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* Please stop posting gossip about other posters

That's the stuff that has killed a lot of discussion groups, message boards and community forums.

We're trying to run a community forum here, Peter is working constantly to improve the forum, Tinto and myself are already putting in a lot of voluntary free time hours into this and I have just one plea to you all:

LETS TALK ABOUT COLOMBIA, NOT ABOUT EACH OTHERS!

PS. I deleted the thread about Scooby. It may well be that the accusations were not libel, but they certainly were malicious.

Cheers,
Desi

By Desideria (Moderator) on May 22, 2007, 11:59 in Friendly Talkzone. AddThis Social Bookmark Button


scooby_1781 says on May 22, 2007, 12:13:

VIVA Zapata Thanks Desi & for the peace of others, I will not post anythng negetive I made my point quite clear anyway.

"SEMPER FI"

Rubito says on May 22, 2007, 12:30:

If anybody wants to know more about Scooby Just hit my PM. But whatever you do don't trust a word he says. He has no personal integrity whatsoever.

---Violence is the price of freedom.---

---Violence is the price of freedom.---

aztec says on May 22, 2007, 12:40:

Who is Scooby? I haven't been paying much attention and have not followed any of this conversation.

esanch36 says on May 22, 2007, 12:49:

scooby du bi dooooooooooooo esanch36

The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries

panthdave says on May 22, 2007, 13:03:

Aztec You don't want to know Not worth it...Desi is Correct Like they say take the fight or argument outside..

Thanks Desi was getting out of hand...


panthdave Miami

panthdave Miami

scotty says on May 22, 2007, 17:08:

ha! funny sometimes this board just cracks me up, i cant help but get at least a couple of chuckles everytime i log in. Desi comes on and amnnounces that she did indeed delete some posts by scooby and she gave her reasond. Then she says there will be no more posts allowed that attack others with accusations and the discussions here should be about Colombia.
No sooner does she post that and here comes Rubito attacking Scooby saying that he cant be trusted and he has no integrity and if anyone wants the gossip on Scooby just PM Rubito. right?
Now my question is not to Rubito or Scooby but to Desi. Desi you just finished saying what Rubito did would not be allowed, yet his post is still on the board? What gives?
I bet if Rubito said that Scooby was FAT and had no integrity it would have been deleted, right?

Get Rhythm, when you got the blues. Johnny Cash

Brians says on May 22, 2007, 17:35:

I love this place. I am laughing at Desi and Tinto riping their hair out saying "Why the hell are we doing this?" I feel like a little kid n kindergarden. Sorry Desi and Tinto you guys don't deserve this crap. It was a fun day though:) You don't see this stuff over at CBlog that is why PBH is so fun.

scotty says on May 22, 2007, 17:49:

brian you are a FAT head, oops, i mean slightly enlarged a head.

Get Rhythm, when you got the blues. Johnny Cash

Brians says on May 22, 2007, 17:51:

I resemble that remark scotty thanks for the thought

pedro says on May 22, 2007, 18:46:

Oh damn Well I guess this puts paid to my gossip game idea, which I was just about to introduce onto PBH.

Example:

One* of the following rumours is true. The others are complete fabrication. Choose which is true:

a) Rubito sometimes wears women's underwear
b) Mikey Clavo's favourite TV show is "Power Rangers"
c) pow wow's wife went with their Argentinian gardener to look at evergreens, and returned six hours later smelling of rum and with her hair out of place.

;o)

¡save pow wow!

Miguel_Clavo says on May 22, 2007, 19:11:

no pouting allowed, pedo...=).....still cant sit can you? hahaha Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo =)..aka, DragonSlayer..2-0..Colombia es pasión!

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

Aaron21 says on May 22, 2007, 22:11:

Who cares? These two are obviously influenced by Chavez. Just be Venezuelans and shut the site down... complete idiocy...

Desideria (Moderator) says on May 22, 2007, 22:18:

I read sloppily something going_south posted and interpreted it as a personal attack for which I will have to apologise. I have straightened out the matter with him privately and I won't go into any details here, except that it was my mistake.

Cheers,
Desi

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe
they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." —Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

goin_south says on May 22, 2007, 23:00:

Now, what..... did I do?

Who is .. 'going_south'... anyway?
Oh; yes,...sooner or later, we all R. lol
muchas gracias, Desi.

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!

goin_south says on May 22, 2007, 23:04:

did you mean you were doing your best ...(or, worst?) Evelyn Woods impersonisation?

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!

Rubito says on May 23, 2007, 01:20:

Let me settle that rumor I want to say once and for all for the record that I don't wear women's underwear. In fact I don't wear any underwear at all, haven't since I was 17 years old and just decided one day that Mini-Me needed to be free.

Not to mention at 6'3" and 265lbs I doubt I could find a pair off of the rack that could fit me anyways. My gf actually wanted to put me in make up lingerie high heels and a nice dog collar and parade me down la 7a in Bogota but we trashed the idea due to the enormous tailor bill :P

---Violence is the price of freedom.---

---Violence is the price of freedom.---

cayita says on May 23, 2007, 06:13:

reminds me of a bunch of old ladies nit picking and back biting. This site needs an ignore button...

scotty says on May 23, 2007, 06:59:

hey desi, tinto or peter or anyone I noticed something interesting that happened earlier. CA with all her talk about guys going south and her high and mighty attitude asked me how big my manhood was. Can you tell me 1. what does that have to do with Colombia? 2. Wouldnt you consider that as sort of a undesirable question? A question that is if not personal then down rude?
I mean i wonder what you would do if the males on this board started asking the women how big their tits are or other such questions. how would you respond to that? Is there a double standard on this board?
Anyway i waited a while to see if you would delete her post but you didnt, so i answered her question with my favorite answer i told her my manhood was FAT.
you mods immediately removed my response to her question, you quickly took it off the main board, yet you left her question up on the board? can you explain that? is this part of your new program?

