the region.

The yield on Peru's 8.6 percent sol-denominated bonds due in August 2017 was little changed at 6.53 percent, according to Citibank Peru. The price fell 0.01 centimo to 114.35 centimos per sol.

To contact the reporter on this story: Andrea Jaramillo in Bogota at ajaramillo1 at bloomberg.net

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Tinto (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Apr 11, 2008, 13:01:

I'm thinking about selling all my U.S. assets and going into the garbage-hauling business in Naples, Italy.

I wanted access to health care, housing and education, but, no, I get potholes, trash and silicone tits instead. -Desi.

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Tinto (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Apr 11, 2008, 13:17:

There ya' go! Perfect! And if the garbage business doesn't work out, Italy is sure to be in the market for another President so maybe I can do that for a while.

;-)

I wanted access to health care, housing and education, but, no, I get potholes, trash and silicone tits instead. -Desi.

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RAAAY says on Apr 11, 2008, 13:26:

Tinto says on Friday April 11th, 2008 13:01:

.." I'm thinking about selling all my U.S. assets and going into the garbage-hauling business in Naples, Italy."


That sounds like a good idea.............there's a lot of garbage in Italy............the people are garbage.......the country is garbage........their women are garbage, with hairy armpits,.....
.............loads of garbage in Italy.........


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durito says on Apr 11, 2008, 13:46:

Booms (and the bubbles that follow them) typically go like this:

1) Everyone is skeptical, a few smart investors are in making money
2) More smart people get in, fundamentals are solid and gains justified
3) Everyone tells you to get in (taxi drivers buying nasdaq 1999, everyone and their brother trying to flip real estate 2005) -- at this point the guys in #1 are cashing out and moving on
4) Bubble bursts, lots of people left holding the bag -- but plenty made off with their cash.

I don't think it's going to happen right away, but the dollar will in fact come back, especially vs other developed countries currencies.

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durito says on Apr 11, 2008, 15:25:

"durito............a lot of people here say we're at #3 on this. the taxi drivers getting into gold right now.

from what i see, not many people own gold right now...............try it yourself.....ask all your friends if they own more than say, 5 grand worth of gold bullion.

i think you'll find very few people that you know, own gold."

Many of the gringos I know in Colombia are telling me to buy lots and lots of gold (someone told me to put all my money in gold). In the states, I'd say hardly anyone i know owns any gold.

I'm not sure where it will go, but I'm hardly interested in putting a large amount of my limited money (still quite young) in anyone investment -- especially one that has followed past booms with 20 years periods of stagnation. Still, it probably for sure beats putting all of one's assets in a third world economy.

The US economy may have a ways to fall and it certainly has some issues -- but it isn't going to collapse overnight. That's probably not going to happen in Colombia either, but it has happened plenty in the past in Latin America and it will certainly happen again somewhere.

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goin_south says on Apr 11, 2008, 16:42:

roci: "After that I see the peso back to 1500"



Okay,.. Swaminante!

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goin_south says on Apr 11, 2008, 16:43:

Rrrrrrubito: "I think it will reach 1000, but by that time I will be not only making money there but I'll have money invested there."

Si!, But,... will you be LIVING THERE?

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durito says on Apr 11, 2008, 17:16:

currency movements are not as easy to predict as amateur economists would think

G-7 Sets Aggressive Tone
On the Sagging Dollar
By MICHAEL M. PHILLIPS
April 12, 2008

WASHINGTON -- The world's major economic powers issued a warning to financial markets Friday that they won't sit by and watch the dollar continue to slide against other big currencies.
[Dollar]

In a highly unusual move, Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke and their counterparts from the Group of Seven nations said in a statement: "Since our last meeting, there have been at times sharp fluctuations in major currencies, and we are concerned about their possible implications for economic and financial stability."

Their words, though mild at first glance, mark a departure from the communiques the officials issued after previous G-7 meetings and appear intended to demonstrate the group's desire to put a floor under the falling dollar. Currency traders scrutinize the wording of official pronouncements for the tiniest changes in inflection. By those standards, Friday's communique was blunt, even though the group stopped short of using official money to buy up dollars and push the currency upward.


"The thought is that statements today could signal policy changes tomorrow, and traders might act on that," said Matthew Slaughter, a former member of the White House Council of Economic Advisers and economist at Dartmouth's Tuck School of Business.

The risk, however, is that markets could reverse course and bet against the dollar if the G-7 nations fail to take steps to boost the currency, such as raising U.S. interest rates, lowering European interest rates or intervening directly in the markets.

European and Canadian officials had been pressing for months for relief from their strong currencies, which make their goods and services relatively less attractive compared with overseas competition, especially China.