Get Rhythm, when you got the blues. Johnny Cash

jinksmiester says on May 23, 2007, 07:07:

Good point scotty
Good point scotty

A man is not old until regret takes the place of dreams

billyb says on May 23, 2007, 07:14:

The thing Scotty, is human nature... If certain mods agree idealogically or philosophically with certain posters, they will give those posters a lot more leeway when they stray from the norms of conduct desired on this site and tend to give posters that they disagree with, like yourself, a shortleash, while still thinking that they are being evenhanded.

cayita says on May 23, 2007, 07:36:

Censorship Mr. Tinto....... These moderators from what I have been able to ascertain are not professional moderators. They don't even delete on the basis of the rules posted on this site. It comes down to censorship and the real danger of censorship is that PEOPLE are used to do the censoring. PEOPLE are full of opinion, bias and prejudices. So what you have is favoritism for one type of post over another type of post or over one person than another.
It is just human nature. Either they should stick to the rules absolutely or they should not censor anything. The middle ground in censorship is not censorship at all but is discrimination and favoritism.
The above explanation is pathetic by Mr. Tinto. The very first time someone attacks or insults some other person they should be deleted. Not their post but their account. This should not be tolerated at all not one time. Now then everyone will know the rules and will follow them or they won't be here.
When someone may attack me I will not respond. I will wait for you moderator to take action on this person. If you do not I will ignore it. If then I am inundated by posts attacking me the way I have seen happen on here then I am going to respond. Then it is a free for all.
MODERATORS either have a zero tolerance for people who attack someone personally by deleting their account or keep your fingers off the delete key. Anything else is you exercising a power that is corrupting the fairness of this board.
Oh and by the way if you can't handle my expressing my opinion on this site then close it down. It is an open forum; you invented it and are making money from it. And you’re little attack dogs too... on here that in a very short time of posting I can see you allow to do your dirty work.

webmanco says on May 23, 2007, 07:47:

Keep up the good job moderators.

But, I'm going to start making some assumptions here.... Which means I might actually end up making an ass out of myself ..........Thu 04 17, 2008 11:34 am

CaritadeAngel says on May 23, 2007, 09:29:

Hi Tinto
Have you considered why so few women post here? You have to be really tough to do it. Personally, I like to debate - sensibly - and I think the motivations and activities of foreigners in Colombia is ripe for healthy discussion.

Instead of debate, what happens is, more often than not, anyone who says "hay dude, wait a minute, thats not right": gets accused and name called. Personally, I don't take that kind of thing lying down. I am capable of holding my own. Notice how much that pissed them off. Notice also that I was also fending off a "multiple attack". Think about it. You have to work harder to do that.

Now what happens - most women would stay off the site. Desi has already commented on the very few female posters.

Now I know a lot of it is just kicking a ball around. Women don't like that kind of thing, in general - I do. But some of the posters here can get deeply nasty, and personal, really quickly. Specifically the attacks they make - much of the time - are gender orientated (this is not Pod and Rubito BTW.)

I'm ready to apologise if that has been me, or if I have allowed some of the nastier stuff - comments about wieght, about the "inferiority" of western women, accusations of jelousy, bitterness, racism or sexism, etc - get under my skin. Could it be that the reason why true love has eluded them in the past is because they are abusive bullies, so they come here to Colombia, where they can abuse and bully with greater ease? And when they try to bully me, well, thats not really possible.

I do always try to reason, even with bullies, who actually don't deserve to be reasoned with. My hope is that one day they will think about the long term consequences of their actions.

As Oscar Wilde says, ordinary evil is not the perverse forms of egoism that you see in personalities such as Stalin or Hitler. Ordinary evil is simply stupidity. And I would add, of course, that what stupidity really is is the inability to reason about the long term consequences of your decision-making. Who hasn't been young and dumb, especially with regards to their romantic life at some point? Certainly not I.

What disturbs me though, is the sense of entitlement some of the male posters have, and their vitrolic resentment if anyone actually calls them on their activities, or their intentions: but we're only having fun, they whine, and you are spoiling it. Well, yeah, if your "fun" causes evil things to happen, then I will spoil it. So bite me. And I would spoil it if I were a man.

So the question is really, whats this place all about?

Is it a forum about Colombia - I have mentioned Colombia, and other developing countries in every single one of my posts - or is it about my (or anyone elses) weight? Is it about my (or anyone elses ) political ideology? Is is about how to play Colombian women? Is it about where the best players spots (or whorehouses )are? Is it about why men from industrialised western countries don't like women from industrialised western countries?

Cos if it is, I'm gonna join Don Gringo on his permenant holiday.

"Nolite id cogere, cape malleum majorem."

"I hope I never say anything worth quoting".

CaritadeAngel says on May 23, 2007, 09:47:

And Scotty, about your manhood...
It's called irony ... you asked me if I was fat, I asked you how big your manhood was. Fair is fair: you ask me about my body, and I ask you about yours.

Irony is an intellectual device that I sometimes employ to show you the error of your ways. I am sure you are not interested in how big my tits are, or how much I weigh. I think though, you are interested in abusing and bullying people -especially women - off this site.

Trust me, I am not really interested in how big your manhood is. I am interested in helping you develop something called EMPATHY. You'll be a better man for it.

Scotty, your just pissed cos I give as good as I get, when I'm supposed to run and hide like a good little girl (and was supposed to do it from the very first day you said something nasty about me, which I believe, was the very first day I posted here).

You seem to have missed the point. Ah well. Better luck next time.

"Nolite id cogere, cape malleum majorem."

"I hope I never say anything worth quoting".

esanch36 says on May 23, 2007, 10:23:

CA= DG esanch36

The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries

Miguel_Clavo says on May 23, 2007, 10:30:

esanch ...that is funny, but CA is much more intelligent and articulate than DG, may he/she RIP....and paranoia doesnt seem to be in the DNA of CA, like our late, beloved paranoid....=)


Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo =)..aka, DragonSlayer..2-0..Colombia es pasión!

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

scotty says on May 23, 2007, 10:59:

CA there you go again you just cant leave well enough alone can you? you spend two days nagging 4 or 5 guys to death and you wind up all your very long winded posts by asking me on a live forum about my manhood and you get away with it. Tinto gives us a little pep talk asking us to get it under control and whats the first thing you do after hhis pep talk, you come right back with more crapola...give it a rest already. By the way i never told you you were fat, I dont know you i dont know anything about you, maybe you're fat maybe you're not i dont really care either way. Nor did i ask you is you were fat,again i dont really care, nobody cares. I wasnt even the one who started the fat thing, but i am the one that took it and ran with it and made a joke out of it. If you recall it is YOU that asked me if i was FAT, then you followed by asking my about my manhood...remember? get you stories straight!

Get Rhythm, when you got the blues. Johnny Cash

pedro says on May 23, 2007, 11:03:

No, CdA is fool's gold. She doesn't listen, just lectures. The really intelligent people on here tread a lot softer than her. When they appear on the forum (they come and go), you won't find them immediately blustering "LOOK HOW INTELLIGENT I AM!".

Much is made of how there are few female posters on the forum. And that people say PBH is spiteful, and this is because there are no females. But when CdA appears, a female and full of spite and flinging insults, well, she is made welcome and people say "we need more like you".

Would it be possible to look beyond gender lines for a minute and value people who are civil? Male or female. I don't happen to like or agree with CdA, Gringoloid, or Scotty. It seems kinda lame to chime in "you go girl" when CdA starts indiscriminately insulting and haranguing people. If you look back you will see she began this unprovoked, cf her initial misguided attack on Proud Canadian's trip write up. Fair enough, sex tourism is an issue that pushes her buttons, we all have those particular things which spark us. But then those same people congratulting her turn around and complain that the forum is getting nasty and we need more females.

¡save pow wow!

Wastelandlive says on May 23, 2007, 11:04:

Geeze... This is kind of funny...

But trying to follow all this, I can't help but sympathize with the mods. Would YOU guys want to have to wade through this crap everyday playing home room monitor?

What's most amusing is that you guys haven't yet figured out that Carita de Angel is Sr. Tertious yet. And she's nowhere near Barranquilla. I doubt she ever has been.

Apparently she got bored preaching left-wing tripe in the political section, and decided it was time to come over and preach the gospel of the ivory tower to all the mongers hanging out in the Friendly Fire Zone.

And she did it with panache! You guys have been the play things of a second rate graduate student from a third rate university.

You've been had. Big time.

By the way... Rubito? 6'3" and 265 lbs.? Are you for real?!

Wasteland

Miguel_Clavo says on May 23, 2007, 11:10:

I agree W, Rubito should give up music, and join the WWF where the real money is and he wont have to ride his bike!

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo =)..aka, DragonSlayer..2-0..Colombia es pasión!

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

Miguel_Clavo says on May 23, 2007, 11:17:

Tinto....there is two #2's in your list..... Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo =)..aka, DragonSlayer..2-0..Colombia es pasión!

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

CaritadeAngel says on May 23, 2007, 11:57:

Scotty and Pedro
Oh never mind.

Before fools, even the gods are silent.

Pedro:

Creating a thread for sex tourists to compare notes (against forum rules), and then calling an objection and unprovoked attack, and then subjecting the objector to attacks on a highly personalised basis, and then complaining when she defends her self, and her position, is not the path of logic or reason.

If you and your pals had stopped - for a single second, misquoting and misrepresenting me, the discussion could have moved on. Now y'all have injured pride.

"I hope I never say anything worth quoting".

Tinto (Moderator) says on May 23, 2007, 12:08:

Thanks. .

Miguel_Clavo says on May 23, 2007, 12:11:

the motive was selfish....i want to be able to refer or invite people to Rule #3....jajajajjaja

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo =)..aka, DragonSlayer..2-0..Colombia es pasión!

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

CaritadeAngel says on May 23, 2007, 12:19:

WasteandLive The NGO I work for in Barranquilla (for more information, please PM me,) is a politically neutral organisation. So when you make these stupid inane comments about my political orientation (which I have explained else where are independent, not leftist), and which I NEVER post about here), you place me, and them, at risk. So kindly stop.

I do not post here under multiple names. That is an unethical practice which is used occasionally by those who would abuse and bully. I do asure you that I am who I say I am, and that I do not lie on or off line, and that, if you knew me in person, you would find me pretty much the same. Unable to suffer fools gladly.