Joaquín Almunia, European commissioner for economic and monetary policy, said Friday in Washington, before the G-7 officials met, that the combination of big U.S. trade deficits and big Asian trade surpluses could prompt a further sharp decline in the dollar and rise in the euro. That "could disproportionately impact our economy," he said.

G-7 finance ministers meet in Washington, where they are set to release a statement, noting U.S. weakness without using the word "recession."

Luxembourg Prime Minister Jean-Claude Juncker, chairman of the 15 euro-zone finance ministers, raised European concerns about the dollar's weakness during a private meeting this week with President Bush, according to Mr. Juncker's office. The White House declined to describe the discussion.

Mr. Bush said last month he "absolutely" would like to see a stronger dollar. By indicating he thought markets had undervalued the dollar, Mr. Bush went far beyond previous administration comments on currencies.

The dollar's slide puts Mr. Paulson in a tough spot. Its weakness has made U.S. goods and services more competitive overseas, one of the few bright spots in an economy that many analysts already believe to be in recession. Rising exports have helped stop the rapid expansion of the U.S. trade gap.

On the other hand, the dollar's weakness may be pushing up oil prices and contributing to domestic inflationary pressures. A precipitous fall in the dollar might spark a vicious circle of rising interest rates and slower growth as foreign investors pull their money out of dollar investments.

"A key tenet of the whole strategy has been a focus on market-determined exchange rates," said Massachusetts Institute of Technology economist Kristin Forbes, a former adviser to Mr. Bush. "It's a very fine line to say now that we don't trust the markets; we want officials to determine exchange rates."

The dollar has been in a fairly steady decline since 2002, although it hit its peak against the euro -- 82.7 cents per euro -- on Oct. 25, 2000. A euro bought $1.5828 at Friday's 4 p.m. close, marking a 15% fall in the dollar's value against the common currency during the past year and a 7.8% slide since Dec. 31. Likewise, the dollar is down 15% against the yen during the past year and 9.5% since the end of 2007. Measured against the currencies of 17 U.S. trading partners, the dollar is down 9.8% from a year ago.

The International Monetary Fund, in a report issued this past week, said that the dollar's 25% inflation-adjusted decline since 2002 is "one of the largest dollar depreciation episodes" since the early 1970s.

The G-7 also reiterated its demand that Beijing allow the yuan to rise, although the officials said they welcomed "China's decision to increase the flexibility of its currency."

The G-7 includes the U.S., the United Kingdom, France, Germany, Italy, Canada and Japan.

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durito says on Apr 11, 2008, 17:53:

i'm not expecting them to do anything, just pointing out what they are saying. i' believe us markets are in a long term secular bear market (like 1966-1982 was) that started in 2000 and that there will be a point still quite a few years down the road where the return in US equities is near 0.

Perhaps, Bush isn't quite as dumb as I think he is.

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BillBigD says on Apr 11, 2008, 20:25:

TOMTOM-Many agree with you that if the price of oil switched to Euro's the price would go down.
Cheney-Those stats you showed the other days were dated 2006. Doubt with HAL stock performance that is still the case.

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BillBigD says on Apr 11, 2008, 21:30:

Gringoloid-They are just estimates! Just like the estimates H. Clinton gives now since she is running for office.

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goin_south says on Apr 11, 2008, 22:20:

well, well... we'll see what all the smooth sooth sayers know next week. I got this line in an email from a particular sort of agent who had this to say:

"The USD is going down the next week, so I recommend you to buy the tickets next Monday and not tomorrow."

And, to be honest... I really didn't understand 'all the conversions' that are implied with this one sentence. (remember, only playing with a "half duck", and now... no duck atoll)... maybe some of you "Muy Intelligentes" can interpret this for me. If the dollar is 'goin_down next week,... why is this person recommending me to WAIT until Monday to buy??? rather than buying tomorrow?

This is from someone I know and have known and who is usually looking out for my best interests.

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Ctg Bound says on Apr 12, 2008, 05:01:

robi666,

Switching Euros to dollars will make sense soon, probably not yet though, when the Euro was floating around 0.85-0.88 to the dollar in late 2001 early 2002, I recomended to friends to sell dollars and move into Euros.

I thought that the dollar would drop to 1.40-160 to the Euro, where it is now, but it might well fall a bit further.

But the time to switch from Euros to US dollars is coming soon, although I am not calling that just yet.

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Ctg Bound says on Apr 12, 2008, 05:14:

jonas,

The Euro is overvalued against the Dollar, the only reason it has gone up so much is that it is a free floating currency, the Asian currencies should have appreciated far more against the dollar than the Euro, but they are held in check by their governments interventions.