You might do well to meditated on the phrase

"En voca cerrada, no entrada moscas".

"I hope I never say anything worth quoting".

Wastelandlive says on May 23, 2007, 12:33:

Spare me Carita... Seriously.

Too many layers of BS.

Oh... and you might do well to meditate on this phrase:

"Quoting Dante, Latin, or even Spanish doesn't make you any smarter: it just makes you an idiot who quotes Dante, Latin and Spanish."

(Honest Tinto. That's a real phrase. I found it on Wikipedia!)

P.S. It's "entran" moscas: present tense third person plural. You're welcome.

Wasteland

CaritadeAngel says on May 23, 2007, 13:42:

Thanks for the tip Waste Always looking to improve my Spanish, I am learning.

As long as you stay away from the subject of politics with me, I don't give a rodent's bum what name you think I post under.

"Don't force it. Get a big hammer" is the translation of my signature.

"I hope I never say anything worth quoting".

Aaron21 says on May 23, 2007, 20:53:

And the signature is nonsense, like the rest of your drivel. Your are not leftist? You sure seem to spout the leftist, confusing, nonsensical, foolishness of Evo Morales et. al. (oh that is Latin used correctly). Calm down.

CaritadeAngel says on May 23, 2007, 21:13:

Hi Aaron, a quick definition of terms? Just because I think sex tourism is wrong, that doesn't make me a leftist. So if you think its ok to use developing countries as your sexual playground, does that make you a rightist?

A leftist, in the most general terms, is someone who ascribes to the economic theory of a state-planned economy. They generally hate people like me, who question their theories at every opportunity.

A rightist is in the most general terms, someone who believes that the economy should be decided by market forces alone. They generally hate people like me, who question their theories at every opportunity.

A dialectical materialist is a leftist who doesn't believe in God. Most leftist ascribe to dialectical materialism, and hate anyone with a spiritual view on life. They generally hate people like me who believe in things, beings or entities beyond the material world.

A militant feminist (aka feminazi) is a woman who believes that women should dominate or rule over men. She generally hates women like me, who believe that women have special and unique roles in marriages and families, and that men are ok, abortion should not be on demand, etc etc.

An independent thinker is someone like me, who refuses to be pinned down to a lable. And I do assure you Andrew, that real leftists, and real feminists, really really hate my guts. Perhaps even more than the sex tourists who post here.

Now, can you define "sex tourist" for me?

Or how about "ignoramus"?

"The Left is Blind. The Right is Deaf."

"I hope I never say anything worth quoting".

goin_south says on May 23, 2007, 21:30:

I think you guys all been jerkin off with the wrong hand. right,...or, left.

Yeah, CA. I am a sex tourist. In about ... a few more weeks, I'm going to Bogota and I'm gonna hide in a room with my novia and indulge myself/herself for about 23 hours a day and take an hour off for other room service and sleep. F*Q Bogota, if you think I'm going there to see the gold museo. Later, dude.

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!

goin_south says on May 23, 2007, 21:34:

You guys/gals all been virtually massagin one another's prostates real well here, the last few days, haven't ya?

Damn; glad I'm a member of the night crew.
Donde es Colombia_Mike_de_Valledupar?
Did he get stuck?

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!

Aaron21 says on May 23, 2007, 21:36:

Did I mention sex tourism? No, I said you are a leftist. Leftists generally use alarmist tactics which are wrapped in nonsense and contrived to convince simpletons that they should follow. This sums up your arguments and your signature. When posters here point out that you have no idea what you are talking about you create an emotional response that has nothing to do with the original argument. You are a typical leftist who wishes to rule with emotion instead of logic. If you do not understand, accuse me of some other nonsense.

goin_south says on May 23, 2007, 21:37:

Meanwhile, I take a mini-vacation and____ get hammered by a mod, and didn't even get to enjoy it! lol
(didn't get to read any of those posts, threatening to banish me from the Kingdom of PBsH Forevermore!)

I guess/think momentarily, I was on par with Col_Mike. Caramba! :)

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!

CaritadeAngel says on May 23, 2007, 22:00:

No, but I mentioned Sex Tourism Aaron In every single post. Patiently keeping the discussion on point when all around me were to busy name calling to answer my points. They got emotional. What can I say?

Emotion? Of course. You can always accuse a chick of being emotional, right? Saves you having to respond with any kind of measured intelligence. Typical of a bully you made an accusation "emotional" "leftist" without any evidence.

I am not the one who posted an anti-feminist tirade (against a woman who was not a feminist) like Gringloid, or an antileftist tirade against someone who is not a leftist ( not that you show the slightest understanding of the ordinary meanings of the term "leftist").

So Mr Logic HOW am I a leftist? HOW am I illogical. Start backing up what you say or take it back.

In what way have I demonstrated my adherence to the philosophies of Marix, Engles, Lenin et al ? I might call you a leftist - your tactics of being as unreasonable as possible so that decent people leave are certainly very bolshevik in style.

Because, after consistantly slinging labels around, but of course, because those men were being emotional, and illogical, and abusive, they were still unable to offer:

(1) A shred of justification for using Colombia as their sexual playground, (my consistant objection)

(2) A shred of evidence that I was either a feminist, or a leftist. Rubito has made a truce, and Pod has accepted that I am not a feminist or a leftist, because he reads books, Aaron, whereas you do not.

They were upset, of course, that I called them sex tourists. And quite emotional about it. So all of them, and all at once, when on the attack.