The US might have some problems at the moment, but they will be sorted and the US will move on, before that happens the dollar will start to gain against the Euro at least.

Countries (mostly developing) that have large hard commodity exports & well run agricultural sector, I think will carry on with their appreciating currencies, China & India even if they slow down, will carry on sucking in the above for quite a few years yet.

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Ctg Bound says on Apr 12, 2008, 05:19:

durito,

I would disagree, for the major economies I find currency movements are easy to predict, you have to ignore all the rubbish people talk and look at the fundamentals of the economy, trade balances etc.

Take a view, don't change it to each new news article, then sit back with some patience.

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Ctg Bound says on Apr 12, 2008, 05:23:

Oil quoted in dollars.

I don't think it would make any differance what product the currency is quoted in.

OPEC are using dollar weaknes as a cover story, nothing more, they can't come out and honestly say we want a barrel of oil as high as possible to make as much money as possible.

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BillBigD says on Apr 12, 2008, 05:58:

vipsx- Wow so it was up in a down market. Up $2 in two years. Great investment. You can make $2 in a stock in one day.

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I have been posting on here for years, stating predictions, they have been correct, unlike your good friend Mr. GIBerrish who most of the time had the opposite view to me and has been prooved wrong time and time again, I mention him as most of my predictions are in threads he liked to predict in, so I posted in them as I believed he was wrong.

All that needs to be done there is look up my posts.

I don't post on a public forumn what I am investing in, although I recomend things to many people face to face, I also have stated above what I think.

DELETEDI get my information from certain financial media outlets, not the wacko channels.

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durito says on Apr 12, 2008, 09:30:

"durito,

I would disagree, for the major economies I find currency movements are easy to predict, you have to ignore all the rubbish people talk and look at the fundamentals of the economy, trade balances etc."

So I assume you make millions in the currency markets?

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BillBigD says on Apr 12, 2008, 09:37:

Gringo- My fault I looked at it early in the morning and only looked at a chart. Not dividend payout.Different story, not bad at all. But I find it pretty funny that you did trucking, taxis, limos throughout the 80s, in new york city and chicago. But later an investment banker on wall street, a certified financial planner, and possess an mba, Well for someone who is so on top of things how can you not be aware of a ETF like SLV. You called out INTC and SLB and when I told you INTC was a dog you said you didn't have it. Still waiting to see what you have.

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BillBigD says on Apr 12, 2008, 10:34:

Gringo- All is good with me just don't like being called a dumbass. I don't want your portfolio just wanted to discuss ideas. Anyone can say they invested in something two years ago after it has done well. That is why I don't mention stocks that I have been in or are playing. It is what you are doing now that matters. Although i did mention a few.
Also think you are missing something not following ETF's. No Fees, can trade at any time during the day. etc

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poco says on Apr 12, 2008, 10:59:

Quote: cheney just made 3000% on his halliburton options

Maybe he did,, probably but it is way too much trouble to make a comparison to other companies option holders.

No problem to instantly view various time periods. I used a ten years chart for these numbers.

2007 ranking and percentage based on a ten year chart.
No. 1 SLB Schlumberger = 125%
No. 2 HAL Halliburton = 70%
No. 3 BHI Baker Hughes = 55 %
No. ? BJS BJ Services = 225%
Why BJS,, Liked the name and symbol.

During various periods when Halliburton made the news I’d call up the charts.

Historically,, Halliburton had the LEAST percentage gain. This post reminded me to review the charts,, check it out,,, HAL doing much better then one of its rivals.

Anyone thinking,, That’s 10 years,, yeh,, right,, show me what he MADE !!!

The ACTUAL NUMBERS show Halliburton went DOWN 70% starting at the time BUSH/Cheney were elected and it took TWO years to return it’s pre-election price.

Interesting,, Isn’t it,, Halliburton started to do better when they established their corporate offices in Dubai. How much better,, try 30% better in the last year.

I can guarantee the Halliburton employees have a MUCH, MUCH, MUCH better life and the education system is not even comparable.

Who knows? I no longer have contacts in Dubai but one thing made it superior,, parents are responsible for their children and teachers teach. Maybe they teach various views and not what they believe is the BEST truth?

It is also interesting to note that 400 of the top fortune 500 companies have offices in Dubai, not all are corporate offices,, but,, it’s early.

Wouldn’t it be horrible if he owned Apple,, up 2000% in 10 years.

Colombian Chickens are crowing about the new President of the U.S. who will assure that From each according to their ability to each according to their need.

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RAAAY says on Apr 12, 2008, 11:07:

Is Gringoloid posting here....??


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.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

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goin_south says on Apr 12, 2008, 11:37:

gringoloid... no, no.. .I wasn't referring to you.

Really, an agent in Colombia told me that yesterday.
I felt like: 'Lost in Translation'... plus... how would 'she' know? and... then, I get confused, comin and goin on those calculations now and then... I'm just figuring... the price goes up, or down... irregardless whether in pesos or usd. She threw me a wicked 'KNUCKLEBALL' of a recommendation... jaja...

I talked to the same person again this morning.
I should have locked those flights in today.. but, I think 8 am Monday AM will be all the same.
we'll see.

not you, GL.

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Ctg Bound says on Apr 12, 2008, 11:45:

durito,

I have made a lot on the on the currency markets.

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durito says on Apr 12, 2008, 11:47:

Good for you.

We had 25 economic and math PHD's working in the currency department at the bank I worked at. They found it quite difficult.

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Ctg Bound says on Apr 12, 2008, 11:49:

BillBigD,

He is a Wacko, that explains how he has done or more likely not done the above.

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poco says on Apr 12, 2008, 11:49:

Quote: According to the Vice President’s Federal Financial Disclosure forms, he holds the following Halliburton stock options:

33,333 shares at $28.1250 (vested), expire December 2, 2008
300,000 shares at $39.5000 (vested), expire December 2, 2009
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That's the problem with PBH (of course others),, no real data,, what were they worth, when were they given,, etc, etc, etc.

A LOT of noise,,, where's the meat? HAL performed BADLY (as posted above) until they moved to Dubai.

What kind of killing did Cheney make?

Since these are Democratic numbers,, well,, I guess these might be good?
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Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ) asserts that Cheney's options -- worth $241,498 a year ago -- are now valued at more than $8 million. The former CEO of the oil and gas services juggernaut, Cheney has pledged to give proceeds to charity.
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Well,, gosh,, HAL moved to Dubai and went up 30% (as noted above), not that this was the primary reason but let's face it,, didn't hurt.

OK,, Cheney pledged to give the proceeds to charity. Plus,, this really isn't that much money especially compared to the 109 Million income for the Clintons??

Did I read somewhere that Colombia paid about 1 Million to a preferred/referred FTA Clinton advisor?

If it was me,, I'd really think alot about WHAT charity gets my money. Oh,, lets see,, Clintons donated to Charity,, the Bill Clinton presidential library. Oh,, that's right Obama STARTED to give to charity,, 20,000 to his church?

Colombian Chickens are crowing about the new President of the U.S. who will assure that From each according to their ability to each according to their need.

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Ctg Bound says on Apr 12, 2008, 12:02:

gringoloid DELETED

I have made my predictions on here, look them up, they are generally where Mr GIB was posting his GIB (hence my name for him) and you will find nearly all of them the opposite to Mr
I NEVER worked in the financial industry, although I knew many, to me they were a bunch of sheep, just like you sound, hence why you are repeating the headlines that some are saying of a huge USA recession, you sound like one of those sheep.

Funny that I am not saying that, in fact the opposite, but you are not happy with that prediction as its against the mainstream view which you yourself are following.

I also stated on this thread that the time is coming shortly when it will be to switch from Euros to dollars, although I believe not yet, you are not happy with that either.

I also state that commodity exporting Countries currency will generally carry on rising, not happy with that one.

I also state that in the first half of this year that I expect limited growth to slightly negative growth in the US economy, but growth in the second half, you are not happy with that.

I also state that I expect that there will be few problems with Colombia this year, just taking a bit of its growth, which will be healthy for Colombia, but you are not happy with that either.

Interesting DELETED, that you are not interested in my present predictions, or what I said regarding the Euro, which you claim I have made up, but all the above predictions are quoted in the last week or two.

One bit of information I posted on here before in a Mr GIB thread, I bought property in Ctg in 2002-2004, then started selling them in 2007, making up to 500% growth on the best selling one, which was the first I bought and percentage growth increase declining from there, to the last I bought which was just 40%. This was in a reply to him claiming that people can't make money on property in Colombia plus any gains they had made was only on paper.

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Ctg Bound says on Apr 12, 2008, 12:04:

gringoloid DELETED
Actually Durito knows me, although not very well, we have only met briefly 2 or 3 times.

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poco says on Apr 12, 2008, 12:15:

Oh,, predictions,, BTW: had to go back to identify Mr. Wacko.

Problem with predictions on this board is the edit function. To be somewhat reliable, ANY edit should show the date and shove it to the top of the active posts. Ha,, now that would be interesting.