So if I am the one being emotional here, why is it you that's slinging labels around with no real clue about what they mean?

Answer that?

No. You can't do that. You are too emotional.

"I hope I never say anything worth quoting".

Aaron21 says on May 23, 2007, 22:08:

Well, I will avoid your superficial errors in your post and address the assertions. I mentioned nothing about sex, feminism, or that your are emotional. I simply said you base your arguments in emotion and not logic. And, of course, you did it again. This post is as unemotional and logical as my last post. For the last time, calm down.

CaritadeAngel says on May 23, 2007, 22:23:

And for the last time back up what you say.

You said I was a leftist. You can't prove that so now you shift ground.

Words mean things. Or did you rewrite the dictionary?

In what way have I failed in my logic?
Truly Aaron, I fail to see it.
And you have failed to demonstrate it.

"Nolite id cogere, cape malleum majorem."

"I hope I never say anything worth quoting".

elreydelostrolls says on May 23, 2007, 22:25:

Other than you and Aaron, no one gives a rat's ass.

goin_south says on May 23, 2007, 22:26:

I think he meant, because he sees you as jerkin- off with the 'wrong' hand.

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!

Aaron21 says on May 23, 2007, 22:27:

Hmmm... my point is your arguments are emotional, not logical. This holds true for all leftists. I cannot say it more clearly for you. If you do not understand then this is a lost cause. Thank you for your time.

CaritadeAngel says on May 23, 2007, 23:31:

Sorry Going-South I'm outa here. Only so many bitch-slaps a ho can take.

"Nolite id cogere, cape malleum majorem."

"I hope I never say anything worth quoting".

Rubito says on May 24, 2007, 01:06:

If she was a troll She was a damn good one. Tertius seems like a well read guy but I don't see him quoting Shakespeare like that. Not to mention CA doesn't sound AT ALL Colombian, nor is the mindset she espouses AT ALL Colombian.

---Violence is the price of freedom.---

---Violence is the price of freedom.---

kat1 (Moderator) says on May 24, 2007, 01:16:

She never said she was Colombian, and if you all read her post very well she said many many times she was Scottish and is living in Barranquilla.

goin_south says on May 24, 2007, 01:30:

Kat1, do you also wear crocs? That's what that is: A Croc

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!

Rubito says on May 24, 2007, 01:31:

That's what I'm saying I really SEVERELY doubt a Colombian could invent a character like her, even one who had lived up here for long periods of time. And it would be VERY difficult for a native Spanish speaker to write in Spanish but with obvious English-native structures seeping in like that!

---Violence is the price of freedom.---

---Violence is the price of freedom.---

kat1 (Moderator) says on May 24, 2007, 01:40:

Oh sorry Rubito, but yes i agree she is not Colombian nor native Spanish Speaker.



going south, i put a note for you in the thread kudos to the mods.

Miguel says on May 24, 2007, 01:40:

Like kat1 said Carita mentioned several times she was Scottish and her written Spanish confirms she's not a native Spanish speaker.

Buongone says on May 24, 2007, 02:52:

Anyone want to Bet? A certain person says their out of here! Then down a few posts, they pop up again. Said it many times. Keeps coming back for more. Ranting & Raving. Should let it rest. Get over it. They'll be back. Full of Piss and Vinegar. Wait & See. Like I said the other day. It's none of their business what someone else likes to do. Who made that person in charge of Colombian Tourism? Horny Gringo's bring Colombia lots of Money!

Aaron21 says on May 24, 2007, 22:42:

She left (or is taking a break) - interesting... It is very hard for me to believe that she is an attorney or Scottish. Her constant grammatical errors, misspellings, and lack of logical argument lead me to believe she is definitely American and probably from the midwest. She probably did not start being attentive in school until college. For some reason (of which I will not discuss here for fear of being censored) she developed a distrust of men and an inferiority complex. In college she learned that many people in the world are just like her, but she did not learn how to properly deal with her rage and feelings of inadequacy. She has no outlet in life, so she comes to the internet to vent her rage and attempt to display some of the facts she learned in that midwestern college. Of course she is just now learning that this college taught her nothing but trivia.

Moreover, she is still looking for emotional support that she is not receiving in her solitary life. She receives the support here because - well, I do not want to be censored again, so please develop the idea autonomously. She will return soon, of course, because she cannot help but counteract her self-hate by nonsensically attacking some other unsuspecting poster. Oh, and yes KUDOS to the censors for they allow her to thrive sans a total breakdown.

Miguel_Clavo says on May 24, 2007, 23:44:

Poor Aaron12......whats a matter, still cant sit down? hemorroids still inflamed by that bitchslapping she gave you?? poor baby, i will send you an extra fluffy pillow so you can sit on it and type........and not feel so much discomfort.......=)

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo =)..aka, DragonSlayer..2-0..Colombia es pasión!

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

Aaron21 says on May 25, 2007, 00:01:

Hmmm... Another simple comment by the simpleton. Carry on Mike.

goin_south says on May 25, 2007, 00:19:

Like _ONE_ said.... OMG.

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!

Man Tequila says on May 25, 2007, 04:31:

Caritade's use of slang is very Scottish. Obsessive folks always return to blog another day.

pues se me antoja que sus cantares son de una tierra desconocida, y yo le dije si a usted le inspira, saber la tierra de donde soy... con mucho gusto y a mucho honor...

billyb says on May 25, 2007, 06:45:

I want to thank Going_South for being... the proverbial bitchslap-straw that broke the camels back!

goin_south says on May 25, 2007, 08:42:

stronger camels.... We need, then.
(and, a few folk with a greater appreciation for 'Fine Art'...jajaja)

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!

Miguel_Clavo says on May 25, 2007, 10:34:

A21...you need more PrepH, chica....=) you are brilliant! but still in all reality, a nothing......nada......=)..Oh, and that "L" tatoo on your forehead? Laser technology can remove that....=P

btw, girlies, CA is reuppin her ammo,,,,,dont be caught with your pants down waiting for another bslappin.....jjajaaajaja,,,....


Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo =)..aka, DragonSlayer..2-0..Colombia es pasión!

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

CaritadeAngel says on May 25, 2007, 11:37:

One hump or two? I am dyslexic. Which means I keep company with Churchill and Einstein. What company does Aaron keep, I wonder? Unfortunately, the presence of trolls and sex tourists on this planet is because there are more morons who can spell, than there are compassionate, dyslexic, lovers of truth and justice who can't.

Loneliness is the state of being unable to connect with any other human being. A solitary life is a life lived alone without the company of others. Neither is true in my case, but I do wonder about poor old Aaron, El Rey, UTC, JhonnyChucha, etc etc. maybe that's why he needs so many simultaneous incarnations on PBH: to give his multiple personalities some air. Well, at least they have each other. My, there are a lot of lonely auld coots here, engaging in trolling online, and sex tourism in Colombia off-line.

The marines in Korea taught me how to talk American. Thus the word "bitch-slap" and “motherf****r� - how often I have thought of that latter word in the last few days - was absorbed into my vocabulary, along with their ... creative .... grammar. Scottish men think only “poofs n' bampots� hit lassies. It says much about the difference between our respective cultures that it happens so frequently in North America that you actually have a term for it. I lapse into American vocabulary and construction when talking to discerning gentlemen such as Aaron since he is unlikely to understand Scots, or even English. It's a pity really, since Scots is a language where, even if he doesn't understand it, a chap knows when he's being insulted.

Let me try:

His Erse-Holiness is talkin' shite, in a wee tin can. Whitta bampot!

Ahhhhhhhh! I feel the force returning! But, since Aaron/UTC/Rey/Jhonny is obviously a man of education beneath his troll disguise, I shall indeed, quote Bill the Quill:

In sooth, thy dank cavernous tooth-hole consumes all truth and reason!

Carita.

“It's a common misconception that black men are bigger than latin men, and latin men are bigger than white men. This is untrue; a shameful prejudice. A****holes, however, are the same everywhere.�

"I hope I never say anything worth quoting".

Lostgringo says on May 25, 2007, 12:05:

Gossip, slander, personal attacks...fuck this and fuck that

Isn't that what they like here? Hasn't that always been the way? Why change now?? And the long term members who have always been trolls? This is nothing new! New members come here and do what older members do and get kicked off the site. The older member just continue to troll, insult and attack people. Granted there are many members here who have something to share and they do, but there are many who have usefull input except to attack posts and tell others to fuck off. Make of this as you will. Nothing will really change here until you get rid of the dead wood.

Your Home Away from Home:http://www.welovebogota.com http://www.apartmentinbogota.com "Luxury apartment and rooms Cheap" Only 2 blocks from the American Embassy!

Miguel_Clavo says on May 25, 2007, 12:09:

Think of the good times, UTC! Once a well respected, useful, and quite helpful visa/immigration expert here on PBH.....and Now: displaying the initial signs of an onset of ThermoNuclear Meltdown Syndrome, which is posting "virtual diarrhea" under the cowardly mask of multiple screen names.....without proper mental health therapy, you and DG might get a multiple patient discount in a rehab facility, sharing the same room, too........Can you say "Br at keback M at untain", little c at wp at key??...enjoy.....=)

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo =)..aka, DragonSlayer..2-0..Colombia es pasión!

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

elreydelostrolls says on May 25, 2007, 17:49:

God I love it. No wonder I enjoy this site so much. You dumb asses take this stuff way too seriously. I can imagine you sitting at the keyboard in your underwear eating doritos babbling in some imagined battle with your internet "enemies". You remind me of Elmer Fudd.

podborski says on May 25, 2007, 18:15:

damn that was too close to home I just finished a bag of Doritos too. seriously.

billyb says on May 25, 2007, 18:57:

Pod, as long as you're not in your underwear... you should be OK, per ElRey....

goin_south says on May 25, 2007, 19:05:

...Estoy..........con contemplacciones: cambiar mi nombre Dos_Bolsas_Doritos_Rancheros_Charlandos

lol...Voy por del Sur

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!

goin_south says on May 25, 2007, 19:07:

I no it will piss some off, though,.... so I'm gonna shorten it to: DBD_RC ;)

Voy por del Sur

why can't the freakin Chung King Chinese just LEAVE THE FREAKN DOLLY LLAMA and Tibet ... ALONE!

billyb says on May 25, 2007, 19:25:

Voy por EL sur?? ....

scotty says on May 29, 2007, 05:18:

CA is an american man living in Bogota.

Get Rhythm, when you got the blues. Johnny Cash

CaritadeAngel says on May 29, 2007, 08:07:

Scotty Moonlights as a stripper.
He goes by the name of Brenda now.

Stop posting gossip Scotty.

He that knows better how to tame a shrew,
Now let him speak; 'tis charity to shew."