I've saved quite a few of the more interesting predictions / comments to file. I've seen quite a few edits,, not spelling, not structure,, comments and/or predictions the posters made in the past.

So,, to allow me the opportunity to make future edits,, let me predict this.

Want to own a currency,, make sure it's Asian.

Colombian Chickens are crowing about the new President of the U.S. who will assure that From each according to their ability to each according to their need.

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Ctg Bound says on Apr 12, 2008, 12:22:

poco,

Yes I tend to agree with you regarding the edit button, ignoring the first 15-20 mins, a line should appear below the first line saying that this posted was edited on X date and X time.

You won't find any of my predictions etc edited, other than a very short period of time after I have posted the post, maximum hours (which is rare), but mostly just within a few minutes or so.

Also there are responces in the threads by others which would contradicte any editing when talking about financial information, like MrGIBberish claiming Peso heading to 3,000 while I was takeing the opposite view.

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poco says on Apr 12, 2008, 12:25:

Quote: Yes I tend to agree with you regarding the edit button, ignoring the first 15-20 mins, a line should appear below the first line saying that this posted was edited on X date and X time.
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I'd thought about the time limit,, it might be difficult to program. I make many modifications in the fist,, (see,, another one) few minutes.

It would make the poster aware his edits would push his post to the top,, but,, heck,, for the first few minutes it shouldn't matter.

Colombian Chickens are crowing about the new President of the U.S. who will assure that From each according to their ability to each according to their need.

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poco says on Apr 12, 2008, 12:26:

Quote: Yes I tend to agree with you regarding the edit button, ignoring the first 15-20 mins, a line should appear below the first line saying that this posted was edited on X date and X time.
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I'd thought about the time limit,, it might be difficult to program. I make many modifications in the fist,, (see,, another one) few minutes.

It would make the poster aware his edits would push his post to the top,, but,, heck,, for the first few minutes it shouldn't matter.

Colombian Chickens are crowing about the new President of the U.S. who will assure that From each according to their ability to each according to their need.

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Ctg Bound says on Apr 12, 2008, 12:29:

poco,

As you can see I just added some more information to the above post, I have seen it on other chat boards, the last one allowed you 45 mins, before mentioning it was a edited post, I don't know much about computer programming so can't comment on how hard it is to do.

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durito says on Apr 12, 2008, 12:29:

Ctg Bound-

Who are you?

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Ctg Bound says on Apr 12, 2008, 12:32:

durito,

I will PM you now, I don't want a WACK job knowing to much about me.

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poco says on Apr 12, 2008, 12:38:

Quote: As you can see I just added some more information to the above post, I have seen it on other chat boards, the last one allowed you 45 mins, before mentioning it was a edited post,
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That is too long,, lots of comments could be made between that time.

I'd say,, if anything,, edits BEFORE the next post.

It would be interesting to see a post link to a past post that WAS not edited. How nice it would be,,, the poster could say,, see,, I told you so. Frankly I've made so many posts that it shouldn't be hard to find something. You know,, I remember predicting the peso rate several years ago,, damn,, that was an amazing prediction,, missed it by less,,, no wait,, I think it was PERFECT,, let me go find that link.

Seriously,, something needs to be done,, anything is better than nothing.

Colombian Chickens are crowing about the new President of the U.S. who will assure that From each according to their ability to each according to their need.

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Ctg Bound says on Apr 12, 2008, 12:42:

poco,

I agree 45 mins is to long, but I estimate that about 20 times over the years I have lost posts that I was writing due to power outages, so if I am writing anything other than a quick reply I like to post it out although it may not be finished.

I know I could open up a word doc for example, right the reply in there with regular saving, but it gets a bit tediouse aftter a while, so I just do the above.

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goin_south says on Apr 12, 2008, 13:41:

maybe they got that gas stove finally delivered and cooked his goose in it for demo?

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Ctg Bound says on Apr 12, 2008, 14:02:

gringoloid Funny how now you don't want to comment on the prediction front, much like when I pointed obviouse flaws in your 9/11 theory, the comments on that subject dried upOn another note, didn't you also work in a Iron foundary or something like that, I suppose that was in the day time when you were a undergrad, while you studied at night?
NAMECALLING DELETED

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durito says on Apr 12, 2008, 15:23:

Capitalism breeds excesses. Wall street and the big financial firms follow cycles of booms and busts. During the busts people freak out, some clamor for more regulation, credit tightens, growth slows, etc. Gradually that all goes away and a new cycle will begin.

The US economy has made it through several financial crisis in the past, it will make it through this one. It may take a while to sort out, but it will.

The most important thing I always remember is that when people are saying "this time is different" versus past history, they are usually wrong.

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durito says on Apr 12, 2008, 15:34:

How do you figure?

During the Savings and Loan fiasco of the 1980's basically every US bank went Bankrupt to quite similar amounts of loses that were bailed out by the gov't.

The banking system is bigger today and better equipped to handle such loses.

Are we just talking US banks? Or all over the world.

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poco says on Apr 12, 2008, 15:47:

Quote: During the Savings and Loan fiasco of the 1980's basically every US bank went Bankrupt to quite similar amounts of loses that were bailed out by the gov't.

Not exactly,, the failures were localized and it wasn't banks for the most part it was savings and loans. I worked with the RTC so I didn't need to look this up.

This is a link. I glanced looks about right.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resolution_Trust_Corporation

Colombian Chickens are crowing about the new President of the U.S. who will assure that From each according to their ability to each according to their need.

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durito says on Apr 12, 2008, 15:53:

I was a child then so I can't really say. The point is that financial crisis' come up from time to time everywhere and once they are worked out, economies recover.

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Apr 12, 2008, 16:14:

Talking about money really brings out the best in you gringos.
Wacko? Ctg. Coward? Tell me these are just terms of endearment so that I don't need to delete this thread.

A fronte praecipitium a tergo lupi

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poco says on Apr 12, 2008, 16:36:

Quote: Tell me these are just terms of endearment so that I don't need to delete this thread.

Endearment.

Colombian Chickens are crowing about the new President of the U.S. who will assure that From each according to their ability to each according to their need.

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Apr 13, 2008, 12:25:

Thank you tomtom. Appreciated.

*Loid and Ctg Bound; i've spent a lot of time cleaning up the mess you left behind. I DIDN'T appreciate it. One more name-calling, ad hominem and this thread is history.

A fronte praecipitium a tergo lupi

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RAAAY says on Apr 13, 2008, 12:49:

Desi........It might be better, just to delete their accounts alltogether........and when you're at it, you should delete Tom an Durito and Poco.....ZAP ZAP ZAP...........You also should delete Robi.......he's a nast piece of work.........and although he did'nt put any nasty comments on this thread.........I'm pretty sure that he gave it some thought..........nip it in the bud........ZAP ZAP ZAP....................


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.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

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RAAAY says on Apr 13, 2008, 16:48:

I'm Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaak..............I replied to your e-mail from the airport.........



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.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

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Ctg Bound says on Apr 15, 2008, 12:11:

gringoloid,

My financial predictions look fine to me, you asked me to point something out I did, I did, you choose to not believe it, thats up to you.

I don't see you making any real predictions though other than a big US recession, LIST THEM?

I HAVE ZERO pro dollar investments, as I stated in Mr GIBberish posts for the last several years, I have money in many things, but have avoided US dollars since 2002.

Also for several years I have been repeating much of the above, if you wish to wade through comments you will find most of them

I don't talk about present investments, as stated, I don't see why that is hard to believe.

As to "getting you", please point out where I stated that, I am sure you are imagining things again, also please point out any OTHER threats to you, again you are seeing things that are not there?

The 9/11 post has been deleted, so I can't proove that you didn't respond to my last most on that subject, but you didn't as far as I am aware.

I think that you are a nut job who sees things that aren't there as prooved the thread where I initialy called you a WACKO.

As to claiming not to be sensative, did you not say that I hit a nerve in the above thread, so you are also a LIER, or conviently forgot that.

As to claiming I make myself look a fool, maybe but you certainly have.

As to causing problems I suggest then YOU don't start them, I suggest you have a look who started the problem, the link is below in the Desi post, all I did was respond to your outburst, first on that thread then on this thread.

Then claiming that you have no problem with somebody who is 180 degrees opposite to you like that is NOT the problem, the problem is you see things that aren't there.

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Ctg Bound says on Apr 15, 2008, 12:12:

Desi,

Here is the thread that gringoloid jumped down my throught for NOTHING.

http://poorbuthappy.com/colombia/post/latin-american-nations-given-ale...

He then decided to bring his personnel problems onto this thread, as if you look you started deleted in his thread here first.

I am afraid that I am the type of person who has no problem responding if somebody starts on me.

As far as I am concerned he is a nut job.

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Ctg Bound says on Apr 15, 2008, 12:13:

gringoloid,

As to being a coward, TIME AND PLACE NUTTER, I look forward to it in Medellin, bring some back up you will need it.

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Ctg Bound says on Apr 15, 2008, 12:23:

jonas,

Problems are eternal in the markets and economies, this credit problem will pass as they all do.