"I hope I never say anything worth quoting".

medefockinllin says on May 29, 2007, 11:55:

Seems like Aaron is a zionist Just look at the tone of his e-mails. Straight out of the FOX News school of blogging.

Wastelandlive says on May 29, 2007, 13:32:

And the perspicacity award goes to... Jejejejeje...

Don't mind the crowd, Aaron. They're good guys, but they're not analysts... and "Carita" has a certain pedestrian cleverness about her that fools the trusting.

You were close, by the way: not midweast. Northeast.

She's about as Scottish as my buddy Mumin Senturk. And her experience in Colombia?

Well, be forewarned: when you try to confirm it, you'll get a lecture on operational security. You have NO IDEA how dangerous it can really be for anybody named "Carita de Angel" to be called a leftist on PbH. The AUC boys visit this site regularly, and they've been known to scour the streets of Barranquilla looking for broke-dick self righteous crunchy granola chicks out to tell the world how it REALLY is...

That's believable to those who's understanding of Colombia derives from Narconews and ANCOL.

Tooo f'ng funny...

Wasteland

podborski says on May 29, 2007, 17:00:

ooohhh this is getting good!

But not quite as good as the 'Entourage' season 1 DVD I just rented, so I'll check in later.

CaritadeAngel says on May 29, 2007, 17:26:

Waste, waste, Yeah, right, Sherlock, whatever. Yawn.

He that knows better how to tame a shrew,
Now let him speak; 'tis charity to shew."

"I hope I never say anything worth quoting".

Aaron21 says on May 29, 2007, 18:25:

Sr. Waste, If you are correct, that she is from the Northeast, then she probably did not even finish college. She claims dyslexia as her fault in writing "seperate" (separate), "consistant" (consistent), and "looser" (loser). These are all common misspellings of North American rednecks. In the Northeast these unfortunate souls barely graduate grade school and then go to work in their family's business. She probably rebelled against her father (maybe that is where the distrust in men started) and later earned her GED. She then attended some city college and bonded with all the mentally injured people in attendance before dropping out a couple years later. The rest of the story I have explained. Gracias a Ud. por su tiempo.

I am not going to read again the tonterias about me being this UTC person. No es importante if you believe me or not, but I am not him. I am me - the one and only.

I almost forgot - hahahah, Mede - Fox News is zionist??? CNN is zionist, and my name is biblical, but I am not Jewish. Fox News may be characterized as conservative, I suppose, but certainly not zionist!!!!!! In the future, if you are going to pull at the fascist heartstrings, at least be accurate!

medefockinllin says on May 29, 2007, 19:06:

Fox News is NOT ZIONIST!!!!! You make me laugh... I am in no way anti-semitic, and not all jews are zionist and believe in a zionist agenda. I must correct you Aaron on a couple of things. I am in no way a fascist either...in fact I consider myself to be quite left of centre.

Fox News conservative and not zionist!!! That's like saying Hitler was not a Nazi but was just a little strict on following his philosophies on the human race....PLEASE!!

Fox News Channel has been a key outlet pushing the Jewish neoconservative agenda that lies behind the Iraq War and which animates both the administration of George W. Bush and the "new conservatism" that embraces aggressive Zionism and multiracialism.

Murdoch is nominally a Gentile, but there is some uncertainty about his ancestry and he has vigorously supported Zionism and other Jewish causes throughout his life. Murdoch's number two executive is Peter Chernin, who is president and chief operating officer—and a Jew.
Under Chernin, Jews hold key positions in the company: Gail Berman runs Fox Entertainment Group; Mitchell Stern heads satellite television division DirecTV; Jane Friedman is chairman and CEO of Harper Collins; and Thomas Rothman is chairman of Fox Filmed Entertainment. News Corporation also owns the New York Post and TV Guide, and both are published under Chernin's supervision.

Have I been accurate enough for you my friend?

CaritadeAngel says on May 29, 2007, 19:44:

But at least I know what Dyslexic means, Sir Troll Spell to Summon a Troll. Summon Troll by Chanting Spell. Keep Him Talking Till Dawn. When Sunlight Hits the Horizon, Sit Back and Watch Him Turn To Stone).

He's the bully in your workplace
But lives under that bridge
Talk long with him and you'll want to
Jump from the nearest ridge
And you can always call him to you
A little spell to chant
Ya bas, ya bam, ya bamus, ya batus, ya bant!

Oh he thinks he's such a man, he does
Lurking in his lair
When he was a kid he grassed you in
And burned that lassies hair
When he wasn't skinning cats alive
He was busy frying ants
Ya bas, ya bam, ya bamus ya batus ya bant!

Now the bully in the playground
Grew up to be a man
He torments his wife and children
And hits the road in in that white van
Then on the net he trolls around
Good reason to supplant
Ya bas, ya bam, ya bamus ya batus ya bant!

He'll deftly finds your sore points
And deftly pull your wires
He has his targets dancing
Until they sicken and they tire
And then he stampedes over them
Like a rutting elephant
Ya bas, ya bam, ya bamus ya batus ya bant!

None know where he comes form
And none know where he dwells
But may his cowardly cyber-arse
Burn in a million cyber-hells
His Hyde is a mobster's hired goon,
His Jeckle a sychophant
Ya bas, ya bam, ya bamus ya batus ya bant!

"I hope I never say anything worth quoting".

Aaron21 says on May 29, 2007, 19:46:

Yes Mede, you have been disgustingly accurate. Who cares if Fox, CNN, MSNBC, the former RCTV (in Venezuela), or any other entertainment entity is run by Jews? Most entertainment companies in the Western Hemisphere are run by Jews. I did not say you are fascist, but that you pull at their heartstrings - like all leftists and rightists (for lack of a better term) do. The thing you must remember is the farther left you go, you will eventually meet the right - and you may almost be there.

Umm, Carita,
Huh?

billyb says on May 29, 2007, 19:49:

Gee Mede, for not being anti-semetic... you sure went to a lot of trouble to find out who is jewish and who's not.

podborski says on May 29, 2007, 20:03:

jajaja! exactly billyb 'I'm no conspiracy theorist, but did you know those photos of the moon landing don't have any shadows?'

medefockinllin says on May 29, 2007, 20:03:

BillyB - I did it to prove a point, not to be anti-semetic I was accused of lacking facts by Aaron21, who is misinformed. Don't tell me...are you now going to make a film about me persecuting the jewish race? Fox News is a corrupt news channel with zionism at its core. I would go the same lengths against any other media outlet that has this type of bias at its core - whether it be muslim, bible-bashing, special interest, pro gay, anti-gay, etc....

Is someone who exposes corporate connections of politicians also an evil fascist...or is this label solely reserved for those who dare write the j word?

BillyB - I have many jewish friends...and most of them are fed up with people like you who always want to play the victim card on behalf of the entire faith.

Question - am I going to be censored or silenced now? Are the moderators going to do a Fox News on me? We can criticize Colombia until our hearts content..calling people corrupt, lazy, and implying that 99% of colombianas are putas....but God help us if we criticize Uncle Sam or Rupert Murdoch.

Aaron21 says on May 29, 2007, 20:06:

Ummm Mede, What?

podborski says on May 29, 2007, 20:09:

Rupert Murdoch, rich and successful, capitalist Robert Maxwell, con man and socialist, kills himself.

Score one point for the good guys.

CaritadeAngel says on May 29, 2007, 20:10:

Aaron (and whoever else you are) Ask Lochdhu (or possibly Kalder) what "Ya bas" and "Ya Bam" mean in Scots if you can't figure it out from first principles. Oh, thats right. I'm supposed to be from Arsehole, Arizona, right. Silly me.

Still, it worked. Out you came.

He that knows better how to tame a shrew,
Now let him speak; 'tis charity to shew."

"I hope I never say anything worth quoting".

Aaron21 says on May 29, 2007, 20:21:

Hmm, you are also apparently date and time challenged. I responded to Sr. Waste and then Mede's assinine post. I can not care less to what "Ya bas" and "Ya Bam" refer. I did not even recognize these phrases(?) as meaningful. I simply wanted to know the crux of your nonsense. Oh by the way, donde esta su secuace Mike Clavo? Estoy seguro que he has some foolishness to add.

Miguel_Clavo says on May 29, 2007, 20:30:

Right hereeeeeeeeee biachhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh need medicine for that oral diarrhea??? ih, wait, you keep putting your foot, which is attached to your PeeWee, in your mouth......wassssupppp, g-boy aaronnnnnnnnnnnnnnn????

i am happy though, that you keep me in your mind......jajajjaa

Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo =)..aka, DragonSlayer..2-0..Colombia es pasión!

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

Miguel_Clavo says on May 29, 2007, 20:32:

i am ready for round two.....and you? Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo =)..aka, DragonSlayer..2-0..Colombia es pasión!

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

billyb says on May 29, 2007, 20:42:

Whoa Mede, take a couple of deep breaths... and don't take yourself too seriously, why would anybody waste their time censoring you? BTW, I'm not jewish, but at the same time don't care for anti-semetism. Maybe you could post your nonsense on the Al-Jazzeera website.

medefockinllin says on May 29, 2007, 20:45:

What was your last point Aaron21? Or are you just providing me with that great solve-all defeatist American response of "whatever..."?

Miguel_Clavo says on May 29, 2007, 20:57:

Mrs. Aarronnnn21......can Aaron21 come out and playyyyyy???? Oh, he is not potty trained yet and shit comes out both ends??? sorry to hear that...kinda gross, though....well, just tell him when he grows a set might be able to play with the big boyzzzzzzzzzzzzz.....XOXOXOXOX


Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo =)..aka, DragonSlayer..2-0..Colombia es pasión!

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

Aaron21 says on May 29, 2007, 21:02:

The point is that the particular religion of some entertainment company's hierarchy is irrelevant. The relevancy of that entertainment company lies in its constituents and its detractors. Since I am neither a constituent of, nor a detractor of, and I do not follow Fox, CNN, or any other train of thinking - please do not lump me in with them. Hopefully this is clear enough for you. If not then keep posting.

Aaron21 says on May 29, 2007, 21:04:

Clavo, I see you are possibly still a beat cop in Nueva York. Care to divulge the precinct and tour? Perhaps we could have a chat in person.

Miguel_Clavo says on May 29, 2007, 21:07:

wow...you cant read either......can you hear it, Aaronnnn? Macho Macho Man is playing just for you ...your theme music everywhere you gooooo .......you a Internet SuperHero, too..? you are out of your league, putz.......go back to mamaaaaaaaa....you probably got beat up by the girls in your school, IF you even went to one.....XOXOXOXOX



Just my opinion...

Miguel_Clavo =)..aka, DragonSlayer..2-0..Colombia es pasión!

"I would rather die living life, than to live a dying life."........ Oh, and my PM is always ON. Great Bumper Sticker: "Home of the Free, Because of the Brave"

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