The governement rebate will kick in in the last 6 months of 2008, that on its own will raise GDP by I expected 0.6%, interest rates cuts will also start to kick in.

I expect the dollar to carry on falling against a basket of currencies, thus increasing exports, although that won't help US inflation.

Less properties being built will reduce inventory.

Banks are recapitlising themselves.

The credit paper will find a bottom, then look cheap and start to be purchased by banks & financial houses with cash, I expect we are close to the bottom now, if not already there.

Also are the numbers much bigger, we will only know that later, due to right downs are not right offs, plus I expect half the actual right offs to be spread around the world, while only half is in the US, thus spreading the pain.

Here is a link to some graphs regarding where the losses are:

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/7c0152b4-0afb-11dd-8ccf-0000779fd2ac.html

The list goes on, those are just a few that come to my me as I am typing, I read several hundred articles a week, to put that down in a few words is difficult, for me at least.

About 1 month before the storm started in 2007, I posted on here that we were due for one.

I think we are though the worst or possibly bumping along the bottom of it and will soon be out of this one, time will tell.

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Ctg Bound says on Apr 15, 2008, 12:24:

robi666,

I was going to invite morphus as he is a BIG bugger.

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RAAAY says on Apr 15, 2008, 13:08:

I'm nuetral............I'm a lover, not a fighter..........but I think it would be a good idea if you lads beat up on Robi first. It would be good practice.

I suggest taking him off to El Penol and throw him off the top, to see if he can fly. If indeed he can flap hard enough, to get a safe landing, you could then stick wee pins into him, and try again.


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.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

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Ctg Bound says on Apr 15, 2008, 13:12:

RAAY,

gringoloid can't beat up on Robi, he is going to get an apt from him.

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RAAAY says on Apr 15, 2008, 13:15:

Robi's apt smells like shit............


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.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

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Ctg Bound says on Apr 15, 2008, 14:55:

bump,

I am waiting for your reply gringoloid, where and when or are you just one of these people who threaten, in the ring or out, either way I am game.

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Ctg Bound says on Apr 15, 2008, 14:56:

I am off PBH now for today, I will come back Wednesday to see if the person who likes to threaten has grown some balls.

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Desideria (Moderator) (Trustee board) says on Apr 16, 2008, 06:57:

No, if you edit your posts yourself.
This has gone on too long now. I'll remove this thread in an hour or so, start a new one. Can't you guys just ignore each other?

A fronte praecipitium a tergo lupi

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RAAAY says on Apr 16, 2008, 06:58:

I can't understand how two people.............one in Bogota, at that,............can get into a shouting match over a thread about the Peso/Dollar..............


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.........Its useless to argue with ignorance

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Ctg Bound says on Apr 18, 2008, 10:58:

gringoloid ,

You wrote two words, then claimed I was threatening you, from those two words "getting me.............." then claiming I was threatening you.

THERE HAS BEEN NO EDITS of any threats, I only edit my posts just after posting them, you have been cutting and pasting parts of my posts, why didn't you cut and paste the so called threat, instead of just the two words?

That fact is that I actually stated that I would prefer you to stay in Bogota and not move to Medellin, for reasons I have already stated, so I am not sure how that fits in with threatening you.

The only person threatening was you, I wil cut and paste:

"it's not wrong that i call him on it.............."

The first time you threated me was April 13th, 2008 7:20: above, my post two days later was because you were avoiding this thread because you are gutless.

Also not sure how I am stalking you, you went loco on the thread I posted above for Desi to check above, you then start on this thread then you start on a third thread:

http://poorbuthappy.com/colombia/post/can-this-be-done/

I have already posted above that you are seeing things that are not there, from a simple responce to a statement I made where you go loco, to non existent threats, the list goes on, to now I am stalking you, I have already pointed out you lieing above, you are just lieing again.

No wonder I think you are nuts, as to give you my name address and phone number, who the hell would give that to a person who they think is nuts, YOU MUST BE PLANING ON STALKING ME?

I suspect that you left hoping this thread would be deleted, I have no problem this thread staying up and closed, but it should be left open like the other to show what sort of person you are.

Mind you I expect you will be in there deleting things.

As to meeting you, as I stated I HAVE ZERO problem, come prepared for a ass kicking, hopefully you will change your mind on moving to Medellin and stay in Bogota, but after you have moved here and found a suitable place for the fight send me a PM:

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Ctg Bound says on Apr 18, 2008, 11:05:

robi666,

I am afraid its nothing to do with his views on Peso/Dollar etc. mine are mostly differant to his, but I have ZERO problem with his views on them, in the thread below he lost it:

http://poorbuthappy.com/colombia/post/latin-american-nations-given-ale...

He then carried it on to this thread, plus has started in a third thread, the fact that I am now being accused of stalking him, although in ALL three thread he actually started things, should show what sort of person he is, when the argument goes against him, he makes threats and claims that I am not worth answering.

In this thread and the third thread he wasn't even mentioned in a post until he started on me.

Then he wants moderation, what a joke of a guy, more a joke of a wimp really.

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Ctg Bound says on Apr 20, 2008, 11:40:

Gringoloid,

As Desi, has given permission to chat of the main chat board, below is a list of Gringoloids lies, in no particular order, I await more lies or editing of your posts to cover them up:

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No.1 He claims that I edit his posts

as anyone can see, i did not type these keystrokes in this order between the quote signs:

I cut and paste his post out:

http://poorbuthappy.com/colombia/post/can-this-be-done/

Ctg Bound says on Friday April 18th, 2008 16:37: edit

gringoloid,

"Desi, ........he is stalking me,"

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No. 2 After he threteans me and I reply, he claims that I threatened him and have deleted the threats, yet he has been cutting and pasting my posts as he has been going along, surely he would have cut and pasted a threat to him straight away.

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No. 3 He claims that my information is to general, yet he placed in No. 5 in his table, how could he have placed me at No. 5 in the table if my post was to general.
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No. 4 He claims that my information is to general, yet when he asks a specific question like what dollar holdings do I have, I reply straight away and tell him none since 2002, although on further checking of posts I have missed out a question here and there, which I could have answered.
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No. 5 He claims that I am stalking him, yet on the two threads I am only responding to his outbursts, plus I have told him several times I hope he stays in Bogota and above all he has posted a question wanting to know my address and telephone number, not sure that this is a lie though, just VERY strange behaviour.
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No. 6 He doesn't mind name calling, he isn't sensative yet, he states the complete opposite, in another thread.
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No. 7 I send him the PM regarding threatening, plus the a copy to some other members, he claims not to have recieved anything.

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Nop. 8 & 9(maybe) He claims to be making predictions, I ask him what are they the only one I can find is where he is predicting a big US/World meltdown, hence why he put himself at No.1 on his econimic list, he then says that he isn't predicting a big recession, two potential lies here really where are his predictions?

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No. 10 He is has claimed several times, that I am falsely quoting him and putting words in my mouth, which I am not.
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No.11 He is cutting and pasting from me and altering what he pastes, or just making it up, the jist of my post in the threads is consistant, where his alterations only slightly match or don't match at all what I am saying.

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No. 12 which is related to No. 11, he then tries to make up a post about me getting him by quoting two words possibly from a post I made (although I can't find the two words) or he just made them up.

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9/11 Post that he ignored.

Ctg Bound comments on Colombia Peso Falls on Concern U.S. Slowdown to Hurt Exports

gringoloid,

You show the photo of one column, that you say looks cut, surely the best place to plant the explosives to bring down a building so it colapses on itself, which would take a long time to set up, is in the basement, at ground level there are offices and lots of people moving around, in the basement few people but maintance staff etc have acess, also there would be hard to see any evidence, so easy to cover it up.

As to the second tower falling first, surely the person who was blowing up the buildings, would have made sure that the first tower went down first.

As to the toshiba idea, now you are involving a large company from another Country. As to which floors were hit, there are no doubt 10,000s to 100,000s of photos and video recordings of the event floating around, anybody who bothered to get the plans of the building anaylise a number of the photos would be able to say with confidence which floors the planes hit.

That there has been nothing published regarding the trades on the stockmarket means nothing, as stated, the security services have no doubt arrested/killed a number of the people behind the trades or are tapping them for information, probably all three.

Above all else, surely the more loss of life the better for whatever reason you think the US goverment/security service set this plan up, so the best thing to do would be to blow the towers up at the base, allowing nobody to escape and choosing a better time say 11am, when more people are at their desks.

Why bother to kill a few thousand when you could kill 40,000 people.

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Ctg Bound says on Apr 27, 2008, 10:20:

In general gringoloid, you haven't answered your lies that I can see.

So lies they will remain, feel free to contribute on any economic thread or whatever I am posting on or others, I rarely see you on the economic threads giving your view though, which I find rather strange seeing you like talking about it so much.

The last photo doesn't mean anything, completly differant angle to the one you posted on the original thread.

As to many people talking about a 9/11 conspiracy on the web etc., fine, but that sums it up to me, you live in a stange world of your own design.

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